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Mono
12:54 / 21.11.05
I'm not so good with 'measurements' and that nonsense nut here is my "Cream" of Broccoli Soup (vegan of course, but you heathens can use real single cream if you must):

1 Head of broccoli, chopped
1 or 2 Carrots chopped into little pieces
3 or so Celery stalks cut up, too
a few Kallo Organic Vegetable Yest-Free stock cubes (they are the best!)
Olive Oil
Dried Basil & Oregano
Soya Cream
Salt

Make sure that there are loads of veggies, this has *got* to be a thick soup.

Sautee all the veg (starting with the carrot) in olive oil with a dash of slt and the dried herbs while the water boils. Don't let them get soggy!

Add stock cubes to the boiling water to taste.

Throw all the veg into the boiling water for just a few minutes. I rpeat--do not let them get too soggy!

Take the soup off the burner and add cream. Lots. i usually use one carton of Alpro Soya Dream per batch of soup.

Blend the lot with a handy hand blender, but leave lots of chunks.

Eat it with thick, chunky bread.

Yum...i might have to make this tonight.
 
 
Mono
12:55 / 21.11.05
also: garnish with fresh ground black pepper!
 
 
Katherine
13:07 / 21.11.05
For a quick tomato soup,

One onion chopped and fry at the bottom of a pan with the barest hint of oil until soft and golden in colour then add some chopped red or orange peppers and gentily cook for a minute or so, then take one can of organic chopped tomatos (with herbs if you can get it)and add to the onion and pepper.

Do not boil just gentily heat up to piping hot, very important not to boil for the flavour and it also means you don't have to spend ages cleaning up tomato splatter on your cooker.

Turn off the heat and add pepper and freshly chopped Basil, stir and serve with freshly baked bread or a crusty roll.

Tastes like those supermarket fresh soups at a fraction of the cost. Although I must try a few of these recipes, does anyone know if their recipe survives freezing ok?
 
 
Sekhmet
13:09 / 21.11.05
Onions should always be caramelized in butter first. With garlic. And then deglazed with something containing alcohol before adding stock.
 
 
Char Aina
15:10 / 21.11.05
could you explain the deglazing?
whatalcohol would you use?
does it matter what the onions are ending up in?
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
15:18 / 21.11.05
And then deglazed with something containing alcohol before adding stock.

*Drools*

After leafing through my new copy of Nigel Slater's Real Food, am going to branch out(ok, it's nearly the same, but can you have too many soup recipes?) and try his cauli cheese soup.

Also, it has quantities, which some might find useful. Like Mono, I don't really do quantities in recipes.


Cauliflower Cheese and Mustard Soup

50g butter
a medium onion, peeled and chopped
2 cloves garlic, peeled and crushed
2 small or a large cauliflower, broken into florets
2 bay leaves
a large potato, peeled and cubed
4 tablsepoons creme fraice
a heaped tablespoon of grain mustard

to finish:
2 thick slices bread, cubed
50g butter (I swear, when I can't get out of the door, I'm suing NS)
200g punchy(??) farmhouse Cheddar, grated

1.Melt the butter in a deep pan.
2.Add the onion and garlic and fry until soft, but not coloured.
3.Meanwhile, boil cauli for 6-8 mins/till nearly tender
4.Add bay leaves to onion, then cauli and its cooking water and potato.
5.Bring to boil, add salt, simmer for 15minutes.
6.Remove from heat, remove bay leaves, beldn.
7.Pour back into pan, stir in creme fraiche, mustat and black pepper, bring to boil.
8.Fry bread cubes till golden

Ladle soup into bowls, stir in cheese, add salt/pepper/mustard to taste and scatter with croutons.

Soooo, basically less cooking of ingreds than min.

Think I'm going to add bacon after stage 2 to fry a couple of minutes (am obsessed with veggie backon atm) and toms before stage 4.

Will report back when can get off the sofa.
 
 
Sekhmet
15:37 / 21.11.05
could you explain the deglazing?

