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What traditions are you heir to?

 
  

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Mirror
13:37 / 30.11.05
So, last weekend I was out hunting elk with my father, and I got to thinking about family traditions - not so much of the grandma's-lace-doilies variety, but more in the way of professions or other activities that are central to one's lifestyle.

My (patrilinial) family has hunted for its meat ever since emigrating from England four generations ago, and we have a line of miners (or, in the modern era, geologists) that goes back farther than that. Somehow, knowing this history makes doing these things seem more important than most of what I do on a day-to-day basis. I didn't feel this way so much when I was younger, but tradition has become progressively more important since I've become an adult.

So, what strong traditions have come down to you from your ancestors, and how do you feel about them?
 
 
Jub
14:15 / 30.11.05
So, what strong traditions have come down to you from your ancestors, and how do you feel about them?

A penchant for sarcasm?

Nothing as barbaric or tangible as killing animals I’m afraid. I suppose the biggest family traditions revolve around the consumption of alcohol. Boring jobs in the family mean children never follow parents occupationally – except, that is that we end up in boring jobs. I kind of know what you mean from a non-family way, ie burning an effigy of that Catholic Terrorist Guy Fawkes. Yeah! That rocks. To think little Englanders have been doing that for 400 years. I suppose the reason tradition becomes more important as one grows olde is that as you become increasingly aware of your own mortality you want to be part of something that will last forever.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
14:40 / 30.11.05
Hmm. My patrilinial side goes back to one of the presidents of Chile, circa 1905, hence the existence of some islands named after the family just off the coast of Tierra del Fuego (with penguins/trout/gun emplacements galore). Before that one of my ancestors led the Spanish Armada. And I quite like the sea, I suppose- but not in a conquering imperialist bastard way. I also had an airfix gun emplacement when I was ten.

I'm not really getting this thread, am I?
 
 
grant
14:51 / 30.11.05
I often feel more satisfaction with my work than I should because I'm (sort of) a journalist. One of my pen names is Greg Warwick.

My father's a journalist (mostly celeb scandal), and one of his pen names is Jan Warwick.

His father was a journalist (and sportscaster), and one of his pen names was Hugh Warwick.

His father was involved with newspapers, too -- helped introduce color printing (and thus, the Sunday funnies!) to South Africa. I don't know if anyone called him Warwick or not, but he looked dashing in golf knickers. (The knee-length pants, you creeps.)

It's kind of interesting to me that my mother's side of the family is MUCH more concerned with Family Things (they print a hardback register of the family tree, have biannual international reunions, much drama over who's in what position of power and who gets to keep which name), but the first "family tradition" thing I think about is what my dad did and his dad did. For a living, I mean.

I grow herbs because of my mother and her mother -- I can't smell my rosemary without thinking of my grandmother's church cottage in Rivonia -- but for some reason it all seems to start with her. The family she married into is big into Family Traditions, but most things I seem to get from that side are things like, I dunno, not even recipes but things to do with food. Things she did in the kitchen that her daughter taught us, my sister and I.

This is all starting to seem very gender-rolesy and probably Freudian, so I'm going to sit down for a little bit.
 
 
Spyder Todd 2008
15:12 / 30.11.05
My family will buy books before they will buy shoes. In some cases, they will buy books before they buy food. (I know I have before) That's about the closest I've got to a tradition. I know they're used to be more, the big family get together, the fact that every boy went into mining or construction, etc. But I have my father growing up in the swingin' 70s to thank for getting out of that. Thanks to his rebelious ways, though, I live my care-free bohemian existence!

But yes, books. Books, books, and more books.
 
 
angel
15:17 / 30.11.05
Because I don't know my biological Dad or really anything about him, I can't say anything about that side of my family. But from the Matrilineal side of things I think it's creativity I've inherited. Not so much in the employment stakes but in terms of having the ability and will to do things creative.

My Nanna could sew like a deamon and was a wizz with Corsetry apparently so my Mum was never without a stylish bikini or 10 that were all underwired beautifully - most important on the Northern Beaches of Sydney. My Mum sang, danced and acted when she was much younger and apprently was even offered professional stage work but had to turn it down because Nanna didn't believe it would pay regularly enough and there were only the two of them at that stage paying rent and finding money to live on.

And I too sing, dance and act and other creative things and am determined to get to a stage where I can do creative things for a living, in a way that my matriaches never could.
 
