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Starting a new religion

 
 
Jub
11:51 / 09.12.05
I'm thinking of starting a new religion because the ones that already exist aren't quite to my liking.

Not really sure of the best way of going about it - so if anyone has any tips and advice they'd be greatly received. Has anyone on Barblith helped create a religion before? Was it one of the good ones? Let's get this straight - I'm not really interested in cult level numbers or even something as big as a fair-to-middling Christian demonination - I'm looking for the BIG score. A major world religion to rival and eventually takle over the big 6.

Does anyone know of any good books or links that might help? I'm also after some commandments and legends/fables to help get me started - think creation myths and moral systems etc. If your idea gets used I will automatically grant you high preist/ess status so get your thinking caps on!!

ta.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:59 / 09.12.05
At the age of 10 I became the High Priestess of Anostia. My brother was the Low Priest, my friend Vicky was the Middle Priestess. We worshipped trees. Our symbol was a tree surrounded by a circle. That's actually all I can remember but I hope it's helpful.

Should you wish to revive Anostia I will expect to be reinstated as HP and as the founder of Anostia I will expect 39% of all earnings.

Thank you.
 
 
lord henry strikes back
12:20 / 09.12.05
Well if you're looking for fables I've always thought that the most important, especially as regards religion, is the one about the emperor's new clothes.

In terms of more general points if you could somehow mix the spectacle and grandeur of the old testament with some egalitarian principles and moral relitivism i think you'd have something that I'd be well up for.

Best of luck.
 
 
Quantum
14:03 / 09.12.05
Make your followers pay you for enlightenment.
 
 
Spaniel
14:14 / 09.12.05
Hmm, I'm not too sure about starting a religion myself but I think you should check out what this guy



has to say about it
 
 
Spaniel
14:15 / 09.12.05
'Specially if you want to get paid.
 
 
Sax
14:29 / 09.12.05
Or laid.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
15:18 / 09.12.05
I worship Sax. Does that constitute a religion?
 
 
William Sack
15:21 / 09.12.05
Of course not, Xoc, just impeccable taste.
 
 
Ninjas make great pets
15:31 / 09.12.05
well at least you've started right.

You've got a single word simple to remember name. (you should trade mark that now). You should maybe do what that guy did a few years ago? ..someone help me here.. they said he was a guru/healer got him on stage at a couple of huge gigs and pretended it was his mass events.. damn this goldfish mind.
 
 
electric monk
15:36 / 09.12.05
Bono?
 
 
SMS
20:05 / 09.12.05
A religion needs to be able to accomodate differing philosophical traditions within its overall framework (notice I didn’t say *all* philosophical traditions).

One of the really nice strands in early Christianity was the Sayings tradition. These are collections of sayings understood by Jesus’ followers to be in line with the Jesus’ teachings. The entire Gospel of Thomas and the Q source are examples of these. Many of these Sayings have been said by people prior to Jesus (which leads many scholars to conclude that Jesus did not say them . That's odd reasoning, but they're religious scholars, so maybe I shouldn't be surprised).

So you might want to get a collection of Sayings together. They don't all have to be original, but I think many of them ought to be, and they don't need a framework or context, necessarily. They just need to be usable in different contexts.

You probably ought to consider what your theory of the church is. Do you want this to be strictly hierarchical? How would you like it organized? Do you want your religion to have its focus on the individual, the community, or something else? This is important to know because it will affect the way you need to do evangelism. If you have a strong community focus, you might find that you will retain your converts more easily but, as the communities form a cohesion, they may start to be over-cautious about new converts. On the other hand, if you are too individualistic, your converts' children may not stick around, and the project will be short-lived.

Perhaps you want to try another approach. Pick a small number of disciples to be a part of your inner circle, each very good evangelists but each with varying styles and theories-of-the-church. Send them out to spread your message, each in her own way, and see who does the best.

Include "Say Me" memes in your Sayings.

