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David Icke and article about energy build-up in the universe

 
 
FinderWolf
08:59 / 30.01.02
What, if anything, have people heard about this David Icke character?

A friend who's into conspiracy theory stuff just gave me one of Icke's books, and it's interesting stuff, to say the least.....many facts and valid points mixed with a lot of conjecture about the Illuminati and Freemasons beings ruled by descendants of a hybrid race of humans and reptilian aliens.

He basically says that all the most powerful people in the world (leaders of world superpowers, the Clintons, the Bush family, Reagan, Gore, Tony Blair, and so on) are Satanists who are human-reptilian hybrids, and maintain their power through ritual child abuse, magick and human sacrifice. It sounds totally nuts, I know.....I'm not quite sure what to think of all his theories. I lean towards not believing them at all (the reptile parts, the other observations he makes are more reasonable and factually-based), yet you hear about all of the Freemason stuff that is fact, the CIA mind-control experiments, and all the other crazy stuff that is in this world, and one wonders.

Meantime, I found this article at his website, which seemed interesting -- check it out. The article is about the build-up in energy in our solar system -- which seems to be in line with a build-up towards the famous 2012 event, whatever that will be.

>> RUSSIAN SCIENTIST SAYS THE SOLAR SYSTEM IS MOVING INTO A NEW ENERGY "ZONE" THAT IS TRANSFORMING THE MAGNETIC FIELDS OF THE PLANETS.
MORE CONFIRMATION OF THE THEMES IN DAVID ICKE'S BOOKS OVER THE LAST DECADE
Dear Friends,

The scientific report below is so strange that I was not prepared to believe it or send it out to you until I contacted my old friend, peace poet, writer and translator, Igor Mikhailusenko in Moscow to find out if the scientist named below is a respected individual or just some kind of a kook. I can't really investigate the science but the least I can do is ascertain the reliability of the scientist.

Igor reports that the man is well-known and respected among Russian scientists and therefore I pass on the very interesting report below. We have always looked on the sun as very permanent and unchanging. But in fact we have recently been reading American scientists' reports of much larger magnetic storms on the sun than ever before. Sunspots have become larger or more numerous or the like, but no explanation has been offered. Now we may have it. I've not followed solar activity much but left it to others, not understanding that it could affect our real world situations.

Now it seems that what may really be happening is larger than just sun spot changes. It may actually be as Dr. Dmitriev seems to suggest that the entire solar system is moving into a new area of the heavens where things are indeed different.

We've always known that just as our planet revolves around the sun and in doing that passes through different areas so there are more meteorites at certain seasons than at others, so also the sun itself with the entire solar system around it has an orbit of its own. Orbit ? That would suggest a center around which it revolves. I'm not sure of that, but it is clear that the entire solar system is not fixed in space. It must at least move with what some refer to as an "expanding universe".

So as it moves there is no reason to think that it cannot move into areas of different kinds of energy. Are these energies physical only ? What is the difference between physical energy and spiritual energy ? I have long believed that just as physical energy can be transformed into matter (e=mc square, a la Einstein), so also it seems likely that there is some similar relationship between spiritual energy (love) and physical energy. Well that is only my own intuitive feeling, but now we have some evidence that there really can be some vast changes affecting all the earth and all the planets at the same time. Whether the effect is physical only or also spritual remains to be seen and experienced.

Now Igor also deserves some credit here. Without his input, his assurance that this scientist is credible, I would not have forwarded the report that follows. From the age of 10 when he lost both legs during a Nazi air raid, Igor has been a poet for peace writing and traveling and publishing books dedicated to a meaningful spiritual change for the earth.

I"ve known him since 1984 and met him personally in 1986, brought him to the U.S. in 1987. There is no question of his sincerity and dedication to peace. However, since the end of Communism when disabled people were fairly well cared for, things have not gone well for Igor. But in recent times he has been given an old computer and is now able to do email with many people across the world. Though he cannot himself access the web with his old equipment, a friend has created a website for him. You can visit it with a click on http://www.aztecfx.co.uk/aa/igor/select.html . There you will learn about the books he is publishing in English.

That's how I found out that the scientific work which appears below is respectable. Please do visit his website and find out about his books. See the scientific report below. Peace and love, Art Rosenblum

Subject: Russian Scientist says planets' atmospheres are Changing

This is the Russian perspective on earth changes

Hard facts that are going unreported in America

The atmospheres of the planets are changing

Dr. Dmitriev's work shows that the planets themselves are changing. They are undergoing changes in their atmospheres

For example the Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before. The Mars observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash, because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as they calculated, and basically the wind on that little mirror was so high that it blew it right off the device.

