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Break-ins really suck.

 
 
Mono
14:41 / 06.12.05
i just posted in the Temple about this too, but break-ins really do stink. My place was 'done over' in the wee hours of Sunday night/Monday morning while everyone was at home and in bed. They came in through the garden & due to my recent insomnia, I was the only one to hear anything and herd them come in and go through the ground floor for a good 10-15 minutes before I realized it wasn't just a housematte going for a pee. I woke the SO and he jumped out of bed, went into the hall and turned on the light and we heard the fron door slam.

Not too much was actuallY stolen (my bag was emptied out onto the garden lawn & M's digital camera was taken) but all the cupboards and drawers were open, footprints on the carpet, etc.

We're all feeling creepd out by the whle thing. Especially the 'what ifs?'...wht if one of us went downstairs and bumped into them? what if the fron door was locked and they were trapped in the house with us?

It just really stinks...

anyone have any helpful advice?

thanks...
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
15:51 / 06.12.05
No advice about how to get over it. I have been broken into three times in the last year. The last time was about six months ago. I got an alarm system and did a few things to make the house more secure. It took me a while to be comfortable again, and not jump at every little sound.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:03 / 06.12.05
There is no advice, really, I guess. Other than guns. And while I think that's a great solution in my fantasy world, I'm not sure it's such a good idea in real life.

The only advice I can offer is (and I'm sure I've already said this in meatspace, but...) remember- THIS SHIT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME. There's no point in worrying about it until it does. Then all advice goes out the window, really...

(A few years ago I seemed to be a "mugger-magnet". That kind of sucked too- especially when the fuckers were about 12 years old).

Good thing is- you're all OK. I know it's cold comfort, but it could have been a lot worse.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:04 / 06.12.05
Actually, now I come to think of it, there IS advice...

Get a dog.

Everyone should have a dog.

Get a fucking dog.
 
 
Sekhmet
17:07 / 06.12.05
Dog is a good idea. Cheaper and more fun than a security system, too.
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
18:12 / 06.12.05
Yeah, I would have gotten a dog if I were home more. A dog is a great idea.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
18:42 / 06.12.05
Sorry to hear about this and yet glad that things didn't go worse. It is true that dogs are one of the world's best crime deterents. They just add that little element of uncertainty that criminals would rather avoid. I read somewhere that it is believed a human would rather hurt another human than an animal so it's believed by some that a robber would think twice about injuring a guard dog and just skip to the house with no dog. If it isn't very convenient/appropriate to actually own a dog,(because a dog's for life, not just burglaries y'know), creating the illusion of dog ownership is apparently quite effective. Dog barking alarm, beware of dog sign, that sort of thing. In our neighbourhood I hear of at least one house buglary per week over the last several months. One family two streets back from our's was burgled two Saturdays in a row! Isn't that too common? Perhaps a neighbourhood vigilante
watch is in order?
Mono, you can borrow Sachabelle from time to time perhaps. Lock down and keep your wits.
 
 
Grey Cell
18:48 / 06.12.05
Not too sure about the getting-a-dog thing. Dogs are great, but not necessarily for that reason.
Many pet dogs ultimately make poor guardians (hell, my aunt's crazy labrador would have made friends and gone with the people who last burgled her house, if they'd let him... and no, she's not treating him badly. He's just that nice). Even trained guard dogs will not stop a determined burglar - though they will probably keep the more opportunistic types away - or might get you sued if they do...

Guns are even worse in that regard, unless you shoot to kill - and even if you can and do, you'll probably have a hard time justifying what you did.

"Good thing is- you're all OK. I know it's cold comfort, but it could have been a lot worse."

Werd. It'll take some time to reclaim your space and feel at ease again, but ultimately they didn't take anything that can't be replaced.
 
 
Lilly Nowhere Late
18:58 / 06.12.05
See I thought my crazy labradour might be useless in regard to guarding until she did so recently. Still backing up my insistence that "dogs are for life..." however.
Dog sharing, maybe?
And apparently the poor-man's alarm of really loud jingly bells on ropes hung by windows, doors, gates, etc. works a charm of discouraging access burglars. Not the pros tho.
 
 
doozy floop
19:02 / 06.12.05
It can indeed take a long time to stop feeling creeped out - my family had their house turned inside-out and emptied of anything shiny or valuable about ten years ago, and my mother couldn't stop cleaning *everywhere* or hiding things for ages. She still does, in fact, although thankfully to a lesser extent.

Unfortunately I can't really offer any advice, as I was profoundly unaffected by the whole thing. I'm sure my mum would recommend trying to keep it in perspective as much as possible though. Bad enough having all the creepiness and alarm, without spending the rest of your life bolting doors behind you and keeping any special birthday presents in a bank vault.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:08 / 06.12.05
Ye Gods, Mono. That's terrible, and I'm very sorry. No advice to offer, really, only commiseration. When I was mugged, which is probably the closest analogue in my experience, it took me a while to get back into going out, and I had to push myself a bit. I guess that staying out is not an option, but maybe time spent doing quietly enjoyable things in the house - reclaiming the space, as mentioned above?
 
