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What novel should I buy?

 
 
sleazenation
14:06 / 26.01.06
It was by Birthday recently and during the general festivities I was given a book tolken.

Now I'm wondering what to spend it on...

Over the past few years I have noticed that my reading consists mainly of periodicals, comics and graphic novels and non-fiction in all manner of shapes and sizes. I think the last actual novel I read might well have been the Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time. I have the vague notion that I want to get round to reading the War of the Worlds So I'll probably buy that too, but what I am really looking for is for people to recommend a novel, telling me a bit about it and why I might enjoy it or any other reason why I sould read it...

So, over to you guys - what novel should I buy?
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
14:13 / 26.01.06
Something I'd recommend is J.D. Salinger's short fiction. You may have read it, you may not. But I love "Franny & Zooey", "Raise High the Roofbeams, Carpenters", and "For Esme, With Love And Squalour". A lot of the stories are centred around the Glass family, who, I think, were probably an inspiration for The Royal Tenenbaums.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:22 / 26.01.06
This one.
 
 
ShadowSax
14:48 / 26.01.06
have you read "vernon god little" yet? good one. i just started "curious incident," they seem to have some similarities.

anything by houllebecq is worthwhile, i think.

or you could "a million little pieces" for some laughs. (the "at him" kind of laughs, not the "with him" kind.)

short stories - have you read george saunders "civilwarland"? thats a good collection.
 
 
Loomis
14:48 / 26.01.06
I thought that was going to be a link to Hinterland.

Shame on you Stoat! Do you want Sax's kids to starve?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:57 / 26.01.06
I naturally assumed that, like all right-thinking people, sleaze already had Hinterland.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
15:13 / 26.01.06
I spy with my little eye...

The Day of the Triffids, by John Wyndham. Science fiction about malevolent plant life that is beleivable and disturbing. It's very precise, clear presentation puts across a frightening vision of a world gone maaad that thankfully lacks any action movie bollocks. And you're a Who fan, yup? Influences, see.

Alcestis, by Euripedes, Ted Hughes's translation. Really beautiful language puts across elegant story with lots of meaning. Two good'uns, thousands of years apart, in brilliant partnership.

Phillip Larkin's Collected Poems. Great poetry- not exactly "jazzy" but brilliant in their own way. For more acid and sparks get Ariel by Sylvia Plath.
 
 
matthew.
02:54 / 27.01.06
I second dhalgren. It spends all day up in my head, running around, running into, and running onto everything up there.
 
 
modern maenad
08:17 / 27.01.06
Sleazenation

This is a tricky one, 'cos of the whole personal taste thing, but am gonna wade in with my top books of past few years (and I read, erm, loads):

The Crimson Petal and the White, Michael Faber - first person tale of life as a prostitute in C19th London, astounding eye for detail, excellent characterisation but main thing is suptuous, gorgeous, want-to-roll-around-in-it but not too dense or hard going prose......

A Million Little Pieces, James Frey - verging on emotional pornography autobiographical account of rehab, rejection of twelve steps, candid refections on addiction/life as an addict, reality-testing relationships with others overcoming addiction, anti-establishment and, strangely, addictive page turner. A complex read, uncomfortable, challenging, brutally honest, bit like being inside his head at times....

We need to talk about Kevin, Lionel Shriver - easily the best book I've read in years - have had lengthy debates in the Kevin thread in Books forum, but its full of spoilers from the off so wouldn't recommend you check it out till you've finished Kevin. First person account of reluctant motherhood to a troubled boy who commits a high school massacre. Complex, sophisticated writing, works on a number of levels, as a personal reflection on parenthood/loss etc. to more allegorical examination of American culture, violence, consumerism etc. Don't want to say too much as might spoil it. Works well with Vernon God Little, but light years ahead in terms of sophistication, prose etc. Would also add Gus Van Sant's film Elephant into the whole 'meditations on adolescent violence' and Natural Born Killers.

A Hearbreaking Work of Staggering Genious, Dave Eggars - bit 'old' now, but still well worth a read. Autobiographical chronicle of bringing up his younger brother after the death of his parents, hailed as a 'postmodern' novel, as the author slips between narrative stances and styles, moves into stream of consciouness writing at times, plays with punctuation etc. But expertly done and not as confusing as it sounds. Also extensive use of footnotes and cross referencing. V.v. funny in places. One of the few books I'm going to reread.

There are plenty more could rave about, but that's the top of my current pile....
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
08:45 / 27.01.06
Second on the Dave Eggers. I picked it up 'cos I just couldn't resist the title, and really enjoyed it.
 
 
GogMickGog
10:04 / 27.01.06
Legba Rex! Such a fan of all things Hughes! Alcestis is an absolute marvel, you're right-beautiful language-I also like the insertion of modern images to contemporise (real word?) the play.

