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What's your favorite conspiracy theory?

10:36 / 25.01.06

I just recently heard of David Icke's "reptilian humanoid shapes-hifters ruling the world" conspiracy theories (from those who haven't heard of it, follow the white rabbit through this link: I am not crazy!! ). I'm not saying I believe in it, but it sounds cool, and it certaily explains Georgy Bush's lack of human expression...

Anyway, it got me curious: what other theories are out there that try to explain why the world is, ans always hass been, knee-deep in shit? Anyone got a favorite one (regardless of being a believer or not) to share with the rest of us, paranoids?

20:39 / 18.04.06

One of the most ridiculous conspiracy theories I have read (outside of Icke’s world) is this one about Majestic 12 When I first came across it I believed (for 10 seconds) that I was reading something almost credible, but as soon as I got past the first few paragraphs it became clear that this was an example of what can happen when people spend to much time watching films.

Apart from the overwhelming lack of any evidence to support the Majestic 12 theory, the one thing that strikes me about this and other conspiracy theories is that IF these theories are true about aliens or lizard peoples running the world in league with the government... then how come some kid is allowed to expose the conspiracy with a website?

Governments are just not smart enough to do anything without fucking it up; they cannot even wage a secret aggressive war for oil without blowing their cover.

20:44 / 18.04.06

I just read a good article about the Elvis is Alive conspiracy. I'm not saying it was convincing, but it was certainly entertaining. Having said that, I heard an excellent piece on the radio about the supposed murder of Kurt Cobain, and I have to say, for a conspiracy theory, it certainly sounded very credible.

There are no lizards. Please return to your regularly scheduled life.

20:49 / 18.04.06

Linked this before, but it's worth a read

21:01 / 18.04.06

I think there's a conspiracy to bump long-dead threads in Barbelith as of lately. But that's a conspiracy I like.

Carry on, my little paranoids...

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

21:03 / 18.04.06

I gotta say...the Hollow Earth is one of the best conspiracy theories of all time.

...mainly I remember it through a Mage:the Ascension LARP where a bunch of techno-saavy Mages staged a Spider Jerusalem-style media assault when the Technocracy, the evil conspiracy of mages who don't believe in magic, started rounding up the homeless to send to secret slave camps...

...and Kevin's character got on a conspiracy talk show and started talking about "repteloid androids from the Hollow Earth".

Damn. That was funny. He stood up and made this whole paranoid rant about it. It was GREAT.

23:18 / 18.04.06

I think there's a conspiracy to bump long-dead threads in Barbelith as of lately. But that's a conspiracy I like.

Carry on, my little paranoids...

What? Are you all blind? Don't you see that this 'barbelith' thing is a huge conspiracy in itself? Don't tell me you never thought about a subject, and had a thread about it bumped up or created in a matter of hours.

This board is crawling with long distance telepaths. They are intruding on my thoughts, watching my every moves, sending me energy, and sometimes tickling the sole of my feet at night to make me post (when it isn't something worse).

They even made me fell out of bed once, and made me post a stupid comment that spanned at least three 100-replies threads. (Or maybe it was the Illuminati this time)

Worse thing is, I love it.

23:19 / 18.04.06

I DON´T believe, that Katie Holmes´ newborn baby is the Antichrist. Just because the father is a wellknown Scientologist, who declared he´ll eat the placenta to reporters, DOES NOT mean Suri will bring about the Apocalypse. That´s silly, really.

23:43 / 18.04.06

George W. Bush helped plan and execute 9-11 in order to increase
a) his approval rating (which at the time was at an all-time presidential low),
b) the military budget (a war-time economy is a good economy)
c) (which follows from b) oil prices
d) (which follows from c) his own personal fortune
e) (the most important) to increase the government's power to intrude and collect any and all information!

So... ridiculous, huh?

00:23 / 19.04.06

ok, but is he a reptile?

02:17 / 19.04.06

the thermite in the WTC one is pretty good, in that does answer some troubling questions quite well, but for all out lunacy, i'd have to go with David Icke.

The Return Of Rothkoid

04:59 / 19.04.06

Yeah. If only because Boxcar Willie is a key part of it all.

07:28 / 19.04.06

Whilst I think there is a lot of strong truth in Ill's link (and if you haven't read it and you're considering posting to this thread shame on you), I think it's worth highlighting the point that, imo at least, the reason conspiracy theories of the exotic variety are so popular is that they have a great deal of psychological appeal, in that they claim to make sense of a complicated and chaotic world, and that makes them very reassuring.