Earth's moon is growing an atmosphere Also, the moon is growing an atmosphere that's made up of a compound Dmitriev refers to as ''Natrium.'' Dmitriev says that, around the moon, there is this 6,000- kilometer- deep layer of Natrium that wasn't there before. And we're having this kind of change in Earth's atmosphere in the upper levels, where HO gas is forming that wasn't there before; it simply did not exist in the quantity that it does now. It's not related to global warming and it's not related to CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions or any of that stuff. It's just showing up.

Magnetic fields and brightness of the planets are changing. The planets are experiencing sizable changes in their overall brightness. Venus, for example, is showing us marked increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter has gotten to have such a high energetic charge that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that's formed between its moon, Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken more

And the planets are having a change in their fields. The magnetic fields are becoming stronger.

Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled. Uranus's magnetic field is changing. Neptune's magnetic field is increasing. These planets are becoming brighter. Their magnetic field strength is getting higher. Their atmospheric qualities are changing.

Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts. When the Voyager 2 space probe flew past Uranus and Neptune, the apparent north and south magnetic poles were sizably offset from where the rotational pole was. In one case, it was 50 degrees off, and in the other case the difference was around 40 degrees, both of which are pretty big changes. The overall changes could essentially be broken down into three categories: Energy field changes, luminosity changes, and atmospheric changes.

Overall volcanic activity has increased 500 percent since 1975 On the Earth, we're seeing the changes even more completely. For example, Michael Mandeville has done research that has shown that the overall volcanic activity on the Earth since 1875 has increased by roughly 500 percent. The overall earthquake activity has increased by 400 percent just since 1973. Natural disasters increased 410 percent between 1963 and 1993.

Dr. Dmitriev did a very elaborate calculation of natural disasters. He showed that if you compare the years 1963 through 1993, the overall amount of natural disasters of all different kinds - whether you are talking hurricanes, typhoons, mud slides, tidal waves, you name it - have increased by 410 percent.

The Sun's magnetic field increased by 230 percent since 1901

There's a study by Dr. Mike Lockwood from Rutherford Appleton National Laboratories in California, who has been investigating the Sun. He has discovered that since 1901, the overall magnetic field of the Sun has become 230 percent stronger than it was before. More than just Earth Changes So, all in all, what we're seeing is a lot more than just what they call Earth Changes. Some people get into the idea that there is an interaction between the Earth and the Sun that's going on here.

Very, very few people are aware of the work that is being done in the Russian National Academy of Sciences in Siberia, specifically in Novosibirsk, where they are doing this research. They've come to the conclusion that the only possible thing that could be causing this energetic change all throughout the Solar System is that we are moving into an area of energy that is different - that is higher.

The glowing plasma at the leading edge of our Solar System has recently increased 1000 percent Now, check this out. The Sun itself has a magnetic field, of course, and that magnetic field creates an egg around the Solar System, which is known as the heliosphere. The heliosphere is shaped like a teardrop, with the long and thin end of the drop pointing in the opposite direction from the direction that we're traveling. It's just like a comet, where the tail is always pointing away from the Sun. The Russians have looked at the leading edge of this heliosphere, and they have observed glowing, excited plasma energy there.

This plasma energy used to be 10 astronomical units deep (an astronomical unit is the distance from the Earth to the Sun, 93,000,000 miles). So ten astronomical units represents the normal thickness of this glowing energy that we used to see at the front end of the Solar System. Today, that glowing plasma has gone to 100 astronomical units deep.

Although Dmitriev's paper does not give an exact timeline, we can assume that this increase happened in the same 1963 to 1993 period as the increase he found in natural disasters. Whenever it happened, that's a 1,000 percent increase in the overall brightness of the energy at the front end of the Solar System.

And this means that the Solar System itself is moving into an area where the energy is more highly charged. That higher-charged energy is in turn exciting the plasma and causing more of it to form, so you see more luminosity, more brightness. This energy is then flowing into the Sun, which in turn emits the energy and spreads it out along its equatorial plane, which is called the Ecliptic.

This in turn is saturating interplanetary space, which causes the solar emissions to travel more quickly and charge up the energy on the planets.

And this is conscious energy that is changing how the planet works, how it functions, and what kind of life it supports. The harmonics of the DNA spiral itself are altering. That's the real, hidden cause of spontaneous mass evolutions in previous epochs of time.

All this is happening all at the same time, and it's all working up to a crescendo where there is going to be a sudden shift. In other words, we will get to the point where we are so far into the new level of energy that there will be a sudden expansion of the basic harmonic wavelengths that the Sun emits as it radiates energy out of itself. This increase in energy emission will change the basic nature of all matter in the Solar System. The planets are pushed slightly farther away from the Sun and the atoms and molecules that make them up actually expand in terms of their physical size.

Peace and love,
Art Rosenblum,
Aquarian Research Foundation,
5620 Morton St., Philadelphia, PA 19144. Tax Exempt 501
Web: http://www.ic.org/aq
 
 
Ganesh
11:24 / 30.01.02
Oh Gawd, where to start...