 
Sekhmet
20:26 / 06.12.05
I do grok the violated feeling. One of my most vovid childhood memories is of coming home from a family vacation and finding that our house had been burgled. I couldn't sleep for a week, and I doubt my mother could either.

How exactly did the fellow get in? Was the door left open, or a window, or did he break through something?

Locking your gates and doors is always a good start...
 
 
quixote
01:36 / 07.12.05
Nasty. We had a break-in once, by a burglar who left his cap behind. He was either an adult with a very small head or a kid. I don't know why the thought it could have been a kid makes me even madder. The good part was that we weren't at home, he missed all the good stuff (computers, CD player), took stuff we didn't really care about (VCR). Except for one thing: a lifetime collection of foreign coins from travels going all the way back to my grandmother's days in tsarist Russia. It's not like I need them for anything, and yet it still makes me angry and hurt when I think about them being stolen. I don't think about it often, but it's been twenty years.

A policeman of my acquaintance said the best burglar preventive is dogs. Trained is best, of course, but apparently just the barking usually puts them off, on the you-never-know principle.

The statistics say that gun owners are far more likely to be shot with their own guns than to use them successfully in self-defense, but a) statistics don't necessarily say anything about you, personally, and b) training in rapid use would change the equation.

I know it sounds like useless advice, but, really, don't dwell on it. Stuff happens. Horrible events can't be overcome sometimes, but burglary is just things, and things, if you come right down to it, you can live without.
 
 
Mono
05:40 / 07.12.05
thanks everyone!

i was tres creeped out when walking to the bus stop at 5am this morning, but all in all i think we'r feeling a little better abou the whole thing.

the landlord came around to try and super secure everything, adding EVEN MORE locks to the doors and nailing shut the window that the evil dudes came through (it was locked, but i guess they knew what they were doing). we also now haveone of those annoying motionsensitive security lights in the garden. it keeps going off when leaves blow by.

thanks again everyone. i'm not sure if the fact that everyone i know has had a similar experience id comforting or even more disturbing...
 
 
Brigade du jour
10:50 / 07.12.05
I'm really sorry to hear about all this, Mono. Our place in Streatham was broken into about four times in two years, and what I did was move out. Not sure how practical that would be if I offered it as advice to you, but there it is.

Plus, I found that the break-ins made me way less possessive about ... well, possessions. Which is probably a good thing. Of course, it doesn't help with the psychological trauma, but maybe it would provide some small comfort.
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
13:54 / 07.12.05
Like many instances of crime that violate your personal space the key to swift recovery is twofold. 1) Take measures to prevent a reccurence and 2) get back on the horse. The only reason to stop your life is not doing step 1). As Haus expressed, getting back on with things can be scary, difficult and possibly creepy, drawing up some bravery isn't easy but it will restore confidence.

Another thing to bear in mind is that security is, and always will be a reactive measure.
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
17:33 / 07.12.05
Hey Mono, be careful about nailing the windows shut. That is one less exit you will have in an emergency situation. In the second break-in I had, they got in by forcing one of the windows open. The windows in my house were made in 1920 and the locks on them are of the same era. Due to years of use, some of them do not function properly.

I was looking for a cheap way to secure my windows since there are 24 of them in the house. What I came up with was to drill a hole through the top of the moveable lower sash half-way into the bottom of the top immoveable sash. I secured them with 3/8" diameter steel pins that I cut from a piece of steel bar I purchased at the local hardware store. The hole should be angled upward slightly towards the open end to avoid having the pin work it's way out over time. I left enough of the pin hanging out to allow easy and quick removal by hand. Should there ever be a fire, or other reason to evacuate the house through a window, I merely have to yank the pin and throw open the sash.
 
 
grant
17:45 / 07.12.05
Steel pins are all well and good, but this:



is better.

It's a basset puppy. They're small but have very big, deep voices.

And look at that face!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:49 / 07.12.05
Yeah, get a dog. I'll walk the bugger for you if that's an issue.
 
 
Cheap. Easy. Cruel.
18:36 / 07.12.05
grant, that face would make me feel better about the whole thing by the pitiful cuteness of the expression. Bassets are great dogs.
 
 
neukoln
20:42 / 07.12.05
I had an interesting experience when I was only 16. I'd just left home and was living in a stinking dive with my boyfriend. I was woken up by the cane blind falling down. Then I noticed a hand reaching in through the window, unlocking the door from the inside and opening it. Mr Very-Big-Man stood in the doorway. My extremely frightened boyfriend said* "What do you want? Go away." And would you know it... he did. He closed the door and walked down the back steps, and off he went never to return.

* In a voice, which I swear regressed back to a child-like squeak - and with the bedsheets pulled up to his chin (5 years before Withnail & I).
 
 
sleazenation
22:09 / 07.12.05
My break in prompted me to give up smoking in an attempt to replace the stuff that was stolen, so something good came out of it. Did stop me wanting to repeatedly hit the the turd that had broken in tho, but I'm quite an angry person...
 
 
Shrug
01:12 / 08.12.05
What everyone else has said; the worst thing about it is the invasion of your personal space by an unwelcome other. Reclaim it, buy a dog and don't worry it's unlikely to happen again soon.
You will begin to feel better about it in time, I'm sure.
 
  
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