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How do you decide what to buy next?

 
 
Loomis
08:36 / 09.11.05
Do you regularly read reviews in the paper/online, and generally keep an eye on new releases? Are you always aware of new books published by your favourite authors?

Do you buy books based on recommendations from friends, and if so, do you do it right away or add it to a list for later? And speaking of lists, do you keep an ongoing list of books that take your fancy and dip into it when you’re ready to buy something or do you go into a book store (new or s/h) with an open mind and just browse until you find something that looks good?

When you’re at a bookstore, how much notice do you take of promotions and discounts? Do you like to browse through long shelves of A-Z fiction looking for a title or a spine that catches your eye? Do you find that a daunting prospect? Do you find it easier in smaller stores with less books to sort through? How about s/h stores? Do you find it easier to discover new authors by rummaging through disorderly piles?

Like most people I suppose, I use a combination of methods. I keep an ongoing list on which I add anything that looks interesting so sometimes when I’m knocking about on ebay while at work, I can just search for a few of them and see if any are going cheap. Back in the day I would keep the list in my wallet so that I could look for them whenever I was in a second-hand bookshop, but times change. Usually I add books to the list based on personal recommendations, Barbelith threads and also other works by writers I’ve read for the first time and enjoyed. I don’t read book reviews regularly so I don’t get much from there.

One thing I would like to improve on though is my knowledge of new releases. I have never had a very good handle on them, and usually my list is full of dead authors. And even when I go off-list, it’s usually to snap up another Graham Greene or Charles Dickens or something. In some ways I suffer from the thought of how much there is to read already, which I know daunts many purchasers of new releases. But then it’s not because I think I should, but because I want to. Or maybe I don’t like taking a risk on a new author based on reading only a page or two in the shop. My intake of new authors has risen exponentially since shacking up with Ariadne who is much more on top of such things and regularly brings home new releases.

So, how do you decide what to buy next, and more importantly, how do you find new authors and stay on top of new releases?
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
09:02 / 09.11.05
I like to browse. A lot. I find 3 for the price of 2 or similar sales irresistible, I think they're a good way of discovering new (to me) authors - I choose the first two based on subject/author being familiar to me or a personal reccomendation, and the third just on interesting cover picture or blurb. I tend not to go by any celebrity quotes.
Other than that...well, the 3 for 2 sales generally have all the books laid out face-up on tables. I don't like browsing through shelves, as it's too easy to miss what you're looking for when scanning through the spines. When I'm looking for a specific book, if I can't find it after a minute or two looking in the obvious place, I'll go look for a stock check.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
09:12 / 09.11.05
3 for 2's the real motherfucker, isn't it? There's always at least one thing in there that I want, but it seems such a waste not to get the whole three. That can in itself be quite a good way of finding new authors. Or presents for people you don't know very well.
 
 
Ariadne
09:50 / 09.11.05
I quite enjoy going along the shelves, browsing, so long as I have plenty of time. I usually know when new stuff is coming out by people I like - but it's always a thrill if you see something you didn't know was coming out.

I tend to follow what's new by reading reviews and general book news, usually in the Guardian.

And yes, 3 for 2s are good - it encourages me to try things I might not otherwise.
 
 
Shrug
17:42 / 09.11.05
I don't exactly equate what I'm going to buy next with what I might read next. I might buy a book and not read it for years. I usually have a surplus pile of unread books lying in various corners of the house from which to choose.
Sometimes I read a thread on Barbelith or am greatly enthused by a particular post and specifically track something down. The same goes for friends recommendations, newspaper and internet articles etc.
Now and again I spend early Saturday morning browsing secondhand bookstores or Waterstones/Hodges Figgis, one of my favourite bookshops lies just at the Trinity end of Dame Lane (Dublin) another interesting one lies above a clothes shop in the square outside Central Bank.
While I alway dip into a random page of a secondhand book to test quality or style, I very rarely even read the summarised plot on the book jacket of a new book just the blurbs. Generally I might avoid a book with a blurb from let's say The Daily Mail or Maxim if it isn't countered by another from a more trustworthy source (same goes for films). Is that snobbiness or just good sense? Sometimes I just buy something if I like the cover art (same goes for music).
When in the library I normally pick up something that looks specifically outside of my usual taste. Which I suppose gives me greater access to new authors but I never intentional attempt to stay on top of new releases or read something from one of the literary world's bright young things. Does anyone else find their criteria of choosing a book from a library rather than a retail outlet differs greatly?
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
18:24 / 09.11.05
word of mouth

i can't afford to buy books based on the depths of their embossing.

ta
tenix
 
 
c0nstant
11:36 / 10.11.05
contrary to popular opinion I tend to judge a book by it's cover. This is how I 'discovered' Palahniuk, Luke Rhinehart and Irving Walsh. I tend to feel that if an effort has gone into designing a books cover and making it attractive then the likely-hood is that it will be a good book. In my experience that's rarely not true. That said you can't beat a good long rummage in a decent second hand book store.

