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Psychic Vampires

 
 
Margin Walker
22:16 / 17.02.02
I've heard this term bandied about now and again, but haven't come upon a good definition for it. Just what is a psychic vampire? How does one become a psychic vampire? Moreover, how does unbecome one? Also, how can you protect yourself (apart from avoiding them altogether)?
 
 
Trijhaos
22:19 / 17.02.02
This page will some of your questions.

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Vadrice
04:08 / 18.02.02
I'm afraid I only know enough to know to stay away.

Icky. Scares me. Wants my junks.
I wants my junks. Don't take my junks!
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
05:15 / 18.02.02
Very sceptical about all this.

"Symptoms of emotional (and sometimes physical) exhaustion after being in their presence for a while is typical." Er, yes. Another word for people who induce symptoms like this is 'boring'.

"Conscious psychic vampires are those who deliberate[ly] take energy from others..." Also known as 'sad little goth junior-Lestat
wannabes'.

Look, if you visualize energy flowing to you, you'll feel good. It doesn't matter if you visualize it flowing out of the ground, the sky, or your computer monitor, it'll work. If you visualize the energy coming from another person, that'll work too, but wherever the energy is really coming from and whatever it really is, it's probably not coming from the other guy's 'aura'.

Similarly, if you believe that energy is being drained out of you then you'll feel run down and tired.

I'm not saying that there is definately no such thing as psychic vampirism. I'm just saying that the usual symptoms and effects that get reported could more easily be accounted for in other ways. But that wouldn't be nearly so exiting, would it?
 
 
Ganesh
10:39 / 18.02.02
In the psychiatric profession, we know these self-dramatising, energy-sapping individuals as "pains in the arse". In eye-liner.

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Bear
11:21 / 18.02.02
quote:I'm just saying that the usual symptoms and effects that get reported could more easily be accounted for in other ways. But that wouldn't be nearly so exiting, would it?


Which is what alot of people say about magick

Anyway, there seems to be alot of ego around the whole thing really, as you say angry teens playing vampire (but I gotta admit I was kinda fasinated by the whole vamp thing when I was younger)...

There's talk of it on another place I go at the moment but it all seems a little over the top...

There might be something in it though, maybe someone else has tried some of the techniques...the Temple of the Vampire go on about it alot but its hard to find any info about them without buying their bible...

although I believe the Satanist bible talks about them but I haven't gotten to that section yet

quote:In eye-liner

hope your not mocking eye-liner its my new look
 
 
The Planet of Sound
12:31 / 18.02.02
The notoriously sane Colin Wilson is a believer in psychic vampires. I've certainly come across some people whose boredom generation powers are so far developed as to be paranormal.
 
 
cusm
13:59 / 18.02.02
Yes, Anton Lavey is responsible for a lot of this rubbish. Seems a popular sport for the afore mentioned eye liner covered pains in the arse, but also for a lot of angsty moody brats who get the wrong side of Thelema and generally make a bother of themselves to the local magical community by trying to prey on younger angstier goths.

In defense of them though, someone very close to me was damaged by one of these, and for many years was a close to the real thing as they get. Neither angsty nor gothy, she simply had to feed form the energy of others every now and then or she would grow physically ill and start to waste away. I've seen it happen when she's tried to go "cold turkey" with it. As a result, she tried everything she could to fix it, becoming quite impressively trained and skilled in the arts in the process. No luck. She had a trusted few who knew and took care of her, and tried to help her correct whatever imbalance was the cause of it. I got pretty deep into her head, and know a hell a lot more about the subject now than I was ever interested in, and can say that the cause was indeed a deep psychological trauma manifested in a mystical manner due to her being so strongly tied to magic. It had to do with not really wanting to live, and in a very real psychological way, existing in a depressed undead limbo disconnected from the world and living. I really wish I was making this shit up, but its true. She was a real a vampire as anyone can get without growing fangs. She was an otherwise very sensible and talented person who was damaged on a deep level. Her spirit was broken, and this is was how she coped. It wasn't glamourous, it wasn't romantic, it wasn't fun. It was painful, depressing, and scary, as dealing with anyone mentally or spiritually ill can be.

