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Secret DNA database

 
 
All Acting Regiment
10:14 / 21.01.06
Here's the BBC story. Apparently the people who's DNA has been stored have never been cautioned, charged or convicted- what do we make of this?
 
 
sleazenation
14:07 / 21.01.06
I don't think any of this is new... but it is rightly newsworthy

This has been part of building up a DNA database by stealth... not just of juveniles, although the case thart brought this to the newsdesks involves a juvenile, but of everyone. As I understand it, it not out of the ordinary for the Police to take DNA samples from anyone who becomes involved in one of their inquiries. I don't think that there is as yet any requirement on the Police to destroy that data once it has been used in the initial inquiry. Thus, entirely innocent law abiding citizens are routinely going to end up on the police's DNA database.

Such databases have their uses... a BBCnews 24 report highlighted the case of an innocent man who's DNA was on the database. His DNA showed a partial match to that of a mystery rapist helped. This partial match enabled the Police to track down the rapist whom, it turned out, was a relative of the innocent man...

But yes, while this technique has its uses I am not happy with the idea of a database being assembled by stealth. If such a thing is going to happen it needs to be done in the open and, preferably, put to the public.
 
 
sleazenation
15:42 / 21.01.06
So yeah, I don't think you can really say that this was secret as much as it wasn't publicised...
 
 
Tryphena Absent
16:38 / 21.01.06
It probably needs to be legislated around to ensure that no one can misuse the information but I can't see a specific reason why it's a bad idea.
 
 
Axolotl
17:29 / 21.01.06
It's like CCTV. Not necessarily a bad idea, but it does tend to alter the relations between the individual and the state. It's done on the basis that the state has the right to that information in all cases, not just when you're a suspect in a criminal investigation. I reckon that the government should try and limit it's surveillance on citizens unless they have good cause, not just keep tabs on everyone "just in case".
For example in Japan, iirc, they keep a database of all DNA information the police ever obtain, no matter what the circumstances, so for example, they find your DNA in a shop that has been robbed because you were in the shop the day before they keep it on a database. If your name keeps cropping up, possibly due to no fault of your own, then I imagine it sets off warning flags.
And here the government has just taken it upon itself to start doing this, without any legislation or chances for public enquiry, which seems a little suspect to me. *adjusts tinfoil hat*
 
 
Olulabelle
20:31 / 25.01.06
Yes, whether or not it's a good idea, we should have an issue with the fact that it's being done in secret.
 
 
sleazenation
21:32 / 25.01.06
But Lula - is it really being done in secret? As opposed to being done without consultation...
 
  
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