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Quantum
13:23 / 10.02.06
The discovery of Hooke's notes started me thinking about the history of Science, the Royal Society, the Victorian revolution and the New Physics and such. Reading the Baroque trilogy (Neal Stevenson) had a lot to do with it too, what bit of science history is your favourite? The Copernican revolution? The rise of Natural Philosophy? The Darwin affair? Einstein? Watson and Crick? Buckminster Fuller? Lovelock?

More widely, is anyone else fascinated by the evolution of scientific ideas, and the psychology of the people who devise the theories? For example, Darwin grew to loathe Nature almost pathologically which informed his theory of evolution which we now take as (close to) fact?

I love the Royal Society heyday personally, Boyle and Hooke and Wren and Newton and the gang discovering whatever they were interested in and founding disciplines left and right, the Longtitude and Calculus, it's like sexy science, rock 'n roll empiricism.
 
 
sleazenation
14:01 / 10.02.06
Sexy science indeed - Hooke kept a sex diary, I believe, making notes as copiously as he did on his other scientific endevours...And the rivalry and fueding - the beginnings of the Royal society could give footballer's wives a run for its money...

And then we have Sir Edmund Halley (he of the comet) what apparently took Tzar Peter the Gread for a drunken ride through a hedge on a wheel barrow

And lets not forget The Royal Institution, whose Christmas lectures still brighten up my festive season each yuletide...
 
 
SiliconDream
14:03 / 10.02.06
For example, Darwin grew to loathe Nature almost pathologically which informed his theory of evolution which we now take as (close to) fact?

Darwin considered certain aspects of nature to be morally troubling, but why would you say he "loathed it?" He was, for instance, taking strolls around his estate and happily studying the behavior of earthworms (and arguing that they might have thoughts and emotions) almost until the day he died.

The guy certainly had interesting psychological quirks--he kept a mirror in his study so he could see who was coming to his front door and hide if he didn't want to talk to them, although that was fairly rational given some of the popular reactions to his work--but I wouldn't put a Lovecraftian horror of the universe among them.
 
 
Lurid Archive
17:29 / 10.02.06
Pure math isn't really science - GGM doesn't believe it, but its kinda true - but I still nominate Évariste Galois. An anti-monarchist who got in trouble with the law, he actually died at the age of 21 in a duel over a woman. But he still managed to produce what is now called Galois Theory, and so more or less invented modern pure mathematics.
 
 
astrojax69
20:32 / 10.02.06
hey 's funny quantum. i found this story other day too - and as i work for a fellow of the royal society it rather piqued my [and his!] interest.

can barbelith afford the million quid to make sure the notes go home?!!

great moments in science? what a question... mebbe crick and watson cracking the genome? or the dude invented acid describing his first trip. or the one detected microwaves when his chocolate melted. such a sad tale! (i hope the uni reimbursed him for more choccy... )

incidentally, and as i have declared my bias, what do other 'lithers here (and this is a science thread, so mebbe i'll take this to convo if we fancy) what do we think about institutions like the royal society today?
 
 
sleazenation
23:22 / 10.02.06
Évariste Galois. An anti-monarchist who got in trouble with the law, he actually died at the age of 21 in a duel over a woman.

As opposed to Tycho Brahe - an astronomer who got his nose shot off in a duel about math...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:19 / 12.02.06
I think the adventurousness is what I like- if science is all about being curious, it seems only fitting that scientists would cross over, Venn diagram-wise, with adventurey types. I'm thinking of people like William Dampier, pirate and polymath, whose book was one of the few Darwin took with him on the Beagle.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
16:04 / 13.02.06
Francis Bacon died as a result of pneumonia he contracted while freezing chickens.

what a lad.

--not jack
 
 
Dead Megatron
20:17 / 13.02.06
No to mention all those dudes who died of radation poisoning in the early 20th century. Except Mr. Cury: he was run over by a chariot.
 
 
astrojax69
20:23 / 13.02.06
does anyone know the name of the mathematician that ran off with alfred nobel's wife, eradicating from the grasp of mathematicians for perpetuity the accordance of greatness through a nobel prize? who won last year's fields medal? see!


...and no takers on my question on the relevance or otherwise of the royal society?
 
 
sleazenation
07:34 / 14.02.06
The Royal Society today continues to promote science, much like the Royal Institution, whose Christmas lectures on a different aspect of science each year are always a highlight of my yultide season...

The Royal Societyis also a charitable institution that helps to fund the work of numerous scientists...
 
 
Lurid Archive
11:39 / 14.02.06
does anyone know the name of the mathematician that ran off with alfred nobel's wife

I've heard that story, but also heard it is a myth.

As for the Royal Society...I'm not sure I know very much about them at all. I've certainly not had any contact with them.
 
 
elene
13:04 / 14.02.06
I don't want to diminish Galois' reputation, Lurid, but a very great deal of pure mathematics existed before 1830. Nobel never married, astrojax, which of course doesn't mean the legend's untrue. It's probably untrue though.

One admirable thing I remember about the Royal Society is that they managed to make the Oliver Heaviside a fellow. Heaviside was one of the most important scientists of the late nineteenth century - among other things he put Maxwell's equations into there present form, and he constructed a formulism, the operational calculus, that allowed many important differential equations, such as the "telegrapher's equation," to be solved using irregular inputs such as the step and delta functions - but he was a difficult man, working class and, having left school at 16, an autodidact as far a science was concerned, with a chip on his shoulder and a bitter temper. A prototypical mad scientist in fact. If I remember rightly Lord Kelvin insisted they acknowledge his contributions, which wasn't obvious in the 1890's. I'm all for mad scientists.

I vote for Archimedes, specifically his integration of the circle (using the limit of a sum of the areas of an unlimited number of increasingly narrow covering triangles) as the most significant event in the history of science, but only because the invention of the wheel was prehistoric.
 
 
Lurid Archive
13:50 / 14.02.06
I don't want to diminish Galois' reputation, Lurid, but a very great deal of pure mathematics existed before 1830

My bad - "modern" was the word I was trying to stress. It marked a change in style, which in some sense was more important than the content. He wasn't alone, of course, but what he did was kinda striking.

But Archimedes is an excellent choice too. Its easy to think that he would have invented calculus - almost 2000 years earlier than Newton and Liebniz - if the environment had been right.
 
 
astrojax69
20:39 / 14.02.06
Nobel never married, astrojax, which of course doesn't mean the legend's untrue. It's probably untrue though.

damn urban myths, damn you to hell!! it sounds so good, and otherwise i have to believe that nobel didn't consider mathematics to be a science (whose premises are testable in reality, is that a fair definition?) so didn't give a prize, not 'cause he was cuckolded by a maths nerd?? damn damn damn....


and yeah, mad scientists rock.
 
 
Daemon est Deus Inversus
23:08 / 17.02.06
An essay by J.M. Keynes, circa 1945, titled "Newton: The Man." According to Keynes, who delivered this as lecture at Cambridge at a belated celebration of Newton's 300th birthday, Newton was bored by mathematics and physics; spent the overwhelming amount of his time on practical alchemy (he left a huge amount of writings on this); outside of alchemy, hated the experimental method, i.e., in mathematics and physics: ideas just came to him intuitively; and friends had to force him to write a proof. Apparently, he sufferred a nervous breakdown at 50, abandoned all scientific work, never touched practical alchemy again, and spent the last three decades of his life as president of the Royal Society and master of the Mint (where he apparently came up with some neat ideas on coinage) during which time, growing very stout, he became an ornament of sorts.
 
  
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