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Peter David's New X-Factor

 
  

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Cowboy Scientist
03:01 / 09.12.05
After reading the Madrox mini, I think this has a real potential for coolness.
 
 
Benny the Ball
06:41 / 09.12.05
Peter David's first run on X-Factor was fantastic, he made Madrox, Quicksilver and Wolfsbane actually interesting characters. But this was at a time when he was writing a lot of titles and seemed to be having a lot of good character ideas. I haven't checked his new Hulk, nor read the Madrox mini (I reallt like Jamie Madrox as a character though) so not sure what David's work is like at the moment, but will definitely get this to see. Plus the art looks very nice.
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:19 / 09.12.05
I remember a line from his original X-Factor stuff that had me chuckling.

Havoc (looking in a bodybag): "Yep, it's Jamie."

Paramedic: "You know this guy?"

Havoc: "No, I just like running up to random corpses and saying 'Yep, it's Jamie.'."

I look forward to this. His Madrox mini ruled the school like a disco-bison.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
12:35 / 09.12.05
Yeah, I'm quite psyched for this book, especially with a quality artist on board. The old XF fell apart for me after Stroman left.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:25 / 09.12.05
Ryan Sook rocks. The MADROX miniseries by David was ok but more like mediocre David...hopefully this will be a notch up in quality from that mini. David seems to be one of those writers who used to be really great and went into a semi-hackdom period (the past 5-7 years or so) where he didn't become a total hack and occasionally still busts out some good stuff, but has settled into more mediocrity as opposed to the utter hackdom and complete lack of quality of, say, Claremont and Byrne.

Maybe the end bits of YOUNG JUSTICE for DC was the end David's 'great/pretty good' period and the beginning of David's mediocre period. I dunno. His recent HULK run was mediocre and I never really cared about FALLEN ANGEL. His current Spidey work seems just ok.
 
 
Quimper
13:29 / 09.12.05
Preview pages look promising. Big spoiler contained within however. Go to buzzscope if you dare.

David's take on Jaime's dupes is just brilliant...each one taking a different aspect of Jaime's personality and bringing it to the forefront. He actually has to choose which dupe has the right demeanor for a particular task. Great stuff.

Can't wait to see him write M.
 
 
sleazenation
13:33 / 09.12.05
Yeah, I'm quite psyched for this book, especially with a quality artist on board. The old XF fell apart for me after Stroman left.

Yeah, after a few fill-ins by Jae Lee they replaced Stroman with some no-account hack called Quesada, wonder whatever happened to him...
 
 
Aertho
13:42 / 09.12.05
Ha! I'm more interested in what the hell happened to Stroman. Last I heard, he joined Image and had a somewhat inspired translation of what the superteam fomula might be. "Tribe" I think... Kaput?
 
 
Aertho
13:48 / 09.12.05
David's take on Jaime's dupes is just brilliant...each one taking a different aspect of Jaime's personality and bringing it to the forefront

David wrote that? Before or after "Multiplicity"?

I thought the PAD X-Factor took a significant nosedive after the departure of Val Cooper. And then Random? Random? After the Genoshan X-Patriots and X-Cutioner's Song, it all just crumbled. Quesada's issues weren't that bad; he drew the Samson issue everyone loves.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:01 / 09.12.05
FYI, they just put the first 7 or so issues of David's original X-Factor run into a nice tidy paperback.
 
 
sleazenation
15:01 / 09.12.05
In addition to Tribe (One Image issue and one self-published issue IIRC) Stroman did the art on the first couple of issues of Darkstars along with Travis Charest... A more Jarring pairing of artists I have difficulty imagining...

(He also did an 8 page Syrin strip for Marvel Comics Presents... but that is really going into his career in great detail...)

On X-Factor...
I sure the X-Patriots storyline could have been interesting... unfortunately, office politics took over and David was removed from the title...

X-Factor really was my favourite X-title back in the day and can in many ways be seen as a fore-runner to Milligan and Allred's X-Force and X-Statix...
 
