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sigil question

 
 
paw
16:43 / 08.02.02
This thought has been nagging me for the last year and i thought I'd get it off my chest. Why is it always advised to forget about your sigil once it's launched? surely if you achieve gnosis through whatever method and the conscious mind shuts down thereby firing off your wish into the void then there should be no problem in obsessing about your desire if you want to?

p.s have any of youse actually kept sigil records? I'm thinking of keeping one although I'd like the advice of those who've been into this kind of thing for more than 12 months like i have. what kind of success, failure statistics did you accumulate? can anyone back up sherwin's claim in the 'book of results' that over the years he achieved more successes than failures?
 
 
cusm
18:00 / 08.02.02
By the aetheric model, casting your sigel is injecting your will into the larger chaotic energy system of reality, so that it might act independently to cause events or occur so as to fulfill its design. That's the chaos of chaos magick, that you insert an influence into a chaotic system in order to nudge it into acting in a way you desire.

When you think about a sigel, you are putting energy into it. As long as you are thinking about it, you have not released that energy into the Aether yet. It is still tied to you, through your connection to it. When you forget it, you cut the cord, effectively, setting it free to do its work independently of you. Otherwise, you are trying to do a different sort of sorcery, where your direct will causes change by your own power. Chaos sigel casting doesn't run on your power, its just launched on it. The sigel will find the path of least resistance to the goal, which is why the manner in which results manifest can very wildly from what you had expected initially.

The real point of it is, don't dwell on it. Crowley goes on about "lust for results". Its along those lines. I theorize it like this: when you dwell and fantasize about results, you eliminate that possible reality from manifesting, as it has already manifested within your own internal reality. So, let it go, and you'll offer less resistance for the effect to happen. Reality doesn't like to admidt that magick works. You have to pretend that you didn't mean for it to happen for it to work, sometimes.
 
 
Indigo
21:26 / 09.02.02
Yep - let it go. It can't do it's work until you free it to do so. Easier said than done when it's something you really want to achieve though.
 
 
Tamayyurt
13:04 / 10.02.02
A sigil record is a good idea though cause 1) you can keep sigils you particularly like. 2) every time your will is done you can write a little paragraph about how exactly it happen and how long it took. This works to add confidence to your charge and making future launches that much more powerful.
 
 
paw
20:03 / 15.02.02
impulsive lad have you kept a sigil record? if you did what kinda results did you get?
 
 
Naked Flame
09:13 / 16.02.02
Another way of putting it is: a watched pot never boils. Ever sat waiting for the phone to ring and it rings just when you stop actively waiting and potter off to do something else? That sort of thing.

It's only one way of working... if you find you can't let go of the sigil, try another method. I've found, though, that the more intense the energy at the moment of charging, the easier it is to let it go. I think it has something to do with raised energy levels taking you far enough beyond your regular state of consciousness that recall of the working won't easily occur. But I'm just guessing...
 
  
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