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Bear
06:06 / 27.02.02
Been talking in another place about how the whole chaos thing seems to be getting very results based (for me anyway and I've started to get a little pissed with the whole thing)...

So chaos for nothing but fun - anyone got any good ideas/rituals?

< and I swear if anyone starts moaning or bitchin I'm going to send my army of teenage gothic vampyres round to your house and steal your carrots!! >

 
 
FatherDog
12:47 / 27.02.02
Since fun is a desired result, wouldn't "chaos magick for nothing but fun" still be results based? All you're doing is going for a different category of results.

FatherDog
 
 
Bear
12:51 / 27.02.02
I guess your right Fun-killer Dog Fun with chaos though, any ideas...

Any Discordians about?

I guess I was just trying to cheer myself up - I'll get my coat...
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:02 / 27.02.02
Grab yourself a goat's head and go to your nearest church.

Rent a cheesy scary movie and watch it in a grave yard with a chick... have your friends jump out and scare the fuck out of her.

Dress in drag and visit your family.

I can go on...
 
 
cusm
16:49 / 27.02.02
I think what you're looking for is Discordianism, not chaos magick. Chaos magick is magick, using effects of chaos. Emphasis on the magick results based part. Discordianism is being chaotic, shaking people up, and having a ball at it. Good stuff, that Well, in small doses, at least.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:08 / 27.02.02
quote:Originally posted by bear:
and I swear if anyone starts moaning or bitchin I'm going to send my army of teenage gothic vampyres round to your house and steal your carrots!!


How about an "invoke an army of teenage goths and send them round someone's house" spell?
 
 
Ierne
17:13 / 27.02.02
Now THAT's fun!
 
 
Ierne
17:16 / 27.02.02
Ah double posts... Let's add a little fun for bear, then.

[ 27-02-2002: Message edited by: Ierne ]
 
 
Bear
17:29 / 27.02.02
Just imagining the goths now, what a picture - I've got the whole scence in my head, hundreds of goths appearing at a stately home...Elizabeth get the rifle...cheered me up anyway ....

 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:16 / 28.02.02
..Although thinking about it, a plauge of Discordians would be even better.
 
 
The_Player
09:16 / 28.02.02
Do a sigil to find the funniest people possible and pass a weekend with hir.

Make a ritual to materialize the craziest dream you'd ever had (like "I wanna live in Praga, working with microcomputers, gaining US$ 10000,00 monthly, dating the girl of my dreams"). Use Aurelia, Gek and other gods/servitors to charge the ritual.

And don't forgeto to tell us the results.

The_Player
 
 
penitentvandal
10:16 / 02.03.02
Buy a disused, abandoned mosque, renovate it back to it's original glory, working with only the finest designers and interior decorators...

And then open a gay fetish club in it.

And then pull exactly the same stunt at a disused, abandoned, fundamentalist Xtian church in Texas, for balance.

If I had Hagbard Celine's money...
 
 
Tucker Tripp
01:21 / 05.03.02
use magic to fulfil your wildest dreams and desires. That sounds like fun to me!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:48 / 06.03.02
I've been thinking a lot about this.

Fun, my friends and droogies, is not merely fun. Fun sets us free. It is the great liberator, that which throws aside convention and tumbles restraint. Fun is can-do. The song of Fun is "We Could! We Might!" Fun is the best buddy of the brainstormer, the freedom to voice the wildest, craziest ideas without fear or favour, because it doesn't matter if the idea is crazy- we're just having Fun!

Fun is the Court Jester, the wise fool who can speak wild truths, the person who can criticize the monarch when everyone else won't, the little boy who sees the naked Emporer and speaks without fear. Why is ze permitted to do this? Because it's Fun!

Sure, some ideas are more do-able than others, and eventually you have to come back down to earth, do the donkey-work, conduct the feasibility study, whatever. But Fun enables us to come up with the new idea in the first place, to think outside the lines, to get to places we wouldn't normally go, to defy rigidity and embrace Creation like a little kid hugging a favourite stuffed toy.

Io, FUN!
 
 
Bear
11:56 / 06.03.02
You know the above is much better if you sing it in the style of a Broadway musical, putting emphasis on the word Fun when it appears
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
12:11 / 06.03.02
Maybe I could throw in a few rhymes? A bit more of a salsa beat?
 
 
Bear
12:13 / 06.03.02
nice one, you could make it a b-side on your first hit single...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
03:50 / 12.01.03
Since there's a bit of a similar vibe around at the mo...

BUMP!
 
 
MrCoffeeBean
10:39 / 12.01.03
Saying that Discordianism is "just about fun" proberly piss a whole bunch of discordians off, me among others. Discordianism got a whole lot more than that in it...

