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The authority: revolutions

12:11 / 16.02.06

Unfortunayely I only managed to get hold of up to issue #10 of this series, but, being the fanboy I am i don´t want to wait untill March when the new collection is out for me to find out about a few things

so if someone would be a doll and help me work out some things than I would be a very happy Switch.

The Questions might Contain spoilers and the aswers more than likely will.

1 The author seems to not understand relationships in general and gay relationships in particular. Midnighter leaves the team, and the "reunion speech" that him and Apollo exchange when Jenny Quantum and Apollo find Midnighter is not very good. It sounds like there is no love lost between them. Is there any reconcilliation between Apollo and Midnighter at all in Revolutions? ie, do they get back together or anything?

2 Is the Dr permadead?

3 If the rumors are true, DC´s armageddon is trying to kill off the Wildstorm universe alltogether. Is it a complete reset restart thing then?

12:32 / 16.02.06

1. I think so, and let's face it they'll probably be back together by the time of the re-launch.

2. Oh yes. But Jeroen will still be hanging around in the Garden, so it's not so much that we've lost a junkie but gained a Doctor.

3. Hadn't heard anything about this? Where are these filthy rumours?

Regrettable Juvenilia

12:45 / 16.02.06

The author seems to not understand relationships in general and gay relationships in particular.

What about them does he not understand, and how is this lack of understanding demonstrated in the comic?

13:10 / 16.02.06

I'd argue that characterization in general has not largely been much of a hallmark of The Authority, a series that has long had exaggeration and excess at its centre...

14:12 / 16.02.06

I still think the only issues of 'The Authority' where I was happy with or interested in Midnighter and Apollo's relationship, were the Ellis issues, and the one towards the end where Midnighter breaks into their big ol' dognosed ship and Apollo's strung up and feeling shitty (and then sets a guy on fire, if I recall rightly). The big explodey THEY'RE GAY! With sex in the backside!! With each other!!! gloss Millar put on it was just kinda... what's that adding, precisely? And every author since... it's either this overdone old queens on bad pot and sugary liquors or a deft concern that the reader understand the innate gayness that makes up these very gay characters who happen to have gay elements pour out of their ears, every panel, all the way through every story, and heaven's mighty engines stall if they ever have any pother trait or do anything else but perpetuate their active gayness and homosexual identity.
You know, when an ostensibly straight character is written like that, reaffirming their utterly hetero straight-straight-straightness, all the time, every panel, every page, each word balloon they get? We - and by 'we' I mean I and all right-thinking people who read things exactly the way I do - begin to suspect their actual, well, straightness.

Y'know, I liked the Action Chaplain, though?

17:03 / 16.02.06

There was a report that Gail Simone's GEN13 book is going "back to the beginning". Some have interpreted that as suggesting a reboot. However, the presence of ArabDoctor, Teen Jenny and Rose Tattoo imply that Authority is not rebooting, and I'm pretty sure WildCATS isn't either.

17:06 / 16.02.06

'Gen13' kinda has to go back some... at least to just prior to Claremont taking over and writing a whole new cast only to bring back the original set anyway. All done badly. Of course, I'm biased, since Adam Warren's run was the only one I really ever enjoyed enough to willingly pay for.

Our Lady Has Left the Building

07:13 / 17.02.06

Wait, Apollo and the Midnighter are gayers? I somehow completely managed to miss that subtlety in Millar's run.

10:13 / 17.02.06

LoL

Thanks for the replys guys.

Hmm. There is gay and gay. I´m gay and I was for the first time ever not offended by the portrayal of them.
Sure they are reaffirming it, but its not dissimillar to me and my bf or our friends. At least they are not too overdone, at least I don´t think they are.
Maybe that makes me a queen... *thinks*

10:19 / 17.02.06

I've always felt that Ennis did the worst portrayal of the Apollo/Midnighter relationship. Which is a shame beacause I always thought the relationships between the protagonists of Preacher were well handled (Tulip and Jesse anyway).

10:42 / 17.02.06

I've always felt that there's a difference between superheroes who happen to be gay (the Ellis take on A & M, Wiccan & Hulkling in Young Avengers) and Gay Superheroes (Millar's take on A & M, and arguably Northstar).

Personally, I prefer the former. It's better writing, I think.

Regrettable Juvenilia

10:55 / 17.02.06

Hi, Lord Switch! Any chance of a reply to my question above?

13:46 / 17.02.06

I'd like to know which portrayals of gay superheroes offended Lord Switch...

I don't remember there being an awful lot of overtly stated homosexual superheroes and those that there have been had been very badly written but not actively offensive... Although the decision to make the then subtextually gay Northstar a literal fairy is fairly offensive in and of itself...

16:38 / 17.02.06

Hey fly, sorry about this. Full-time job and stuff

I think that in authority revolutions the way Mid deals with havving to leave the authority and apollo, for the sake he is doing it is portrayed in a very cold manner. As if the author had never had a girlfriend/boyfriend that they had to move away from.

The scene where they are meeting again, after 3 odd years is cold, and the attempt at cattyness between m and a is just plain naive.

thats My opinion

16:41 / 17.02.06

Oh,When it comes to the portrayal of gay superheroes. I didn´t mean superheroes, I meant portrayal of gay people in culture in general.

Will in will and grace, the horrible gay guy in that awfull catwoman film etc.

But nevermind, I do´t really feel like should get into a gay/gay/gay diskussion, because it wil turn into a rainbow parade of discussion