It's where you dump a liquid into a pan of sauteeing stuff to get all the lovely flavor and crusty bits up off the pan. You can do it with stock or water, but alcohol works best and adds a nice flavor.

whatalcohol would you use?
does it matter what the onions are ending up in?


Yep. For, say, a meat stew with potatoes, I'd use Guiness or a dark ale. For chili or tortilla soup - spicy stuff - use beer. For a dark soup, like with a beef stock base, perhaps red wine. For lighter soups, white wine, or even cider.

Rule of thumb, I think, is deglaze with something you'd happily drink with the dish.

All soup should have onions in, though. It's a rule.
 
 
Katherine
17:18 / 21.11.05
All soup should have onions in, though. It's a rule.

Ohh that's reminded me, onion soup I have never made it but can be gorgeous (not the packet stuff though). I have access to the books which have a good chance of having a recipe, I think I will endeavour to make this week. Yum.
 
 
Cherielabombe
18:56 / 21.11.05
Mono I don't have to be vegan to know that that soup looks divine and I will be trying that one out. Perfect for cold weather.

GGM: MASHING, you say? Hmmm... I may have to give that a tray the next time I'm souping.

Now, let's get that onion soup on here! I'm getting hungry..
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
07:44 / 22.11.05
All soup should have onions in, though. It's a rule.

Absolutely not. This is utter nonsense that shouldn't be countenanced.

There are a number of Thai soups that are onion free as well as miso soup.

Now I have a hankering for Thai ommelete soup.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
09:46 / 22.11.05
could you explain the deglazing?

It's where you dump a liquid into a pan of sauteeing stuff to get all the lovely flavor and crusty bits up off the pan. You can do it with stock or water, but alcohol works best and adds a nice flavor.


I am selling up in Blighty and buying an air ticket and coming to live with you in your house, Sekhmet.
 
 
Ganesh
10:08 / 22.11.05
Broth-er, where art thou?
 
 
Katherine
11:47 / 22.11.05
Now, let's get that onion soup on here! I'm getting hungry..

*sobs* Wretched cook books have no recipe for the loveliness that is Onion Soup. Or at least mine don't, I will hunt tonight though my Mum's ones and see what she has written there. Although I do remember that you have to use a very good beef stock for the most yummiest soup.
 
 
Sekhmet
16:30 / 22.11.05
Xoc, you are welcome any time. Bring the heffalump, even.

Mmm, must make onion soup this week. 'S not hard, archraven... lots of big sweet onions, frenched and caramelized with butter and minced garlic until it forms a gravy and the onions are translucent and brown - the darker the better. Deglaze with red wine, add beef stock, rosemary, thyme, a bay leaf, a dash of balsamic vinegar, simmer, and Bob's your uncle.

If you like, float some croutons or toasted bread on top, cover with a good toasting cheese, and stick it under a broiler for a minute until it forms a toasty cheesy crust.

Now look, I've drooled all over my sweater.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
16:49 / 22.11.05
*hitches lift with Xoc*


The Nigel Slater cauli soup is goooood. Only change I'd make is not to add all the cauliflower water, as it gets (for my 'need hearty food' tastes) too liquidy and then needs reducing.

A great big pot soup as I'm on day 2 of it and it tastes even better. Made divine by addition of a spoon of mustard/some grated cheddar when serving.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
16:50 / 22.11.05
Sehkmet, what are your feelings on harems?
 
 
Sekhmet
20:32 / 22.11.05
Well, I have an extremely large stock pot...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:06 / 22.11.05
GGM, only concern I have is the grain mustrad. I shall try it as planned although Nige has a quixotic streak, you know.