 
Mirror
15:52 / 30.11.05
Grant's comment about rosemary reminded me of another, deep down, important family tradition of mine (on the side of my Italian mother):

Making food. In my mother's family (and it appears to be the case for several generations) the most important parts of life revolved around food. Her father and uncle owned a spaghetti factory at one time; her grandparents were vintners and would traditionally set aside a barrel of their best wine at the birth of every child in the family, to be opened at the child's wedding.
 
 
Mirror
15:54 / 30.11.05
Oh, and the most violent arguments in the family have also always been about food. My grandparents would get into furious rows over how much parsley to put into the pasta sauce.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
16:25 / 30.11.05
I'm not heir to anything fancy.
My mother's mother left Newcastle and came to London to enter service. Her father, my greatgrandfather, was a miner and was on the Jarrow March. My mother's father, the product of a stern victorian upbringing, was in the army in WWII then worked for most his life as a drycleaner.
On my father's side they were shopworkers or cleaners. My father's grandmother cleaned at a city firm and got my queer greatuncle Bob a job in the firm. My father followed him into the city. I don't know anything about my father's father or his family as he was born out of wedlock. All I know is he was from South Wales and he put his name on my father's birth certificate, hence my stereotypical welsh surname.
Does the work or professions of your ancestors have any influence on who you are now?
 
 
modern maenad
07:19 / 01.12.05
her grandparents were vintners and would traditionally set aside a barrel of their best wine at the birth of every child in the family, to be opened at the child's wedding.

heteronormativity aside, that's what I call a family tradition. The maternal side of my clan specialise in madness, something each newborn dodges like mad to avoid ......
 
 
GogMickGog
09:44 / 01.12.05
I think the one quality I am heir to in my family is a sense of crushing disappointment, compounded by the fact that-according to my grandmother- we used to have things so much better.

I was raised on tales of glories past: scottish castles, playboy great-grandfathers killed at Gallipoli, colonial attachés in Hong Kong, Thailand, and Malaysia, the great stone given as a gift to my great-great uncle by a tribal chieftan as thanks for healing hos daughter etc etc.

Indeed, both my parents grew up flitting between the far east and strict British boarding schools.

And where did they settle for my generation?
Surrey. Dullsville suburbs, heart of the commuter belt, breeding ground of all that is daily mail about our fair nation.

Bum deal, eh?
 
 
Jub
10:06 / 01.12.05
you live in Surrey? aw, diddums.

Could be worse no? If you really feel like that why don't you get out of the commuter belt and go and live in Dubai or something? I know what you mean, and I similarly have that whole "could be doing something better" feeling. The difference is, I'm pretty sure I have got it made and am feeling an acute sense of greener grass etc. Do you really think you've got a bum deal living as you are?
 
 
GogMickGog
10:26 / 01.12.05
Not a bum deal as such, just a duff one in comparison with what is essentially a rich and romantic family history.

Having said that, my present circumstances are partly due to the smoochy love story that is my parents' life, ie. the fact that my mother chose to drop out of a good uni. course and potential career to be with my father at a crappier institution.

I intend to escape this muck ASAP my friend- I hope to spend my summer in Nepal and when this pesky degree is done I have no idea where the world will take me...
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:35 / 01.12.05
Backpacking?
 
 
GogMickGog
10:38 / 01.12.05
Teaching English to kids for 6 weeks, then backpacking for two.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:51 / 01.12.05
Secret of comedy, folks.
 
 
Jub
10:54 / 01.12.05
heh. You're mean.

I've got the feeling you'll land on your feet somehow Mick.
 
 
GogMickGog
11:17 / 01.12.05
Have I just been subject to some "hilarious" class-stereotyping?

Well, as I trawl across Asia with Jocasta and Vermillion, desperate to find myself and, like, change the world, I'm sure you will feel sufficiently superior and smug in your sweltering office.

I will allow you a brief chuckle each morn as you jam yourself into the tube, cos' I'm charitable like that.

*wink*
 
 
Loomis
11:28 / 01.12.05
It could be a lot worse Mick. We Australians shake loose the shackles of suburban mediocrity and go backpacking to exotic places like Surrey.
 
 
Supaglue
12:18 / 01.12.05
Do they look like this...





It's a running thing in my family on my Dad's side for the eldest son of each generation to have the same middle name. Christ knows why. Trouble is, its not something unusual like Montague or Granville, or rufty-tufty, like Clint. On no.

