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Olulabelle
11:32 / 26.01.06
(Oooh. It's all pink in here!)

Which comics would you recommend for an 8 year old who has just discovered the Marvel Spiderman books? Some of the Marvel books have an 'all ages' label, but the reprints of old Spiderman ones don't so I'm not sure if they might have some adult content in.

Apart from Spiderman and the Fantastic Four, which comic characters might he like and which labels are most likely to be child friendly?

I know to avoid Vertigo but other than sitting on the floor of Forbidden Planet flicking through the comics as I did this morning, how do I navigate the potential minefield that is adult content and help him safely choose ones that aren't going to give him nightmares?
 
 
Bed Head
11:49 / 26.01.06
This one. I had a reprint of these very comics when I was 8 and I’ve turned out JUST FINE.

Also, DC publishes a range of comics that are specifically Just For Kids, I think. Special kid-friendly batman and superman and justice league. What a crazy idea, etc
 
 
Aertho
11:51 / 26.01.06
Look for things with this logo.



The Johnny DC titles are "comics for kids".
 
 
Triplets
11:53 / 26.01.06
You might want to find the Batman Adventures, Superman Adventure and Justice League Adventures comics which are loosely based on their cartoon counterparts (a comic of a cartoon of a comic). They're all-ages fair and popcomic goodness to boot.
 
 
Bed Head
12:00 / 26.01.06
Ah, yeah, here we go:

The Batman Strikes!
Justice League Unlimited!

Don’t know it they’re any good, but, if you have the kind of telly that will receive it, then I can recommend the Justice League cartoon as stormingly good fun. Always has me wishing it had been around when I was a kid, cos I always loved the Justice League.
 
 
Sniv
12:16 / 26.01.06
I'd add another vote for the old DC ...Adventures books, especially if you can find them cheap in a back issue bin. The first comic I ever read was Batman Adventures #5 when I was about 9. Mind you, I also bought a b&w issue of Swamp Thing (because of the 'toon on saturday mornings... or am I thinking Toxic Avenger?), but I didn't really understand it at that age.#

I also recommend All Star Superman, as it's amazing, has great artwork and is very non-offensive. Reprint collections are also a great way to go for kids, especially ones made up of small stories (rather than a modern graphic novel). I used to love my "Greatest Joker Stories Ever Told" Collection. Golden and Silver age stuff is usually quite good for wee kids.

The marvel essentials line is probably a good bet, if your young'un can stand the black and white artwork (little kids are colour snobs, it seems), and both the 'big two' put their kid-ier books in a Manga, digest sized format. I've seen the Marvel Ages stuff (awful, awful comics if you're over 5 or/and can read the words), DC's the Batman and others in this format. Didn't check the prices though.
 
 
Dark side of the Moonfrog1
13:52 / 26.01.06
*puts on advertising hat*

You could try the Classic Marvel Pocketbooks from Panini. (Though he might find the material a bit dated, but they're only £3.99 so what the heck. Actually I was in FP yesterday and noticed they were selling them for £2.99 - bargain!)

Small but perfectly formed...

Or if you're in a newsagents or supermarket you could try looking for Panini's Marvel Rampage or Spectacular Spider-Man magazine, both of which feature UK originated Marvel stories.

In FP your best bet is to track down any of the Marvel Adventures Spidey stuff...

Marvel Adventures Spider-Man




Hope this helps!
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
14:12 / 26.01.06
Archies are still a lot of fun if you are a kid, and they are SLOWLY moving to a manga style of art on some of the lesser titles like Sabrina. I'd also suggest the series "Leave It To Chance", which is available in collections or the comics adaptation of "The Hobbit" which should be available in bookstores.

For the Marvel books people are talking about, they have a line of "Marvel Age" books which are aimed at younger readers, but I don't care for them at all since they just read like watered down versions of Silver Age comics.

There is also manga aimed at younger readers, but I don't know a lot about that genre
 
 
Triplets
14:17 / 26.01.06
And let us know what you and The Boy think of them, of course!
 
 
DavidXBrunt
10:46 / 28.01.06
Just to add a vote for the D.C.'s J.L.U. title, an excellent all age title.

Other comics originally aimed at kids have been collected recently. There's Dan Dare, The Spider, and The Steel Claw, though these may have dated too much for a modern kid (though I read and loved Dare at that age and would have loved the others. I was a strange kid).

There are also the first three volumes of Panini's Doctor Who reprints that are pretty damn good. Wagner, Mills, Gibbons, Parkhouse. Good pedigree, don't you agree. There's also a news-stand reprint of the 9th Doctors comic strips coming up that should be suitable.