Well, my other concern is over sleeping arrangements once we've all moved into Sekhmet's house.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
22:11 / 22.11.05
stock pot... mmmmmmm

Well, I likes the grain mustard in this, but in my standard cauli soup recipe I use Colmans' powdered, which is also yum.
 
 
mondo a-go-go
15:43 / 29.11.05
I like to make a lot of soup in the winter, but I rarely use recipes, and tend to just make it up as I go along depending on what ingredients I have at home. I never use stock when I'm making soup (or any other time, actually), just because I forget it exists and I seem to do okay without it because I am a big fan of other seasonings. Fresh herbs like rosemary and lemon thyme are great, sometimes soy sauce or even vodka are good, and it's worth experimenting with any seasoning range that combines flavours to create an "ethnic" taste (for example, Schwartz do some good ones; the Thai and the Morroccan are popular in our house). Also I sometimes like to add nuts or seeds for a little texture; poppy seeds look good on red or yellow soups (and taste especially good in a vodka/tomato sauce), sometimes walnuts are quite nice in soup.

Butternut squash is easy for soups, once you've got past the getting-it-out-of-the-rind stage. I find it works in a similar way to potato for binding and thickening soup, though it has a slightly smoother, creamier texture, especially after it's been run through a blender. (Can one bake the seeds the same way you can with pumpkin seeds? I should try it next time.)

A simple butternut soup is just to add big chunks of it to a pot with chunky-chopped carrots and potatoes, maybe parsnips too. Leave to simmer in enough water to cover the lot and some decent seasonings of your own choice, until it's got a nice, thick soupy consistency. This is a good hearty one for the mashing approach which GGM mentioned (a method I favour, also)

If you don't have potatoes or flour, a small amount of oats can be a useful thickener (as can barley, I believe, but I don't think I've ever tried it). I made a pea and asparagus soup last week and it was a little watery, so rather than wait for it to reduce down (I was too hungry and didn't want to risk losing any nutrients through over-cooking), I added some oats. I ended up with a sort of pease porridge, and was reminded that you need to be wary of the amount of oats you use. Actually, my pease porridge was very nice hot (but only lasted three days, rather than the nine days of the rhyme)

I don't often remember to make a note of which ingredients worked with which other ingredients, or amounts, but occasionally I do write them down. Usually without proper guidelines for amounts or time, though.

And soup always tastes better at least two days after it's been made, no matter who makes it.
 
 
Sekhmet
16:19 / 29.11.05
Umm, butternut squash soup... (*craves*)

I made chicken and sausage gumbo last night and it was lovely. (I know some people don't consider it gumbo if there's no seafood in, but I started with a roux and a mirapois, so dammit, it's gumbo.)
 
 
Quantum
16:45 / 29.11.05
Onion soup is best with sliced pickled walnuts in. It's true. You can get them easily because it's nearly Xmas.

Two words to you broth lovers- pearl barley. Costs about fifty pee a bag, throw a handful in your soup and simmer to turn it into thick gloopy goodness instead of bits floating in liquid.

Xoc, why not make a vegetable soup/stew/broth and put some meat in it? Just a thought...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
19:44 / 29.11.05
Sounds like a plan, Quantum. For one reason or another, have not cooked for a while, apart from one memorable chili, but soup frenzy will soon be upon us at Château Xoc. I have printed off this thread and will take it to the local marklet for ingredients. Soon as my worklife calms down and I feel like cooking when I get in... Comfort food I need!
 
 
Katherine
20:43 / 29.11.05
Onion soup is best with sliced pickled walnuts in.

*eep* You actually have pickled walnuts in soup?

Nooooooo *with extra noooooooo*, they are best with cheese, mature chedder at that. How you have walnuts after that gorgeous feast I honestly don't know unless you are tying up the whole walnut stocks.
 
 
Ariadne
20:47 / 29.11.05
euuch. I like pickled things, and I like walnuts, but my one experience of pickled walnuts was not good. Are they meant to be mushy? Like mushy balls of sour mud? It wasn't a happy experience.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
06:59 / 30.11.05
Not so much a soup as a tip - although it makes a cracking broth on its own - crispy aromatic duck.

When you've had one of those Sainsbury's pre-cooked chinese duck thingies, boil up the remaining fat and what have you (plonk them in water and leave to simmer for as long as you can manage - usually a day or so will do it, but you can stop sooner if you have to), then pour off the liquid into another pan, and reduce it a bit. Chuck the bones (unless you have a pig) and you've got a perfect spiced duck broth - great as a base, lovely by itself.