Have you read Jon Ronson' book, 'THEM'? It's an interesting aupplement to any of Icke's turquoise-tinted work.
 
 
Sax
11:32 / 30.01.02
He's a former TV sports presenter.

He thinks he's the son of God.

He loves purple tracksuits.

He thinks the world leaders are really nine-foot tall alien lizards.

He's as mad as a bag of snakes.

Some of that may not be strictly to-the-letter accurate, but it's near enough.
 
 
Rev. Wright
11:34 / 30.01.02
Searchlight and Farshores, both semed to have plenty to say about David Icke's ideology. But links appear to be down (anyone help?)

A friend of mine (a Promethean member) that has looked into his work and met him, does say that his work is often secondhand, and he is not open to discussion of his topics. (Right man mentality?)
 
 
Bear
11:37 / 30.01.02
Regarding the end of the world 2012 - does anyone actually believe in this, anyone planning any major parties for the next 10 years?
 
 
Ganesh
11:38 / 30.01.02
Sax: purple tracksuits? Used to be turquoise...
 
 
Sax
11:42 / 30.01.02
Ganesh: You're probably right. Memory not too good on the colour schemes of shell-suited cult crackpots. Whatever colour they were, they definitely didn't go with that perm.
 
 
Ganesh
11:46 / 30.01.02
Perhaps it was a shellsuit of two halves.
 
 
KING FELIX
12:15 / 30.01.02
Well, there is a link I posted last in this thread, judging by that he seems to have an affinity for both colours.

Hunterwolf: Very interesting stuff, thanks.
 
 
Ganesh
13:41 / 30.01.02
quote:Originally posted by King Felix:
Well, there is a link I posted last in this thread, judging by that he seems to have an affinity for both colours.


Like the Joker.
 
 
Rev. Wright
14:45 / 30.01.02
quote: Regarding the end of the world 2012 - does anyone actually believe in this, anyone planning any major parties for the next 10 years?

I studied and worked with a Mayan Mystery school for a while (held a major meditation on the Michael and Mary Ley node in Bury St. Edmunds for the '99 eclipse), and from what I have gathered from the mayan's astronomy and maths 2012 is looking hot for some major esoteric action. Other predictions and sources also refer to this time, outside of the Mayan data.
I personally don't see it as an 'end', but rather change, like the Death card in Tarot. A new era, the Industrial Military Complex has been actively building towards this following the 11 yr solar cycle, ie. Gulf War, Afghanistan..... thats another thread.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:16 / 31.01.02
quote:Originally posted by Ganesh v4.2:
Oh Gawd, where to start...


Ha! You only disparage Icke because you took the blue pill! The Matrix has you- all of you! Did that blue pill make you feel all happy and safe? Did it? Take the red pill! YOU'RE SLEEPING AND YOU WON'T WAKE UP!!!
 
 
Bear
22:47 / 31.01.02
Yeah Will the Mayan thing was what I was thinking about, just seems a little weird planning out the future months and the winter solstice and then suddenly stopping at 2012....

 
 
FinderWolf
04:36 / 01.02.02
To devil's advocate about Icke, this is a Board full of people who discuss fucking godforms/thoughtforms, demonic entities, spirits, contacting deities, casting major and minor spells, astral travel, voodoo, precognition, and many other so-called 'paranormal' topics.....yet many here are saying Icke is a nutjob.

I'm not saying I believe all his theories - but his book is actually somewhat reasoned out, and I feel like to keep an open mind, I should at least entertain his theories as much as any others. Of course, with the paranormal/conspiracy stuff, anyone will have a hard time actually PROVING their theories. I.e. it's an interesting idea to speculate that the Illuminati/Freemasons are tied in to the UFO and UFO abduction phenomenon. And many people have already theorized that modern man is a result of extraterrestrial cross-breeding from centuries ago.

And Grant Morrison wrote about alien abductions in THE INVISIBLES -- even said he experienced one (of a sort), and we didn't call him crazy :P

Once again, just devil's advocating in good fun and a sporting spirit.
 
 
Sax
05:46 / 01.02.02
Yes, but Grant Morrison never played in goal for Coventry City. That's why David Icke has no credibility round these parts. I can spend ages reading the Magick (although I rarely post) but Icke just makes me laugh.

Now, don't tell me May Tricks used to play in defence for Norwich...
 
 
Ganesh
07:30 / 01.02.02
quote:Originally posted by Mordant C@rnival:


Ha! You only disparage Icke because you took the blue pill!


No, it was turquoise.
 
 
Sax
07:53 / 01.02.02
I'm sure it was purple.
 
 
higuita
14:06 / 01.02.02
What happens if you're colourblind?
 
  
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