From the house of Tharg there's Banzai Battalion a story of pest control in the big Meg with tiny robots fighting sometimes giant pests. Wagner, Henry Flint, Cam Kennedy, Ian Gibson. The earliest Dredds (the first 60 issues worth) have been collected in the Complete Dredd Case Files volume 1 and again have dated but are still great fun. There's also Alan Moore and Jim Baike's Skizz, or what if E.T. hadn't landed in the American dream suburbia but in Birmingham and met characters that would have been at home in Grange Hill or Boys from the Blackstuff.

Oh, and Charlies War.
 
 
Jack Fear
11:49 / 28.01.06
Mark Crilley's Akiko is a huge hit around our house: there are at least five TPB collections. (There's also a series of prose Akiko chapter-books, written by Crilley and with plenty of spot illos.)

And for kids who like science, or bugs, or poop jokes, there's Jay Hosler's Clan Apis, which is all about bees. It's a wonderful read—educational, yeah, but also funny, exciting, and moving.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
13:00 / 28.01.06
And the very fact that this thread has got so far without anyone mentioning Bone brings shame upon us all. There's a choice of the big old bargain tastic collection with it all under one cover and the new Scholastic range that reprints one book at a time with swanky dandy colouring. Personally I don't think it needs colouring but if ever an after the fact colouring job was done well it's those books and if they make it more accessable to a comics sceptical audience then job done.

Oh, and though the Dandy is on it's last legs and is going through a too-cool-for-school last ditch attempt to revive itself the Beano remains a great kids hunmour comic.
 
 
Hieronymus
23:27 / 28.01.06
A certain 7 year old girl I know loves the Scholastic BONE trades. The only problem is they've only published two volumes. I'm not sure if there's more to come. They're a bargain over the regular trades.

The Marvel Age stuff does suck but she also loves Marvel's latest Power Pack minis. It ain't half bad.
 
 
Olulabelle
01:20 / 29.01.06
What is it about Marvel Age that sucks?
 
 
iamus
10:57 / 29.01.06
Awww, man! Power Pack! I totally forgot about them.

I used to catch the odd reprinted story or two in some other British comic or other. I used to love them.
 
 
sleazenation
11:27 / 29.01.06
I loved Powerpack when I was 7 or 8 - it was a back-up strip in Return of the Jedi comic in the UK...

Outside of that Calvin and Hobbes is also great.
 
 
Spaniel
12:24 / 29.01.06
Just to broaden the the discussion a bit, what don't you want your kid reading, and why don't you want them reading that stuff? I only ask because I had no one filtering what I read, and looking back I'm really grateful for it.

I appreciate that those were different times in that there were probably fewer comics containing adult content (sex, realistic or pornographic violence), and that those that did were reasonably clearly signposted, but some of the stuff I was reading was pretty edgey. 2000AD, for example, was punk in comic form. It was scary, nihilistic and much more violent than, say, the vast majority of popular American comics. It was also fantastically imaginative, innovative, politically conscious, humourous and featured some pretty out there art that never failed to bend my 9 year-old head, but, ya know, in a good way. Amongst many other things, it introduced me to racial conflict, politically motivated abuses of power, the concept of law (and issues of jurisprudence), environmentalism, the anti-hero and the deconstruction of the heroic narrative. Through 2000AD I had my first exposure to Alan Moore and Grant Morrison, along with numerous other talented and thoughful creators. 2000AD also spurred me to pick up other British comics like Scream - a wonderfully imaginative, surprisingly nasty (if not particularly graphic) horror anthology comic, that fuelled my fantasy life for pretty much the length of its run. And later books like Crisis - a "mature readers" book that tackled global poverty, political corruption and, again, the abuse of power - and Revolver - the comic book companion to the rave scene, which augmented my teenage interest in psychedlia and surrealism.

My point is that I think that 2000AD actually did me a lot of good, even if it did sometimes scare and disturb me, and even if it did expose me to adult themes and grown up issues that might've been a little beyond the scope of my nascent mind.
I'm not trying to tell you that you should let your son read any old thing, but I think you should check any knee-jerk impulses. He might just benefit from being a little freaked out.

Of course, ask me again in a few years, once my soon-to-be-child is old enough to sniff around my comic collection, and I might have a very different opinion.
 