Another tip: avoid weird potatoes when making potato soup. My fiancée recently cooked up some of our amazingly mad heritage potatoes from the farmer's market down the road, and they're purple. Soup tasted great, but it was grey-blue and looked like something from the BBC special effects department, and no one we offered it to was able to eat more than a few mouthfuls. Weird what the brain can do to your appetite... we eventually had to use it as a base for something else.
 
 
modern maenad
07:29 / 30.11.05
mono - gonna try your soup, and wanted to ask if you've ever used the unsweetened plamil concentrate instead of soya cream? I use it for carbonara and it works great - will give it a shot in soup and let you know....
 
 
haus of fraser
09:09 / 30.11.05
Very little mention of stock going on a vital ingredient in any soup/ broth making process- i really don't think cubes cut it- and the little cartons they sell in supermarkets for about 2 quid are a fucking rip off.

ok so there are several different stocks that i make the key to the meat ones is lots and lots of bones.

Everytime we cook a roast or meat on the bone we take the bones and bung them in a plasic bag in the freezer- once you have 3-4 chicken carcasses or a big set of bones bung them in the stock pot (alternatively buy a packet of chicken wings fry them in olive oil to seal them at the bottom of yer stock pot) and cover with water- then add a few bay leaves, a few whole cloves of garlic, peppercorns, some fresh herbs like thyme or rosmary- a stick of celery is also pretty good to bung in.

Then cover the stock pot and let it simmer away for 2-3 hours - i know it sounds like a lot of effort but really just stick it on on a sunday night while digesting roast dinner. The key to a good stock is just leaving it alone.

Now to make a clear stock as used in thai style soups don't let the water boil! Just keep it on a gentle heat for a couple of hours- scrape the white scum off the top as it comes- and if you add additional vegetables to the stock keep out starchey stuff like potatoes they make the stock go cloudy. Alternatively for a good old british broth stock- boil the crap out of it and let it reduce slightly- you'll get a stronger flavour.

For the vege's its pretty similar proccess but replace the bones for Onions, leeks, celery, garlic and carrots- fry em to seal then cover with water, herbs etc.

I try and make different types of stock so we keep meat, chicken bones seperate. Once the stock is made distribute amongst plastic tupperware things and freeze all you don't need.

On a slight threadrtot Nick's duck stuff got me thinking- after you roast a duck scoop up the fat from the roasting dish- let it cool and freeze. This is now the stuff to make the most perfect roast potatoes in and will last you a while... yum winter food...

copeys favourite lentil soup...

Onion
Celery
A Carrott
A courgette (zuchini)
A Red Pepper
Cubed Pancetta
Red Lentils
Chicken stock
Garlic
Bay Leaf

chop the onion, a stick of celery, courgette, pepper and the carrot into small cubes- and fry with the garlic and Pancetta until the pancetta is cooked and the onions are glazed. Add a coupla big old handfuls of red lentils- stir into the mixture and then cover the mixture with stock. chuck in a tin of chopped tomatos and a bay leaf- season with salt & pepper and let simmer for abot an hour- or until the lentils are a soft mushy texture and the soup is thick. Er Eat... very good with warm crusty french bread and also good after a night of resting as the flavours get stronger.
 
 
Psych Safeling
10:18 / 30.11.05
On the butternut squash tip, I peeled my first one the other day, and very nearly ended up with a complete set of partially severed fingers. Dad then passed on a tip which is to bung the whole thing in the oven for half an hour, after which the skin (apparently) just lifts off. Not sure how this would affect the flavour for soups, though. I was peeling the squash to boil it for cheesy squash mash, which was absolutely divine. Literally boil in salted water or stock, then mash with a pinch of chilli or paprika, a knob of butter and lots of cheddar cheese.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
10:27 / 30.11.05
On a broth-related tip - anyone have vegetarian alternatives chicken soup? That is, comforting, good for colds, used as token of affection?
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
10:31 / 30.11.05
On a broth-related tip - anyone have vegetarian alternatives chicken soup? That is, comforting, good for colds, used as token of affection?