Its John.

Brilliant.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
12:29 / 01.12.05
Hardly class-stereotyping, M-T - you've been subject to a play on words that you missed completely, and have unfortunately just demonstrated that you don't really have a second gear beyond pusillanimity when you've grabbed the wrong end of the stick. Which is a shame, because it means that something quite light-hearted in intent has led to you looking like something of a scrote. Youth is on your side, though - I'm sure you'll pull it back.
 
 
GogMickGog
12:36 / 01.12.05
something quite light-hearted in intent has led to you looking like something of a scrote

Odd you should mention that, because just the other day my mother said to me "son, at this very moment I am struck by your resemblance to The pouch-like tegument enclosing the testicles", which seemed odd as she was struck dumb at the age of four.

Such is the weirdness of the world.

Apologies for over-reacting, oh Haus, but I have been subject to similar jibes all week and it is something I feel quite strongly about.
 
 
Char Aina
12:44 / 01.12.05
i think maybe jub helped the misinterpretation somewhat...

my family has traditions that go all the way up to before me, but most of them stop.
my gran has some killer recipes but i make them rarely. my mum and dad seem to have been the watershed for quiet a lot of things traditional.

the religion died with them as well, for example. if itwasnt for enforced church visits and a protestant school life i wouldnt even know who the ephesians were, let alone the contents of their mail.

i am going to make beetroot churney like granny, though. damn, but that shit is awesome.
 
 
Axolotl
13:24 / 01.12.05
I don't really have any family traditions, or at least nothing that go back a long way. All my family are hearty peasant stock, horny-handed sons of toil etc, and any traditions they might have had got destroyed when they gave that up to have electricity and education, and other benefits of modernity.
For example, my dad enjoys pointing out the house where something ridiculous like 10 generations of (family name) lived as tied farmers (I'm a little hazy on the details) however that all ended some time in the early to middle 20th century and he grew up in a nice modern council house.
 
 
matthew.
13:40 / 01.12.05
Two things I inherited from my dad's side:

1) my middle name which is actually two names: Lindsay Crawford. So my full name is Matthew Lindsay Crawford Blank. There, Haus, have some comedy material

2) a nice singing voice and rhythm. Every male in my family, excluding my father (for some reason) can sing and dance like an MGM star. I lucked out on this one, folks. I have a decent singing voice and I'm a decent dancer. So there's that.
 
 
matthew.
13:41 / 01.12.05
Whoops. I meant that every male on my father's side has the same two middle names.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
14:45 / 01.12.05
The maternal side of my clan specialise in madness, something each newborn dodges like mad to avoid ......

Yeah, me too.

Hmm. from father's side: food-obsession, as documented endlessly here. Football fandom. Socialism/activist bent.

Mothers: much less contact/knowledge so not sure. Possibly: musical leanings.

And actually, I click slightly with M-T 'disappointment down the generations' thing.

Most recent visit to India was interesting, as my sis and I noticed that pressure to succeed educationally/professionally which as kids, we'd, typically , thought was all about us had in fact been exerted on each post-Partition generation, each generation being pissed-off with the next for failing to restore the family fortune/status...
 
 
The Falcon
15:20 / 01.12.05
My dad was the first member of his family not to be a fisherman in the area of Culter in NE Scotland. I don't even like fish very much.

My mum's family's a bit more interesting, there's some farmers and one Lord somewhere - Rochester (not that one) or Rochdale, cannot recall, and my great-great grandfather (I think? late c.19th) on that side wrote intros to these beautiful, giant gold-leaf paper complete editions of Shakespeare we have in the house.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
15:51 / 01.12.05
I am the son and heir
Of nothing in particular
Apart from the shortness and fatness genes.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:55 / 01.12.05
I have some Shriners that are criminally vulgar.
 
 
Jub
16:06 / 01.12.05
You shut your mouth.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
16:24 / 01.12.05
Hmmmm hummhhhh hummm hrrrruhhrrr,
Uhhh guhhrrr abuuurhh thuhhhm thuh runghhhh wuhhhh?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
16:42 / 01.12.05
*slaps forehead* How can you say, I go about things the wrong way?
 
 
Cherielabombe
17:02 / 01.12.05
I am human and I need to be loved, just like my mom's side of the family.
 
 
HCE
17:03 / 01.12.05
I'm swarthy but that's not quite a tradition, is it.
 
  

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