May I suggest some Henry Green? I'd put him somewhere between James Joyce and Evelyn Waugh. Concluding is a great work- inconsequential, universal, hilarious.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:30 / 27.01.06
If you haven't already read it, you might well enjoy 'The Amazing Adventures Of Kavalier and Clay' by Michael Chabon (who also wrote 'Wonder Boys,' if you've seen the movie,) which concerns a pair of Jewish cousins in early Forties New York, one of them a teenage refugee from the ghettoes in Prague, the other a more traditional Brooklyn kid on the make, and the comic book character, The Escapist, they invent in an effort to a)make a million, and b)do what they can to stir up anti-Nazi feeling in the States, just prior to Pearl Harbour. It's basically *a thumping good read,* stylish, original, gripping and so on, and, I'm guessing this'll be of paticular interest, at least partially based on interviews Chabon conducted with Will Eisner, Stan Lee and Gil Kane.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
12:43 / 27.01.06
Thomas Mann's Death in Venice and Other Stories is essentially a novella (DIV) and a bunch of really great short stories all in one fairly light volume. I started reading it with virtuous intent and was surprised by how much I actually enjoyed it - especially the stories.
 
 
Sax
13:16 / 27.01.06
I just finished Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted, which is basically a collection of short stories strung together by a loose narrative. Sometimes it flows, sometimes the seams show. But there's enough spunk, blood, piss and shit to keep pretty much anyone happy.
 
 
fabi
15:45 / 27.01.06
Kurt Vonnegut´s Mother Night. It´s about American writter who lives in Germany during WWII and about his post war years. It simply awesome!
 
 
grant
20:19 / 27.01.06
modern maenad: A Million Little Pieces, James Frey - verging on emotional pornography autobiographical account of rehab... brutally honest

Or, well, not.
 
 
modern maenad
09:24 / 28.01.06
grant - thanks for links. Kinda disappointing, and would like to know more about why he exagerrated. Still happy to recommend the book though as the writing alone makes it worth it...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
10:07 / 28.01.06
MM,

As the links say.

Without wishing to have a go, especially, did none of 'A Million Little Pieces' strike you as being a bit unlikely? Insofar as he goes into rehab with (implicitly anyway) a far worse habit than anyone else's, gets his teeth done without teh gas (the reasons for this ordeal being precisely... what? Couldn't he have just waited for a couple of months, or got falsies instead? Well no, because he's James Frey, and is a tough motherfucker, always) and then befriends, or rather, is befriended by, the toughest motherfucker in the joint, a hardcore gangsta, yet, who's lived the life, seen everything, etc, but who's met the likes of James (that brick) but rarely, too little in his life. This being largely based on his response to Frey's bad time at the dentist's - It's not so much that you couldn't make this stuff up, more just that you wouldn't. And then having gained the approval of teh father, James goes on to win the love of teh girl, fight off all of his demonz and emerge, bloodied but unbowed, from teh abyss of rehab pretty much like Conan the Barbarian, or Jack Nicholson in 'One Flew Over...' if only he'd won.

I'm not sure if most people's experiences of being in rehab are anything like this - the clinic's presumably only there to help - but I suspect, on balance, that the reality of the situation is a bit less, I don't know, self-servingly dramatic than the sub-Joseph-Campbell set-up described by Frey here.

If I met him James Frey, I'd buy him a drink. It's really what he deserves.
 
 
modern maenad
10:52 / 28.01.06
Alex - I agree that the doubts over the truthfulness of his account have retrospectively sullied my enjoyment of this book, but as I was reading I really didn't suspect. I can be a bit gullible and naive at times, but just like Preston in last nights Celebrity Big Brother interview, I'd rather trust people and be proved wrong than spend my life distrusting others. And given that James Frey has some serious issues/problems, the tendency to exagerate his story could be seen as further evidence of these problems. And despite all this, I'd still recommend it as an amazing piece of emotionally explicit writing, whether or not its 'true'.

Regarding him getting his teeth done without pain relief, my understanding is that people addicted to opiates aren't meant to be given opiate based pain relief, but this may well be an urban myth.

If I met him James Frey, I'd buy him a drink. It's really what he deserves.

Have to say that I think this is a pretty cruel sentiment, whatever you think of James Frey. He may have embellished his account of his life and rehab, but he's still a recovering addict who deserves our respect for getting as far as he has.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
17:16 / 28.01.06
sleaze, if you want to read a novel that's just fun I'd recommend Slab Rat by Ted Heller. It's a nasty comic novel set in the New York offices of a magazine, and is about how people react when someone particularly foul starts working there. It's deeply amusing. Don't want to give too much away, but it's well worth spending a book token on. (Also, do tell us what you end up buying!)
 