There used to be a place called Savory Books in Brighton, that I would visit every oppertunity I had. Not only were the staff knowledgeable but the prices were ridiculously low. Unfortunately the prices were a little too low as its
now closed.

And also, you can't forget Amazon's recommended list, a very useful feature.
 
 
OJ
16:45 / 10.11.05
I am very impressed by anyone who can be as organised as you, Loomis, in keeping a list of books you want/need. For me those lists are like diaries: destined to be lost or abandoned, whichever comes first.

So that leaves the hit or miss method. Mainly browsing and reviews either in the press I read or online (on forums like this) that pique my interest. Books that friends recommend and lend me etc.

Like Double Shrug, I always dip into a random middle page to get some sort of representative sample rather than a flashy opening line. Obviously this method isn't very scientific.

The common factor for me is some sense of connection. The ideal next book to read that makes me salivate at the prospect is one that is connected, however tangentially, to something else I've been reading or another interest. It can be as simple as a new book by an author I like, or by an author who has written about/referenced another. I think I used the example of reading a Paul Auster book on another thread here recently, so I apologise. It had been a random 3 for 2 pickup, but before I read it I stumbled across a connection between Auster and an artist whose work I'm interested in at the moment. So that made it ideal for me.

If there is no obvious connecting path from one book to another, I prefer browsing secondhand bookshops over the Waterstones 3 for 2 option. The latter is very handy, but I tend to suspect that I might end up reading all-brand-new-marketing-priority-UK-US-literary-fiction-from-the-big-publishers if I relied on that, and that I might be somehow limiting my horizons.

Of the slightly more organised methods, I find Amazon recommendations don't usually interest me at all. But I think that's because I fail to act in the methodical fashion which would make the system work for me. ie. I use it to look up books which I have no intention of reading for reference purposes whilst logged in, I use it to buy gifts for others, I don't go in and rate all the books I do like etc.

It can be quite amusing to work out just why Amazon thinks I like Science Fiction and Lesbian Detective Genre stuff (both furnishing links for discussions like this I think) but that's it....

If a marketing person were coming up with a strategy to get the disorganised impulse buyers like me to purchase their books they'd probably go for.... point of sale displays to encourage random flicking in queues, those "staff recommends" cards for the personal touch and perhaps targeted editorial placement in other material I might read. I'm thinking perhaps references in theatre programmes or exhibition materials in galleries.
 
 
Charlus
08:15 / 11.11.05
Publications such as TLS and the NY/London Review of books are good. They always review some interesting books if you are interested. It all depends on what your interests and tastes are.

Also, check out the personals in the last few pages of these publications. Highly Amusing.
 
 
Trijhaos
15:33 / 11.11.05
Usually I buy books by the eenie meenie minie mo method. It's sorta of hit or miss.

Seriously though, I don't keep up with the newest up-and-coming authors, I don't usually know when my favorite auhtor is putting out a new book unless there's a preview in the back of the current book, and honestly I like it that way. It gives me an excuse to go the library or a bookstore and just browse. I only occasionally pick up books people on message boards recommend, because some of them aren't books that I can easily find in a brick and mortar store and others just aren't my style. The best way for me to find a new author is to the go the beginning of a section and just look at the titles. Usually at least one title catches my eye, so I pull it out, read the synopsis, open it to a random place in the book, read a few pages and if I like the way it flows; I'll pick it up.

Actually if you really want me to pick up a book, just slap a 50% off label on it. I've picked up some really horrible books just because they were cheap.
 
 
gordasm
18:50 / 12.11.05
I too make a short list of must-reads, which I usually draw a mental blank on when I'm in the stores.

I'm an avid CBC Radio One listener and love their afternoon drivetime show, Here and Now, which usually features a house guest. A lot of times there are great authors on the show, fiction and non, that pique my curiosity.

I also find that in reading a lot non-fiction stuff, especially the heavier stuff, there's references to other works I'm not familiar with. So, I try to check those out. Between that, the classics I haven't read and my ongoing magazine subscriptions, I also have something to keep me busy on the long busrides to work each morning.
 
 
matthew.
03:04 / 13.11.05
I don't exactly equate what I'm going to buy next with what I might read next. I might buy a book and not read it for years. I usually have a surplus pile of unread books lying in various corners of the house from which to choose.

Surplus pile? You just described my room. I literally have books that sit around gathering dust before I even contemplate reading them.

How do I find new authors?
a) Amazon.com
b) Word of mouth
    b-1) From other authors' recommendations
c) the look of the book

In fact, (c) is how I found Iain Banks (not the "M"), because all of his paperbacks have a similar cover scheme, and I thought that it would look marvelous on a bookshelf.
 
 
JohnnyDark
21:21 / 16.11.05
Kidding aside, I pick up quite a few on Barbelith recommendations.

