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Citing citing citing

 
 
All Acting Regiment
07:25 / 08.02.06
Okay, I'm putting the finishing touches to an essay for uni, and it turns out that I have to reference the theory I've been using. Fair enough. I'm just not sure exactly what I need to do. I've got the author's name (Ferdinand de Saussure), I've got the title of the text I'm refererring to, and I've got a date- 1916. Do I need to put anything more than this in my reference?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
07:35 / 08.02.06
Oo, also, once I've referenced a text once, do I have to keep going back and referencing it every time I mention it?
 
 
The Falcon
07:53 / 08.02.06
Do you have a bibliography?

Are you referencing anything else? If not, I believe the current vogue would be to simply apply the ref. (book, year, page(s)) and then (page(s)) after each latter quote.
 
 
The Falcon
07:54 / 08.02.06
Bollocks.

Author, then book first time.
 
 
Ex
07:57 / 08.02.06
Have you done citation/bibliography stuff before, and it's just the vagueness of the Saussure that's throwing you? I'll give you the egg-suck version in case:

Pick a citation style and stick to it - check which your department prefers, and if no preference, there is:

Chicago
MLA

And a bunch of others. (These are brief style sheets from universities - the guides themselves are weighty things, and cover all eventualities ['citing your first cousin from pub conversation, hearsay'] and cost a bit.)

These will tell you where to put the references, what they look like, whether you reference it after each mention, and so forth eg. Chicago (I think) is a full bibliography at the end, with author surname and date in brackets when first mentioned (Ex, 2006).

But most styles will want a publisher/edition for the Saussure book as well as a date. Although he wrote the thing in 1916, you might end up naming a later edition in your bibliography if you can't track down the original publisher. If you haven't used any direct quotes or page references, you'll be fine with any edition. I think.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
08:05 / 08.02.06
The thing is, my Saussure (and my Barthes) is coming from a big anthology of essays- so should I put that book's details down the first time, and then each time after just put the essay names? It seems to make sense.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
08:07 / 08.02.06
I've done a little citing before but it is fairly new to me, and I've got two texts to cite.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
08:17 / 08.02.06
Yes; I would use the form:

Saussure, 'essay', in Xargle, Biggle & Dummkopf (eds.), Big Book of Essays (Place: Publisher, date), pp. x-x.

Next time you refer to the essay, just give the author and short title of the work (Saussure, 'essay', p. x) - you might even leave the title out if you are referring to only one work by that author, though I prefer including short titles - avoids confusion.
 
 
Ex
08:24 / 08.02.06
And shortened titles are sometimes hilarious. If I ever get something published, I'll try to make sure it has rude initials, as well, as some style systems use them instead (ARSEOFF, 1994).

Legba - the only caution I'd sound is to make sure it's the entire text of that particular essay. Sometimes readers have shortened versions. I warn final-year and PG students quoting anything from (for instance) the Routledge readers to read the full text somewhere else, as Routledcge have often neatly edited away what they think of as extraneous. Check for ellipses: ...

Although if the anthology has been the course text, your tutors can hardly get narky about you using it as your basic reading.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
08:26 / 08.02.06
Hmm, yeah, it it is like you say, with ellipses...so does that mean it's not the original text, and I have to just reference my big book of essays?
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
08:40 / 08.02.06
I would still cite the author and essay title, but perhaps check an unexpurgated version if you have time. And make it clear in your text or footnote that the original was published in 1916.

How important is the essay? You tutors or department should provide help with this sort of thing if it affects assessment, surely?
 
 
All Acting Regiment
09:24 / 08.02.06
It's not a major thing, and I have been given some help with it, I just haven't come across quite these circumstances before.

Thanks for all yer'help- I think I'm pretty much sorted now.
 
  
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