 
Mark Parsons
22:57 / 10.12.05
I liked MADDROX despite some slightly on the fly plotting (perhaps not a good tactic in noir whodunnit fiction). The humor and character beats were all great. Overall, it was a cool mini, which bodes well for the new series.

I'm a big fan of FALLEN ANGEL. I was not especially impressed at first glance, but the constant fan and critical hum about the book lead me to a second look, then being hooked. The series may be a slow burner.

Overall, PAD is a clever, canny and creative writer, plus he's funny as heel to boot.
 
 
rabideyemovement
03:11 / 11.12.05
By the way, Fallen Angel is being continued under the IDW Press label. He's also writing (shudder) SPIKE (yes, that Spike).
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:06 / 14.12.05
Well, shit, now I'm buying another X-Title again.

This was good. More thoughts probably when more people have read this. Sook's art is top-notch. It reminds me a bit of one of the better Shade the Changing Man storylines but in a completely different direction. Also: Rahne! Ha. Ha. Ha!

Looking forward to some in-depth work with these characters.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
18:22 / 14.12.05
Totally. And I did not see that last page coming in the least. I wasn't crazy about the Madrox series, but Sook totally sells it. Gorgeous looking, and legitimately surprising. Great book.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:29 / 14.12.05
I liked that the last page simultaneously came out of nowhere, but was built up from Page 1. Very good use of subtle foreshadowing.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:14 / 15.12.05
Strong thumbs up; it's refreshing to have a new X-title come out that's actually GOOD. Sook's art continues to be wonderful, well-matched with inker Wade Von Grawberger (formerly inking Tony Harris on STARMAN, I believe, years back).
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
16:21 / 15.12.05
I greatly enjoyed this. Ihad bought the first issue of Madrox but I missed an issue or two, so by the time number 4 came out I decided to just wait for the trade.

But when I saw this I was rather happy. Rictor was more interesting to me in this than he ever was with powers (though to be honest, I haven't read very many stories with him in them.) Jamie Madrox remains my favorite X-Man ever. Strong Guy!!!!!! Siryn! M!

Multiple Man rules.
 
 
Shrug
17:14 / 15.12.05
Will Jamie continue to struggle with his dupe's sexuality?

In the Madrox mini I liked:
1) How each dupe seemed to have its own distinct personality, or portrayed a facet of Jamie's personality.
2)That it made reference to specific dupes returning (being absorbed but then recalled with the same experiences and memories from their previous trip to the outside world)
3)That it left me wondering as to what the exact effect the murder of a specific dupe would have on Jamie because of 1) and 2).
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
18:33 / 15.12.05
Spyder: Rictor was more interesting to me in this than he ever was with powers (though to be honest, I haven't read very many stories with him in them.)

I liked that we actually got a bit of an exploration of his powers and how they worked, even if it was a bit of a post-mortem. I quite liked the hint of "evolutionary arrogance" on his part - not quite Magneto levels, but it seems natural that most of the "pretty" mutants would feel some of it, somewhere.

The fine-tuning/adjustments made to Siryn's powers make her more than just Banshee's Daughter, and I hope they foreground them more than the sonic scream. It also plays more effectively into her codename.

I liked the flashbacks into how Jamie got money to upgrade X-Factor; it was a fun counterpoint to Rictor's gloom and doom. Rahne on Suicide and Japan was hilarious - I like that the hints of X-Angst were all undercut or lampooned almost as they happened, but without undermining them completely. Fine line.

Guido's not doing anything for me, yet, but I've never been big on him.

Jamie reminds me of a recent McSweeney's article, Taking My Personal Demons Out to Lunch at the Olive Garden. Specially with the issue of ambiguous duplicate sexuality.

(And who can forget members of X-Corps France imagining Jamie writhing on silk sheets with himself...)
 
 
Aertho
20:04 / 15.12.05
Bisex Jamie huh?

Review:
Yeah! FUN! This is exactly what XSE or X-Corps or X-Men should have become after the gravesite kiss!

