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xytar with a Z
05:50 / 26.02.06
If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your shit,
then YOU DESERVE IT.

thoughts, rants and ummm, words of Frank Zappa
 
 
xytar with a Z
05:52 / 26.02.06
http://www.science.uva.nl/~robbert/zappa/quote/phrases
 
 
xytar with a Z
05:54 / 26.02.06
The last election just laid the foundation of the next 500
years of Dark Ages

--
From 1981

Let's not be too tough on our own ignorance. It's the thing that makes America great. If America weren't incomparably ignorant, how could we have tolerated the last eight years?
 
 
xytar with a Z
05:55 / 26.02.06
Winos don't march.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
10:12 / 26.02.06
Welcome to the board, xytar. If you check some of the other threads, especially in the Headshop, you will note that they usually begin with a few paragraphs outlining the topic that the starter wishes to discuss, perhaps a statement or two that other posters are invited to challenge or elaborate upon.

A thread on Frank Zappa could find a home in the Headshop if one tied it into the Headshop's remit. If you wanted to discuss Zappa's music, then the Music forum would be a good choice. You seem to want to quote Frank Zappa and tell us how great Frank Zappa was, which is fine, but you can't really do it here.

That's why I've requested that this thread be moved to the Conversation.
 
 
xytar with a Z
12:39 / 27.02.06
I understand.
should've been more clear!
I was really wondering where his philosophy fit in.
libertine? tao? renegade?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:53 / 27.02.06
What are your thoughts on it?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:03 / 27.02.06
libertine? tao? renegade?

Misogynist?
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
13:08 / 27.02.06
Hang on. Isn't this turning into "What's your take on Cassavetes?"?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:11 / 27.02.06
Surely it goes "outlaw hunting outlaws- bounty hunter- renegade" anyway?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
13:12 / 27.02.06
Fly gives us a pertinent problem, and a reason why a lot of yer counter-cultural icons are problematic- remember that when Jack Kerouac and his mates were off on the road being mystical, they left various wives and girlfriends behind to look after the kids and clean the house.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:14 / 27.02.06
But at least Kerouac presented a slightly more complicated version of masculinity/maleness than that in his work - one that allowed for vulnerability, homoeroticism, etc.

This is a pretty good essay on the subject of Frank Zappa.
 
 
Sax
13:24 / 27.02.06
And, Jack Kerouac listened to his mum and didn't have a boring, miserable life.
 
 
xytar with a Z
02:51 / 01.03.06
Wow, that link sure was a winy long winded rant. I am sure that FZ has fanboys and people with the Deadhead mentality "no way 73' was better than 78'" but sheesh just cause someone actually likes it is no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
 
 
xytar with a Z
02:59 / 01.03.06
My thoughts are that he was an amazing source of personal inspiration.

I truely enjoy "Deathless pony" "Inca Roads"
"Watermelon in Easter Hay" (great conclusion to "E Tu Mama, Tambien" BTW)

There is just so much good and positive in his societal anger and potty mouthed humor.

and from what i understand he has some great kids.
 
 
matthew.
03:03 / 01.03.06
And he gave us that indispensible gem of advice:
Don't Eat the Yellow Snow.

*slaps forehead*

Good gravy. Why didn't I think of that? Zappa was truly one of the Great Philosophers.
 
 
Slim
03:04 / 01.03.06
I had to learn that lesson the hard way.
 
 
grant
15:46 / 01.03.06
Something about Zappa always reminds me of R. Crumb. Always seems like the same scene -- sexy, grimy, '70s intellectual trash culture.

I did love his appearance on The Monkees where he played the car with the sledgehammer.
 
 
xytar with a Z
20:00 / 01.03.06
I was also thinking today how Beck and Tenacious D are definately on the same limb of the musical tree as FZ.
 
 
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21:43 / 01.03.06
If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your shit,
then YOU DESERVE IT.

thoughts, rants and ummm, words of Frank Zappa

I'm liking this Zappa guy, and I'm liking xytar aswell. Welcome to the 'lith.
 
 
xytar with a Z
16:41 / 02.03.06
tis good to be here

thanks!
 
 
xytar with a Z
16:44 / 02.03.06
Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just
because a few million people think you are?
 
 
Quantum
16:54 / 02.03.06
Zappa was a fantastic musician. Seriously, orchestras plead to play his compositions. AND he ran for president, Zappa rocks.

Shame if he was misogynist, but his music might still be appreciated. As a more controversial example of the same sentiment let me say I enjoy Nazi Jazz...

Ho hum, off to the Music with me.
 
 
Quantum
16:55 / 02.03.06
"Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just
because a few million people think you are? "

You don't have to be, it's just very, very, likely.
 
 
Quantum
17:10 / 02.03.06
BTW that linked essay does come across as polemic mid-90s NMEism a bit. The author casts Zappa fans as adolescent boys- as an adolescent boy I thought it was crap and was convinced to listen to it by my Mum. Who's a Zappa fan.

Here's the wikipedia entry for comparison
 
  
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