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Advice on magick for overcoming fear

13:46 / 30.01.02

Basically I'm looking for advice on making sigils/ spells/ rituals for kickstarting one's love life again. I'm coming up to nearly 2 years of involuntarily celibacy. This started after I managed to fuck up a long term relationship with someone I really cared about and since then I've been sorta scared of every person I've been attracted to since. Anyway what worked for me in the past doesn't any more and my hormones are driving me up the wall these days so I'll welcome any positive ideas.

14:39 / 30.01.02

Sigils are a bad idea for anything you're currently obsessed with as the 'fire and forget' rule is hard to follow when you're, y'know, ganting for it.

Possibilities:

working to remove obstacles to forming relationships. could include some kind of visualisation of your ideal loverself perhaps.

working to meet interesting attractive new people who would be open to sharing a little shagitude.

or, if you're feeling sure about wanting a relationship relationship, some kind of twin-soul beacon?

decide what it is you really want. the rest should be a fairly easy feat of imagination. and if you don't know what you want yet, might I suggest you work for the self-knowledge to figure that one out? would be a good first step... sometimes the only thing stopping you getting the answers is not asking the right questions.

Good luck

16:35 / 30.01.02

This may not be the right place to say this, but, Better than usng magic or runes to force reality to your desire, you should ask youself if you are doing smething wrong with your life and desires.
Face your self. Meditate. Understand yourself through tarot. Understand yourself... Clear your way, and clear the way you see yourself. That's more important than using runes to bend other person's will.

peace

16:38 / 30.01.02

Maybe, first focusing on rituals, sigils, etc. to help you uncover and then rectify the internal and external causes of your current condition. Not to get you into another relationship, but to move yourself beyond the old patterns. Also, consider non-magical ways of addressing those patterns.

Once you've dealt with those issues then the relationships will come easier and stick around longer.

[ 30-01-2002: Message edited by: Lothar Tuppan ]

17:11 / 30.01.02

I shall not fear
Fear is the mind killer
Fear is the little death that brings about total obliteration
I will face my fear
I will permit it to pass over and through me
And when it has gone only I shall remain

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Less searchable M0rd4nt

17:23 / 30.01.02

No real input here- just wanted to say thanx for the thread. Overcoming fear is something I've been working on myself (and, no, sigils didn't help this time).

17:48 / 30.01.02

One of my Hermetic hobbies is the dissection and understanding of the workings of individual emotional responses. I stopped working in this area after I discovered that Peter Caroll already covered a lot of this well enough in Lieber Null, though I still pick at it from time to time as I disagree with some of his work on it, especilly with respect to fear and love.

The way I see it, Hate is not the opposite of Love, Fear is. This comes from different ideas that are called love. I'm really picking apart Love, but doing it inversely as a different approach.

Hate is wanting something to not exist very very much. Thus, it is the opposite of wanting something to be, or appreciating the existance of something. Its color of 'love' is more like Joy, as in "enjoying something". So by this, Hate is not the opposite of Love, its the opposite of Like.

Moving on, Love in another sense is unity with something, it being a part of you and you it. Familiarity. That which is familiar is comfortable. Why? Because that which is a part of you can not hurt you, for it is you. It is SAFE. So getting to the real point of this without further unresolvable digression into the nature of Love, Fear is in facing something unfamiliar, or something that is not a part of you, and thus unsafe. The fight/flight reflect is activated. Its the aversion/attraction emotional pole.

Going by this, a means to overcome fear is to make something familiar. Understand it, associate with it, experience it. In short, bite the bullet and face it until you realize that it is not going to hurt you. When you understand this and this knowing has become a part of you, you will have moved beyond fear.

There's my theory bitching on it, anyways. I hope you find some help in that.

20:11 / 30.01.02

MC- a visualised casting of a pentacle of silver light around me works for me every time I find myself fearful. It's my generic day to day passive protection. Doesn't address the root causes of said fears, but you gradually get into the habit of not feeling scared in situation x y or z. Also, from yoga, holding an inner smile: smile in the belly (or go wandering off grinning like a loon, that works too)

20:19 / 30.01.02

Ugh, wish I had more time to post. Basically,

Fear profits a man Nothing.

20:52 / 30.01.02

Another approach might be to do things that are unfamiliar to you. Get used to the fear associated with that.

Remember, though, that although it seems that something that is a part of you cannot hurt you, it actually can.

11:32 / 31.01.02

Thanks a lot for the advice. Would anyone be interested in a thread about what you fear or would I just be rehashing old territory at this stage?

11:38 / 31.01.02

Fear the Dolphins for one day they will rule the Earth !!!

*excuse me*

I got some NLP tapes and there's lots of stuff on there that would be useful I'll post it up when I get a chance, very useful stuff on it about gaining confidence and overcoming fears and phobias....but bringing it up on magick thats a whole nother topic that I'm going to start right now !

11:44 / 31.01.02

I'm actually very confident in any aspects of my life apart from that one little quirk .. but that's the one that gets me down these days. Cheers

14:54 / 31.01.02

if you want to try nlp, which as others have said is a very powerful, practical form of magick go to www.neurosemantics.com. look in the books section and you'll come across a book called 'games for 'mastering fear: how to play the game with clam confidence'

14:57 / 31.01.02

sorry thats 'calm' confidence. i don't think you'll want the confidence of a clam but who knows

15:01 / 31.01.02

p.s drzener where abouts in ireland are you? i'm from up north myself.

18:20 / 31.01.02

I've been living in Co. Kildare since I came back to the country(about 3&1/2 months). I was born up north myself and all my family are from there but I grew up down here. I really fucking hate the town I live in though.

Good Antlerhead

01:58 / 03.02.02

Flame, can you post more info about that "Smile-in-the-Belly"? I guess no more info is really necessary, but I'd like to know, at least, the source for it.