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A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens

 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
15:36 / 20.12.05
You've got until about the 26th of December 2006 to download the audiobook reading by Geoffrey Palmer in five parts from the Penguin website.
Alternatively read the text here.

This is the first time I've actually experienced the actual story rather than one of the film versions. I'm about halfway through the Ghost of Christmas Past sequence. The one thing I wasn't prepared for was how funny Dickens can actually be, the only books I've read have been the fun fests that were 'Little Dorrit' and 'The Old Curiosity Shop' but 'A Christmas Carol' has jokes in it, unlike the films, where the jollity is created by making Scrooge's miserness ridiculous.

At the same time Dickens is master of the tragic, by the time Marley arrives to launch Scrooge on his journey you sense that, for all his protestations to the contrary, Ebeneazer is also aware of this, he knows he must change or die, he doesn't like being the skinflint bastard he is, it's just his defense against a hard life, and he needs to break out it but never knew how. Again, this is something the films don't really portray properly.

Anyone else got opinions on this?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
04:24 / 21.12.05
The one thing I wasn't prepared for was how funny Dickens can actually be

This was what really took me by surprise when I was doing my A levels and we had to read Great Expectations- my expectations weren't that great, to be honest, and I was expecting something a lot drier. A few pages in, and I'd completely lost that particular notion.
 
 
Jack Fear
12:09 / 22.12.05
What I'm finding amusing and horrifying, on this rereading, is the way the contrasting sociopolitical views play in a modern context.

Look at Scrooge's hateful rhetoric towards the poor, his I-pay-my-taxes rant about the Poor Law and the workhouse system. Scrooge is a stand-in for Establishment values of Dickens's day, of course. But a look at a few right-wing websites (and I've been reading some lately, for my sins) shows that Scrooge's attitude falls almost-squarely within the American conservative mainstream in 2005.

But the alternative Dickens presents—the we-fortunate-few handout/Christian-benevolence scheme advocated by the two merry gentlemen—seems hopelessly outdated. It's naive, patronizing, and unsustainable, and utterly fails to address the underlying socioeconomic issues of chronic poverty. At best, it's a Band-Aid on a sucking wound, and in 2005 we're able to recognize this.

In other words: since Dickens's day, progressive politics on poverty have really, well, progressed, while conservative attitudes have barely budged since at least the 1860s.

Anyway: Lady: Yeah, it's remarkable how Dickens makes Scrooge so hateful in one sense, but has us rooting for his redemption—never lets us forget that there is in everyone something worth saving. The constant references to cold and winter about Scrooge—the idea that there must have once been a springtime in his life, that there must have once been fire in his soul, crushed and damped by time and circumstance and the larger societal pressures. Hisis thefinal triumph of the story—not just that the saintly Tiny Tim was spared, but that Scrooge was saved.

Dickens introduces him using the word "sinner," and (as his Victorian audience) surely knew) we are sinners all. The bond of kinship is there from the start. And if such a one as Ebenezer Scrooge can be saved, then there is hope for all of us.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
15:28 / 22.12.05
Isn't the problem with the progressives of Dickens time more that there were so few of them, and the prevailing view of the time was that it was the poor's fault that they were in that position, poverty, or poverty combined with starvation and/or illness were divine retribution for being a sinner? Hence in Bleak House, Dicken's famous "Dead, your majesty" speech?

These days we have conservatives trying to turn people back to thinking that way, with slow but increasing success, and events like Children in Need and Band Aid, sticking plasters certainly, but larger bandages than what was managed in Dickens time.

Listening through this podcast has made me think that maybe I should approach stuff I find difficult to read like Dickens through audiobooks first.
 
 
Jack Fear
17:11 / 22.12.05
Mm. Much of the difficulty comes, I think, in the syntax—the elaborate construction of his sentences can obscure the actual ideas, leaving you unsure where to focus your attention. In a reading, the ideas jump right out at you and the twisted scaffolding becomes so much white noise.

Without a doubt, the progressives of Dickens's day were outnumbered by the reactionaries: 'twere ever thus. Still, to hear young Fred Scrooge—one of the good guys, mind you—exclaim that

[Christmastime is] the only time I know of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of creatures bound on other journeys

...well, Fred's heart is certainly in the right place, but he could (to the modern eye) do with a bit more consciousness-raising.
 
  
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