You need some rituals that represent something in particular but do so very symbolically, so that your disciples can find a rich meaning within each of them.

Within a short time after the formation of the religion, you need some brilliant thinkers that can develop a complex and sophisticated theology. This really shouldn't be you. These people will be influential and keep your religion engaged and alive, but you want people to be able to disagree with and engage these theologians. They cannot stand as a foundation for the religion.
 
 
SMS
20:10 / 09.12.05
Oh, and following your religion should not be easy. I mean, it shouldn't be impossible, but you need commitment, so you need to require that they demonstrate commitment early on. Come up with some requirements for the right-of-passage into your following. These requirements need to be serious, but your disciples need to have authority to judge whether they have been fulfilled because there's no way you can initiate billions of people on your own.
 
 
Evil Scientist
21:15 / 09.12.05
Hell, I'll be ruling the planet soon. Y'all may as well worship me too.

If not, then how about Church of the Shatner Reborn?
 
 
■
21:22 / 09.12.05
I can't get behind that.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:41 / 09.12.05
Sai Baba had a lot of things going for him, but...

...nah... that fake ectoplasm shit really turns a lot of people off.

What it's all about (and I've been planning a similar thing for years- well, I've really wanted a "cult" rather than a "religion"- I don't want this shit to take over the world, I just want disciples) is about isolation (lack of input from the outside world= lack of perspective on increasingly crazy ideas= people actually believing you no matter WHAT you say), power (well, y'know, power) and GUNS.

Every respectable cult has to have its own Armageddon. If God's not gonna do it, have a small-scale one. (cf Jonestown, Waco, Randy Weaver, etc...)

I'm not taking the piss. This is one of my ambitions.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
23:44 / 09.12.05
(Strange thing is, I don't like guns. But I KNOW they're important. God tells me so. So the extra rule would be- "get people who like and can use guns... and may God have mercy on your soul".)


SERIOUSLY... love, forgiveness and redemption are what religion needs. Well, what everything/one needs, really...
 
 
■
00:17 / 10.12.05
Mike from Spaced would be the ultimate religious leader. He knows and loves guns yet is a big softy who looks passable in Lycra. Evreryone else? I pity the fools.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
04:52 / 10.12.05
Himbirribimnabrimniri- wha? Oh that. Just the chanting of a thousand and twenty two followers I have on weeny pieces of string buzzing round my hat like Skippy,Skippy,Skippy's corks on his hat! Twenty pee, twenty pee! What! More parsnips, parson?

Bawubmb.
 
 
Captain Zoom
12:11 / 10.12.05
You should look at The Schwa World Operations Manual. I know when I read it I thought it was a pretty good instruction manual.
 
 
Quantum
13:51 / 10.12.05
Cult? Easy mate, check out join-me.co.uk, Dave Gorman's mate Danny started a cult about nothing and many many people joined, then it evolved into a good deed society- cool!
 
 
Quantum
14:01 / 10.12.05
Nina, I want to be an Anostian that sounds dead cool! It's the tree-worshipping time of year after all!
 
 
mondo a-go-go
15:09 / 10.12.05
"demonination" - in view of the subject matter of this thread, this is the greatest typo EVAR.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
22:40 / 10.12.05
Starting a religion is like rebooting a superhero title. You take some old character that hasn't done anything interesting or made any big numbers in a while and put a new spin on it. Also, you have to make sure you have a lot of enemies. It's the enemies that really seal the deal, people love that shit.
 
 
Tim Tempest
02:29 / 11.12.05
Your mom's a new religion.

That was really immature.
 
 
Benny the Ball
15:03 / 11.12.05
A guy I worked with at the begining of the year was really into Baba - he gave me a pen with his face on it, but it didn't work, and said that 'Baba said, 'you should not give advice'...but seemed pissed off when I said that this was in iteself advice being given.

If you want to start a religion, the trick is to be secretive about it at first, otherwise no one will want to join.
 
  
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