She's finally cured now, by the way. It took years of help, support and fighting. Then finally she found something to live for, forgot her traumas, got deeply involved in voodoo and the lwa rewrote her from the ground up and that patched it up right. It was pretty amazing, she had to go through a complete rebirth into a new life to get away from it.

So as a result, I don't take too kindly to kiddies playing at being vampires, and have smacked sense into more than one of the local youngsters to get off that path before it really does become an addiction, and then a problem that may take years to correct.

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Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:45 / 18.02.02
Just read back over my post from earlier; I meant what I said, but I came off sounding a lot stroppier than I meant to. I don't mean to dismiss the phenomenon, just that it's outside of my personal experience (whereas people who blame psychic vampirism for everything definately aren't. I'd also differentiate between angsty ricean types and people who're employing aspects of the pop-culture vampire archetype for magical means; not really my bag, but I can see how it might be useful for some workings so long as you didn't get carried away.
 
 
Vadrice
19:18 / 18.02.02
quote:it might be useful for some workings so long as you didn't get carried away
I think this should be imprinted on my eyeballs so I can see it no matter where I look.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
20:40 / 18.02.02
I'm starting to suspect that should be on all our eyeballs, mine especially. If it's not the Ricean item, it'll be something else- probably something that can only be spotted from a distance.

Anyhow, that's not what I popped in to post. I came across this site today, apropos of energy work in general and sheilding in particular. Bit fluffy, but there's some exercizes in here I thought peeps might find useful.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
13:49 / 25.02.02
I've met plenty of people who play at being a 'vampire' but I've only met one who actually was one in the way that cusm described.

My experience was very similar except that the person wasn't someone I was trying to cure or help in anyway.

As for the term 'psychic vampire', I find it a bit dramatic and misleading with the 'vampire' bit.

To me the average 'psychic vampire' is the opposite of someone who uses their energy to consciously heal someone and I've met plenty of those. One person had to be kicked out of an old drum circle I was in and another was always kept from putting her hands on people.

I've also met a Reiki practitioner that justified 'borrowing' energy from her clients during sessions because she spent so much time healing that she just needed a little boost so she could continue her good work.
 
 
cusm
13:59 / 25.02.02
Yep, I know one of those. If you have to 'borrow' energy, its not Reiki that you're doing
 
 
Re-Set
18:13 / 25.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Lothar Tuppan:
[QB]
As for the term 'psychic vampire', I find it a bit dramatic and misleading with the 'vampire' bit.
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Given the connotations associated with the word "vampire", and the fact that psychic energy isn't always the type that gets "stolen" in these cases, it is misleading. Perhaps "energy leech"?

Either way, theres something that needs to be taken into consideration. I've run into many, many of these people along the way, some more conscious of it than others. What I have found in most cases was that the energy being leeched from one person to the other didn't actually make it to the other person. Shamanically speaking, we all have potential to play host to parasitic memes or thoughtforms (the idea of being possessed, etc) It is more frequently, I believe, these parasites responsible for the energy stealing, and they don't share the energy with the host, though they will let the host carry around the weight of the negativity.

This doesn't say alot, but I think it does emphasize the point that compassion is still required with these "vampires", as they aren't necessarily at all aware of what they are doing. It also makes the idea of healing or exorcising that person of their parasite more realistic.
 
 
Elijah, Freelance Rabbi
09:25 / 26.02.02
i get all the symptoms when im at work, is there a vampire here???

no, but i do think im alergic to the building...
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:41 / 26.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Elijah Non Grata:
i get all the symptoms when im at work, is there a vampire here???

no, but i do think im alergic to the building...


Heh. I wonder how many "psychic vampire" incidents are actually down to defective central heating flues?
 
  
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