And isnt FUN just another way to achive the goal of the magick? I would say FUN is just another method. A realy great one that alot more magifolks realy need more of...especialy some iknowsomuchstoppyssufootingaroundcermonialmagickains...
 
 
mixmage
21:10 / 12.01.03
Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!

Gimme slack or gimme fun. Actually, funning is far more fun. Furthur!
 
 
slinkyvagabond
13:10 / 13.01.03
..and fun and trickster elements are just perfect for a message forum if you think about Hermes...
 
 
illmatic
13:19 / 13.01.03
Cheers Mordant - more fun, less work is definitely needed at the mo,it being the beginning of another work year ... boo hiss...

Fuck this - I'm leaving to join the circus..
 
 
illmatic
13:22 / 13.01.03
The circus wouldn't have me...

rather than let it get me down I'm turning m,y whole life into a circus ... SEND IN THE CLOWNS!!!
 
 
LVX23
21:37 / 13.01.03
Yeah, Fun as Magick, Magick as Fun! Love it. This is, IMHO, one of the things that sets chaos magick apart from traditional magick - fun, humor, not taking yourself too seriously. I would wager that this was inherited from Discordians too (to go out on a limb) when Discordia and Magick crossed paths. Discordia is basically performance magick with a sense of humor. The Yippies were doing it and the Pranksters too (and the surrealists and situationists). It may be politically motivated but the desire is to break people out of their molds, throw 'em for a loop, and remind them that life is NOT what you expect...It is, in fact, far more ridiculously silly than most people can even imagine. Wilson (being one of the primal discordians) knows this best and is a pro at flaying all conventions and dogmas. Hail Eris! Hail to the Lies by which all Truths are hounded!
 
 
the king of byblos
06:22 / 14.01.03
morning all and hail eris!
if you aren't having fun when doing it then why bother? So many groups throughout history have used (non-malicious)laughter to excite and illuminate or at least break the spell at the end of a working. Chaos Magik should be IMHO every activity that gets you to your result whether that be world peace or turning the Prime Minister's hair green and as any Situationist will tell you the Bavarian Fire Drill is great fun.
 
 
Mike
12:21 / 23.01.03
From http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1065493

Bavarian Fire Drill
(idea) by Glowing Fish (35.6 min) (print) ? 1 C! Thu May 31 2001 at 6:39:07



In the Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea, a Bavarian Fire Drill is the technique that the Illuminati use to control people's minds by inserting keywords and actions into their speech that make people automatically obey.

A senior Discordian demonstrates this to a junior Discordian by jumping out of their car in a traffic jam, walking around and clanging on things, and repeating "Everyone, stay calm, move to rear, no pushing" and other phrases associated with emergencies. Everyone follows the orders, even though their is no fire present.

By extension, the phrase can be used to describe any swaying of people's opionins by bringing up ghoulies. during the 80's, for example, mention of Drugs and the need to have a War on Drugs were used as a Bavarian Fire Drill to get instant public support. Since the effectivness of that has worn off, a number of candidates have been put forward for the same effect; including computer crackers, terrorists, gun owners, and (in the aftermath of Columbine) geeks.

A perfect example of a Bavarian Fire Drill is a book I found at the library here in Portland, OR the other month. It was entitled "Militias and Hate Groups", thus connecting the two in anyone who looked at the book uncritically. I can only imagine the reaction if someone wrote a book entitled "Homosexuals and Child Molesters" or "Southern Baptists and Foot Fetishes"
 
 
arcboi
13:08 / 23.01.03
This thread is clearly exhibiting too much fun. The authorities have been informed.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:32 / 24.01.03
Fun liberates.

Say we're sitting around, having a brainstorming sesh to solve a problem. If we are being all Serious and Sensible and wracking our shiny egg-shaped noggins for Serious and Sensible ways to solve the problem, then we've already cut ourselves off from many of the possible answers. We can't say anything stupid, oh dear me no.

If we're having Fun, though, it doesn't matter how stupid our ideas are. If we're having Fun, we can suggest all sorts of demented things, come up with all sorts of stupid ideas, and no-one's going to say "Stop that! Don't be stupid!" because you don't have to do that if you're having Fun. Of course, nine out of ten of the notions that get thrown up will have little practical application. Doesn't matter. We had some Fun thinking of them!

And idea number ten? That, my friends, will be a doozy.
 
 
Mike
20:34 / 24.01.03
Of course, by the time you get to idea 42, you probably haven't got much else to say, but at least idea 23 will make you laugh.
 
  
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