I'd go for red lentil soup myself, with loads of garlic and/or cumin (I'm not really one for recipies, making these things up as I go along), or maybe even lentil and potato soup.
 
 
Loomis
10:58 / 30.11.05
Psych - what were you using to peel the squash? I use a vegetable peeler and it works fine, with little risk of chopping fingers.

Haus - in terms of general comforting and health-giving, any stodgy soup with plenty of legumes works for me. Usually a nice thick soup made with plenty of green lentils and root veg.

If you're looking more specifically for something that resembles chicken soup, I've been experimenting with somethign along those lines. I find that the most dominant factor in said soup is the saltiness, so I make a soup with a stronger than usual stock cube to water ratio, some finely chopped carrot, onion and celery, a small amount of barley (which adds some soft sliminess) and a large handful of small pasta (I use orzo, the one that looks like rice and I usually get from middle eastern grocers). care needs to be taken to make sure it doesn't turn out too chunky as an important part of chicken soup is the salty liquid (stop singgering up the back). Along with the stock, a sprinkling of Italian herbs and paprika and a bay leaf or two, and also a squirt of tomato paste. And of course a large dollop of olive oil.

Works for me, although it's been a long while since I've had chicken soup ...
 
 
modern maenad
11:32 / 30.11.05
On a broth-related tip - anyone have vegetarian alternatives chicken soup? That is, comforting, good for colds, used as token of affection?

Lentils definitely - and on the stock front I find that water left over from cooking rice/potatoes and/or steaming veg in works well the next day as a base for soup/stew/gravy. Last night we had celariac and potatoe mash and steamed green veg, and I've saved the water from both the pans to use a base for a general veg/lentil stew for today. Also top tip is to make your basic stew with pulses and root veg, then when you heat it up on subsequent days chuck in few handfulls of more tender veg that don't need so much cooking - courgettes, mange tout, peas, spinach, thin sliced carrot etc....that way you get some fresh veg too....
 
 
pointless & uncalled for
12:48 / 30.11.05
Haus - Cabbage soup is a fine restorative for colds and despite initial appearances is the source of a lot of affection.

Basic rules - onion miscegenation is taboo, garlic quantities should be a subject of much cogitation and bay leaves you fools.

1. Finely shred your onion rather than chopping. Sweat in butter adding the garlic for the last minute. Garlic should be sliced thinly, not chopped.
2. Add your cabbage (half a medium), also finely shredded and in 1-3 inch strips. Stir and cover until the cabbage has relaxed.
3. Add the following vegetables - for white cabbage: 2 medium carrots (chopped), a modest handful of runner beans(sliced) and some baby corn (chopped) - for red cabbage: 1 red bell pepper (sliced), 2 medium carrots (juliene or thich grated) and a handful of chestnut mushrooms (quartered or halved and sliced).
4. Add vegetable stock, salt, pepper, two bay leaves.
5a. If you're making white cabbage soup add oregano and thyme and simmer until the vegetables are al dente. Add a quarter pint of milk and bring to the boil. Skim the froth. Serve with crusty rolls and grated cheese.
5b. If you're making red cabbage soup add 4 cloves, a handful of raisins and ginger/fresh chilli if appropriate. Simmer until the vegetables are al dente and then add a splash of either white wine or cider vinegar to brighten. Serve with toasted pitta with cream cheese and sliced apple.
 
 
Psych Safeling
14:48 / 30.11.05
Loomis - um, a peeler too. Coordination's never been a strength of mine. My reference to partial severance was more the prospect of removing substantial chunks of flesh than anything that would look like a proper severed digit. It may have been because the squash was about two months old, or because the peeler's crap. I was also aggrieved by the amount of squash I was discarding with the peel, which is why I liked my Dad's idea.
 
  

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