 
Alex's Grandma
13:00 / 29.01.06
I think this is a pretty cruel sentiment.

Yes, fair enough.

On the other hand though, JF the literary character, if not the man, is so nails that there's no way he'd drink it, in fact he'd no doubt kick my lily-livered ass.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
15:11 / 29.01.06
Robert Irwin is my all-time favorite writer and I would recommend any of his novels, with a slight emphasis toward The Arabian Nightmare (linked) or Exquisite Corpse. Note: His real estate guides are less engrossing.

I just finished, and enjoyed immensely, Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel by Susanna Clarke. It is long and fun.
 
 
Sax
06:18 / 31.01.06
So, what did you buy, Sleaze?
 
 
Loomis
07:34 / 31.01.06
I'm currently reading Arthur & George by Julian Barnes, which I nicked off Ariadne. If you're looking for a real page-turner that you can't put down, I can recommend this. Especially if you have an interest in the late Victorian period, or trains, or detectives, and who doesn't really?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:33 / 31.01.06
Qalyn- seconding the Irwin recommendation, though I'd probably put Satan Wants Me! just a teeny bit higher up than Exquisite Corpse, even though that is indeed rockin'.
 
 
sleazenation
10:58 / 31.01.06
I have a procrastrination streak a mile wide, particularly when getting round to doing important/new things...

Thus, despite wandering around book shops a lot recently I haven't actually bought anything yet... and on top of that I've found more book tolkens...

I've also remnembered promising myself that I'd get a copy of Henry Morten Stanley's biography (and if you don't know much about him, let me tell you he had a long an interesting life - that started as an illigitimate child in the poor house and eventually lead to a knighthood and seat in parliment, via both sides in the US civil war and lots of exploring in Africa...)

But yes, books.

I haven't read Frankie and Zooie, but really did not enjoy Catcher in the Rye, so I probably won't plump for that... unless people can make an incredibly good case for it...

We Need to Talk About Kevin is already on my bookshelf, read by my partner, who is a voracious reader... It doesn't have an immense appeal to me, but it is already here and it does come highly recommended...

The new Julian Barnes book strikes me as appealing with its whole setting and subject matter really appeals, as does Barnes writing...

But I shall think a bit further, and comment on other suggestions later...
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
14:19 / 31.01.06
Franny and Zooey isn't very like Catcher In The Rye, sleaze - although I did enjoy Catcher, I think Salinger uses a lighter touch in his other works, and they're mostly narrated in the third person, rather than from a dysfunctional teenager's point-of-view. And, again, if you enjoyed the movie The Royal Tenenbaums, I think you'll enjoy Franny and Zooey.
 
 
Saltation
22:33 / 16.02.06
"Lord of Light" by Roger Zelazny is a great book and a keeper.

ditto "Sense and Nonsense" by Jerome K. Jerome (which incidentally has the most pungent analysis of war you will ever read in print, and all in a handful of pages.)
 
 
Shrug
23:23 / 16.02.06
I haven't read Franny and Zooey in a while, years in fact but I don't think the Glass' are ever as consciously kooky as the Tenembaums, thank god. And as far as Catcher in the Rye similarities go, well it is quite different, alot less of "That just about killed me" and other Holden-isms for one. The two protagonists are far more likeable and the book itself is small and easily digestible in a couple of hours. Worth a read, I'd say.
 
 
sleazenation
12:10 / 05.03.06
So, after much procrastination and some last minute temptation in the graphic novels dept. of Foyles I ended up plumping for War of the Worlds and Cryptonomicon, as recommended loudly and repeatedly by persephone...

However, I may well return to this thread to guide future purchases...
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
19:37 / 05.03.06
excellent choices, sleaze - enjoy

--not jack
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
03:43 / 07.03.06
Not for nothing, but Catcher in the Rye is fascinating, if not exactly "good". You know, of course, that Mark David Chapman was obsessed with it. Did you know also that Salinger was in the OSS, as a counter-intelligence operative? He broke codes, cut telegraph wires, took down road signs in the countryside and that sort of thing, but his unit actually specialized in interrogation. His CO was Henry Kissinger. Holden does a weird thing, for a character in a book. It's something we do in common speech all the time, but in a book it's weird. He inverts the identity of the reader and the narrator at moments of stress, and especially, or most intensely, around violent fantasies or delusions--that is, switches from "I" to "you"--which induces something like, I dunno, Stockholm Syndrome. I did a whole statistical analysis thing once. Anyway. One time I was looking at Catcher in the Rye on Amazon or somesuch--this was years ago--and you know that ecommerce doohickey that learns from customer shopping habits, and makes recommendations? It started advertising binoculars.
 
  
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