Does anyone have any idea why Professor Xavier would want to become a little girl?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
20:34 / 15.12.05
It worked for Cassandra, when she started over.

That said, it's creepy how much Sook's rendition reminds me of Misty from Zatanna. 'Course, that's just coincidence of character.
 
 
Aertho
23:12 / 15.12.05
M saves Rictor, Matrix-like. S'only thing that makes sense.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
00:57 / 16.12.05
See, I looked M up and she made no sense...is the whole "two-in-one" thing still canon? Does she have any actually interesting powers, otherwise?

Actually, the two-in-one thing could be interesting, in light of her working with a Multiple Man...
 
 
Aertho
01:11 / 16.12.05
M's a mess. If they bag the whole Gen X nonsense, and play her exactly as "Supergirl meets Veronica Lodge", we'll all be better for it.

I'd have liked M to have have revealed to have been the twins, thus M&M would've been her codename. Hard on the outside, sweet on the inside, and all that, but they ended up making her Penance, then not anymore, then Penance was someone else... and Synch died. For shame.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
05:22 / 16.12.05
I'm not a huge X-fan -never was, but maybe someday will be- but this tickled me. I dug the twist ending, after Zatanna I'm in love with Ryan Sook's art and yeah, Layla Miller did look a whole lot like Misty. Speaking of whom, she's meant to be Professor X, right? I mean, I read House of M, but what the dillyo?
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:48 / 16.12.05
That's an internet rumour. I think it's actually pretty unlikely seeing as Ed Brubaker has said that X-Men: Deadly Genesis will reveal the current status of Xavier, while Layla Miller is supposed to be a regular cast member of X-Factor.
 
 
Eskay Doss
09:15 / 16.12.05
This issue was a lot of fun, and Ryan Sook is damn good. His work on Zatanna, particularly #4, blew me away. I wonder how long before he gets moved on to something more high-profile at Marvel? Let's hope for a good run.

Anybody else notice Layla' panel-to-panel wardrobe change on the 3rd to last page? And is she the blonde on the cover? If so how'd she get so... big, and if not then who is that?

Layla as Prof. X?! In House of M, wasn't she revealed to be an aspect of the Scarlet Witch? A part of her that was splintered off to help make things right - a failsafe of sorts? Maybe I read that online somewhere, but I prefer that to the thought of Charlie X-dressing.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:17 / 16.12.05
Layla Miller ain't on the cover...that's Siryn.

It will be interesting to see Peter David try to make something worthwhile out of the deus ex machina character Bendis created for House of M.

Did Jamie Madrox have sexuality issues re: the dupes in the Madrox mini? It doesn't seem to be mentioned here in #1.
 
 
Shrug
19:25 / 16.12.05
Yep Finder he had a gay dupe.
 
 
sleazenation
21:27 / 16.12.05
Hmmmm it's been a while since i read David's first run on X-Factor but hasn't he completely changed his take on the multiple man?
 
 
Aertho
21:33 / 16.12.05
How do you mean, sleaze? I remember most of the All-New All-Different X-Factor, and never thought PAD really dove into Jamie as a character. 87 revealed restless sarcasm, some fear of loneliness, and the Legacy Virus thing was weird and felt like X-Factor was falling under the Hammer of Angstâ„¢. If anything, Madrox and this new X-Factor seems as an opportunity to really get into what makes a multiple man.
 
 
sleazenation
22:26 / 16.12.05
I read David as playing the multipleman, particularly during X-Factor issues 71-75 (the ones collected in the recent X-factor trade) as having numerous duplicates, each of which was equally as much Jamie as any of the others, as opposed to this current take that seems to have reinvested in the idea of a 'core' Jamie...
 
 
The Falcon
22:45 / 16.12.05
Yeah, I think the Legacy Virus stuff was DeMatteis tho', Chadders.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
03:43 / 17.12.05
As an aside, Sook draws Jamie with some heavy-ass eyeliner on. His Rictor looks peculiarly like a Chris Sprouse character.

I like the subtley on the cover with Rahne's hand wolfing up.
 
  

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