09:43 / 19.04.06

Teh PC Thugs. Best conspiracy evah.

09:55 / 19.04.06

Glad you liked the link B-bos. Read it and wake up, sheeple!

in that they claim to make sense of a complicated and chaotic world, and that makes them very reassuring.

That is entirely the reasons for David Icke's success. I'd add as someone with an interest in TEh oKKult, that this is another reason for his success - the "occult" stuff does refer to a "real" (alright, "real-ish") realm of our experience, and Icke presents a route into some of this (albeit in an very limited way), makes it seem cool and exciting, and privleges and empowers the reader.

09:57 / 19.04.06

... I forgot to add I fucking hate David Icke for exactly those reasons. I think he's much more a "danger" than the Matrix Worrier thinking as well - look at his success.

10:02 / 19.04.06

from a freind's myspace posting:

"Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln 's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.

Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called ' Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland A week before Kennedy was shot, he was with Marilyn Monroe."

10:04 / 19.04.06

So it's not strictly a conspiracy theory, not totally a joke...

Kali, Queen of Kitteh

18:58 / 19.04.06

The real reason there are magnetic strips in American money. The unholy alliance between the government and banks.

Oh, I quite like believing Elvis is flipping burgers somewhere in Des Moines.

Ex

19:12 / 19.04.06

It's a bit out of date, and no offence to any catholics in the house, but I really really like the idea that Jesuits priests were infiltrating Elizabethan England as trained assassins, trying to kill the Queen on the orders of the Pope.

Assassin priests! Behind every doorway! The whole country was terrified. Apparently you could hardly get a bed for the night in an inn without being strip-searched for rosaries and turned over to Walsingham.

Sadly, the book I read which told me about this conspiracy theory also debunked it so hard it's still bruised.

Killer monks!

19:22 / 19.04.06

I'm a bit of a Hollow Earth fan (on the weekends). I'm especially fond of the short "credibility" lecture on the subject delivered by Professor* Frank Baxter at the beginning of the 1956 John Agar vehicle The Mole People. "Down, down, down..."

*a professor of English, as it turns out.

20:19 / 19.04.06

It's a bit out of date, and no offence to any catholics in the house, but I really really like the idea that Jesuits priests were infiltrating Elizabethan England as trained assassins, trying to kill the Queen on the orders of the Pope

I was raised as Catholic (no offense taken), and my home city (São Paulo) was founded 450+ years ago by jesuits who built a mission to evangelize the poor heathen natives.

Assassins? Maybe a bit of a exageration to justify denying freedom to Her Majesty's subjects (sound familiar? I'll help: "WAR ON (blank)"), but the Jesuits were trained as spies and diplomats. Most of their work was done outside Europe though, like America, Africa, and Asia, under the auspicies of the long late Portuguese Empire. Hell, they were banned from Japan - and Christian were persecuted and killed there - because of their unendind plotting. So, it's not so far fetched a theory at all.

Jawsus-son Starship

16:16 / 20.04.06

It's gotta be the Alternative 3 theory - the best brains in the world have got together to make a colony on Mars to get away from the poloution while they still can. It was a mockumentary made by Anglia TV in the 1970's, but Amercians think it's the real deal.

16:35 / 20.04.06

I've had a soft spot for Icke's crazy, crazy theory ever since I found out he reckons Kris Kristofferson is one of the lizards. Because obviously when placing your sleeper agents to control the world you need a b-list* country singer in there.

*I like him, but he is somewhat of an also-ran.

17:19 / 20.04.06

John Tesh is an alien. Dunno if they're serious, but they're goddamn funny. They even protested at a Tesh concert in Detroit a few years back.

18:54 / 20.04.06

One of my personal favorites is the The prison camp/ alien transceiver that exists under the Denver International Airport.

Happy Dave Has Left

19:19 / 20.04.06

Oh man, you guys need to check out Pentagon Strike if only for the creepy music

19:51 / 21.04.06

I love almost all conspiracy theories, just get completely sucked into the worlds of the theorists and treat them as though they are great fiction, or true and we are screwed.

Picking a favourite would be tough, I do like the idea of the big con though - keeping people affraid making them easier to control.

And a friend is convinced that the middle class nouvae riche are part of a big scam to create a buffer to stop the working and lower classes from hating the aristocracy, giving a group a little taste of the money, but only on the understanding that they are rude as hell and miserably people