 
Shrug
12:47 / 29.01.06
Seconding the Calvin and Hobbes recommendation, really you can't go wrong with it.
But 'lula you should get him Morrison's run on New X you're depriving him of some really good comics if you don't!
There are probably alot of x-men trades that aren't too graphic but yet provide high drama. Plus there's that pretty nifty underlying ideology of tolerance presented by Xavier's Dream.
Alternatively if you want to freak him out about the horrors of war for no particular reason let him read Charley's War.
 
 
sleazenation
12:59 / 29.01.06
I think 2000AD is an interesting case on the grounds that it started as a kids comic but has more or less explicitly grown up with its audience. While to many (including those who occasionally stock the comic) 2000Ad is still notionally a kids comic - even though readership demographics routine place its readership as agiging and consistin mainly of people in thier late 20s to mid 40s...
 
 
FinderWolf
13:11 / 29.01.06
There are still paperbacks of the 'old' Dini/Timm animated comics out there - Batman Adventres and Gotham Knights - which were really terrific. I gave some of these to my then-7 year old cousin and he loved them, got him more into comics than he was before.
 
 
Spaniel
13:15 / 29.01.06
I'm not actually advocating picking up 2000AD. I haven't read it for years, and have no idea what it's like these days.
 
 
CameronStewart
14:37 / 29.01.06
Is it self-serving for me to recommend Seaguy? Despite coming out under the Vertigo label and having a terribly-inaccurate "mature readers" tag on it, there's nothing in Seaguy that I wouldn't show to an 8 year old. Grant and I always intended it to be a weird all-ages book.
 
 
Axolotl
15:50 / 29.01.06
Olulabelle: I reckon you're probably safe with the old Spiderman reprints, there's nothing in them that can really be considered adult. Later on there's some fairly innocuous drugs references, but nothing that you wouldn't see on the news.
As for why Marvel Ages suck, they're basically re-writes of the classic stories that don't really add anything to the re-telling.
Depending on your personal views and your kid's level of maturity you could probably give him Ultimate Spiderman. There's nothing in them I can think of that is unsafe for kids, though they are probably the equivalent of a PG movie.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
20:41 / 29.01.06
Yeah, certainly the first 4 or 5 Essential Spiderman books are perfectly fine.

You'll find nothing averse in the recent reprints from D.C. Showcase presents J.L.A., Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Metamorpho, and Superman. They are dated to the point of hokey but still great reads. The Green Lantern one might be a good place to start as it's cheaper but also because it starts with shorter stories for the kid to learn his comic reading skills before the longer tales. Plus it's Hal, and Sinestro, and Star Saphire, and Hector Hammond, and you know, all that silver age goodness.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:09 / 29.01.06
Just to broaden the the discussion a bit, what don't you want your kid reading, and why don't you want them reading that stuff? I only ask because I had no one filtering what I read, and looking back I'm really grateful for it.

I mainly don't want him to be reading a comic and suddenly be faced with a drawing of a huge pair of bare breasts or similar sexual content (however well drawn)! He is after all only eight.

There isn't anything I particularly don't want him to read and in fact 200AD sounds like something I would probably encourage him to read. What I really, really don't want him to read is mind-numbing 'kiddie' cartoons, pointless action figure tie-ins and the general clap-trap that is so often fed to kids these days. I want things with reason behind them and point to the story. Personally, I think Pokemon is pretty pointless, but I would encourage him to read say, The Fantastic Four, because there are things for him to learn within the story and it also actually has a story!
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
02:57 / 30.01.06
What is it about Marvel Age that sucks?

The same problem most comic boopk companies give to books aimed at kids: They shove the assignment off on to people who are just starting in the industry and have no concept of how to really put together a comic that works. Most of the Marvel Age comics have been updates of old Lee/Ditko or Lee/Kirby books (which were aimed at kids in the first place), so they suffer from being poorly done retreads.

DC, for a time, got it right with their "Batman Adventures" and "Superman Adventures" by bringing in solid talent who weren't slumming or just grabbing a check between production jobs. The first 12 issues of Superman Adventures are some of the best Superman comics I've ever read because they were written by Scott McCloud.

Currently, the kids books I am digging on are the Little Lulu reprints from Dark Horse. There are fewer dated references than I thought, and the stories are entertaining and filled with a child's view of the world with imagination that is hard to find in modern comics.

Ghods, I feel like an old geezer, but the American market has all but given up on kid's books, other than a few token attempts that fail because they are half-assed....then the publishers say that kids don't want to read comics. I think the sales figures on Shonen Jump proved that boring old arguement wrong.
 
  
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