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BILLY! And Mandy. The Grim Adventures of --

 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
05:36 / 28.11.05
And it makes me laugh hard because it is utterly charming and consistently inventive. I adore it because it is blissfully the opposite of cynical cartoons like American Dad and Family Guy, while still retaining a deeelightful sophistication.

The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy is about Death, called Grim, Billy and Mandy; Billy's the idiot, the fool, who, in a Mooressonian way, ensures that plot developments happen because he doesn't know any better, Mandy's the frighteningly clever and cold sister, and somehow they've ensnared the companionship of Grim. That's all you need to know. A simple premise that allows for a variety of directions each and every show.

Rao, I hope I'm not the only one around here who watches it because I would be so embarrassed that I'd never post again.
 
 
MacDara
08:12 / 28.11.05
My girlfriend loves that show; I've only watched it a few times myself. I just think it's great that Death has a Jamaican accent.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
05:35 / 29.11.05
Watch this show for Dune references here and there. You'll spot 'em. There's one set in the distant future where Mandy has evoled into a gigantic sand worm and clones Billy over and over, another during a child beauty pageant, when after the talent portion the next competition is the gom jabar. One of mandy's rivals pulls her hand from the box and screams about the burning, the judges say, predictably, "ohh, that's gonna cost her".
 
 
FinderWolf
14:14 / 29.11.05
Fantastic show, truly funny and wackily creative. I saw about 4 episodes while hanging out with my little nieces and we all loved it.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:17 / 29.11.05
Ugh. Terrible show, just awful and unfunny. The worst of the Children of Kricfalusi, who are under the mistaken impression that offense is amusing, that abuse is a suitable substitute for wit, and that esoteric references are funny in themselves. They're wrong. So wrong. And we all pay the price.

The animation is piss-poor, the character design is slapdash when compared the unified aesthetic of something like THE FAIRLY ODDPARENTS, the voice acting is both lazy and annoying. The characters are all dull and hateful and unfunny: all the real nine-year-old girls I know are far smarter and funnier and scarier than Mandy.

And the writing... well.

Check this, hipsters! The goddess Eris—dude, ERIS!—is a recurring character, as is the demon Nergal—yeah, him out of Delano's Hellblazer, pat yourself on the back for catching that one!

Not that they actually, y'know, do anything interesting with those characters. But, hey, w00t—Eris.

The episode that Tuna Ghost cites above perefectly encapsulates the pointlessness of the show. It's an episode-long recap—not even a riff on, just a recap—of God Emperor Of Dune. That's it. That's the joke. The only joke. Twenty seconds into the episode, after you pull your pie-hole away from the bong for long enough to cry, "Dude, no way! They're doin' God Emperor Of Dune!" the cartoon is effectively over. And yet it isn't: it continues for eleven more minutes, a grim plod to the finish. And even on those joyless terms, the episode only "works" if you've read God Emperor of Dune. If not, it's simply mystifying, as well as painfully unfunny.

(This is the same problem I have with FAMILY GUY, by the way. It's not enough that, say, Chris meets an Oompa-Loompa; it's got to be funny. Gene Wolfe says ideas are like lions—you can go to the public zoo for free and see lions just sitting around, but you'll pay good money to go to the circus and see them jump through hoops.)

So, yeah. Horrible lazy smug mean-spirited little show.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
15:49 / 29.11.05
Hey, I don't get all the references but does that turn me off? No. It might be that the mere sight of Billy shortcircuits my critical faculties, and I might like Death as a recurring character a little bit too much, but I really don't think it's as mean spirited as you think it to be.

I mean, if the humor doesn't do it for you, it won't; but how do you think it is mean spirited? 'Cos I see innocence and fun.

(note to self: insert examples later)
 
 
Jack Fear
16:39 / 29.11.05
The entire show is predicated on Mandy's naked contempt for the rlentlessly unlikeable Billy. And there's a nasty edge to the undercurrent of body horror and the occasional sprees of "hilarious" ultra-violence: the full-length episode that Snake Plissken-analogue "Hoss Delgado" spends chainsawing his way through a horde of zombies is perhaps the most unpleasant twenty minutes of television I've ever seen.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
19:28 / 29.11.05
Twenty seconds into the episode, after you pull your pie-hole away from the bong for long enough to cry, "Dude, no way! They're doin' God Emperor Of Dune!"...

Yeah, that's pretty much how it went down.

But yes, Mandy's unending hatred for not just Billy but pretty much everything not Mandy gets old. The writers apparently run into problems finding new ways to present that.

And Billy himself is just plain boring. He's just a Ren and Stimpy reject. "Ha ha! Isn't Billy dumb? That's the joke! Get it?" Yeah, yeah, I get it.

I don't know if I'd call the show "mean-spirited", but people's pain and misery are a large part of most of the jokes, and I can't deny the show is lazy and predictable.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
13:06 / 03.12.05
I've had a hard time trying to think of an adequate response; ultimately, though, I simply have no other option to say than okay, you don't like it. It's not for you. Large parts of your first post don't compute with me because I haven't seen the episodes you're referring to, don't know of the show that you deem to be more favorable, and the fact that I'm watching a translated version. Totally different voices. And I don't find the animation poor -- it's graphic enough to work for me, and it's loads better than, say, other shows which employ a similar aesthetic (PowerPuff Girls, that show with the timetravelling kid, robot and superhero, the show with the kid and the two fairies).

What agrees completely with me, I think, is what compells you to react negatively: It never feels preachy. Like in the episode I just watched, where Billy wakes up to a school day and finds himself to be the only one who hasn't done his homework, and subsequently achieves a remote that manipulates the time and space continuum from Grim. It could be important, you know. It could show how Billy could learn a valuable lesson. Fortunately it doesn't and goes a more slightly subversive path (he gets stuck in the stone age and sires the entire human race = Billy-level intelligence all around; yes, even Mandy).
 
 
Jack Fear
15:15 / 03.12.05


Oh, I don't require that the show be educational: I just ask that it be entertaining.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
20:20 / 03.12.05
Oh. Ok.
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
08:35 / 04.04.06
You're insane, Jack.

Saw the episode with the Ghost Duck just this Sunday and it was so hysterically funny and entertaining, that it easily was the high point of my day. No witticism here please, it *really* owned the day. Truly.

Anyone else seen that particular episode?
 
  
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