On the topic of keeping track of books-I-heard-about-6-months-ago-and-want-to-get-around-to-buying,
I find Amazon's wishlist thingy fantastically brilliant. You also get a cooling-off period: three weeks later you look at your list and think "do I really need that History of Elizabethan Beekeeping that sounded really good in that TLS review?". And then you probably think: "Yes".
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
06:17 / 17.11.05
Johnny - I'm 100% with you on the Amazon recommendations. Well, once you've gone through them and checked off the books you already have...
DoubleShrug - just wondering which of the clothes shops outside the Central Bank has a book shop above it? Apart from the big two on Dawson St, Chapters is another excellent book store in Dublin.
 
 
at the scarwash
17:25 / 20.11.05
Sometimes I really like to buy based upon staff recommendations at bookstores. If I like the prose voice of the staffer's blurb, there's a good chance that we share certain tastes in the resonances of words. I wish that every book in the shop had a personal review like that.

Then there's the dowsing method. Just walk the aisles until it feels right. Choose the book that most naturally comes to hand. It works very interestingly sometimes. Sometimes it's chicken soup for the soul
 
 
matthew.
01:22 / 21.11.05
Sort of funny anecdote - I was in my local Chapters and I asked the fantasy/science fiction section guy where I could find some China Mieville. He asked if I knew anything about it, and I said "not really, no" and from there, he launched into an hour long oral history of the fantasy genre. He literally took me from book to book in the store telling me about certain authors and certain books. He recommended tons of stuff that I have still not bought, but when I go in there, I look at them longingly. His biggest recommendation was Gene Wolfe, who until that moment, I'd never heard of. It was longest literature lesson I had never paid for.
 
 
Neo-Paladin
12:46 / 22.11.05
Agreed, staff recommendations often lead me down strange paths which end up quite fruitful. Having said that I did read The Pursuit of Happiness and was gravely disappointed in Borders!

NP
 
 
astrojax69
03:36 / 24.11.05
i hear all the time about 'wish lists' of books, but i have never met someone who actually writes it down... well done those 'lithers with such dedication!

i never [ever - or is that evah!] read backs of books. ever. never not at all. well, until after i have read the thing, or it is so patently awful i couldn't countenance ever acquiring it. subsequently i tend to follow loosely the reviews in the paper, on line or by anecdote and serendipity. often i'll get books writers i like have reccomended, or written! i also kep an eye out for all those 'classics' i have 'been meaning to read since i was six' and so on s/h shops are awful for me - i have great difficulty passing a display of books and not getting one, two, many, so a shop with countless, prima facie affordable volumes gets me a-quiver. dangerous!

friends lend me books - i am scrupulous about returning them! - and i them, is how i find some new authors. other times, it can just be the set of a graphic or a catchy title/name makes me pick up a volume and scan a few paragraphs, see if i like the style. can tell a lot by opening to the middle of a book and reading a few paras at random. (openings can be too clever by half and the book mayn't live up to it)

ahh books. there are far too many and i have too little time...
 
 
Opps!!
21:16 / 22.12.05
Personally i have this problematic method of book buying where i start off with a book/magazine/comic/cd by someone trusted and then use references to other works as a trail to new unheard authors/writers/topics. Seems to work fine for me but can get a bit silly if i'm not careful (beware of starting with any Iain Sinclair books)
 
 
Brunner
08:27 / 23.12.05
Years ago I would read reviews and make a mental note to flick through the various books reviewed when next in a bookshop. I could keep quite long lists in my head. Now, I'm both lazy and quite possibly losing my memory. I rarely read reviews and generally buy books chosen at random off the shelves (or wait till I get home and use Amazon). I say random but its not as haphazard as that...I'll read the blurb and several pages to ensure its a book I'll get on with.

My biggest problem is that I'll read a book and then 6 months later can't tell you what its about. I often know I have read a particular authors work before, but cannot remember if I enjoyed it. However, as I get older I am developing more of an interest in non-fiction - history, social and political commentary etc etc generally sparked from something referred to in a newspaper or online article. I'd like to be a bit more intellectual in my book-buying choices - both in what I buy and why. But as I say, I'm lazy....
 
 
Digital Hermes
20:26 / 02.01.06
I usually find it neat to read the authors that my current favourite authors enjoy. Based on this, I read Thomas Pynchon because Alan Moore wouldn't stop talking about it, and F. Scott Fitzgerald because Dave Sim did an interesting portrait of him in Cerebus. I started reading Yeats when I found out Guy Gaveriel Kay had an interest in him.

I read the reviews in the book section, listen to what's hot these days, and sometimes just buy it because someone else has told me it's that good. There's also the classics. An author may be long dead, but if you've never read his work, then it's all new to you, right?

I currently find much of the new releases, are 'lit-lite,' which means they're usually some sort of contemporary family drama, either light or tragic, and without the trappings of genre fiction, are considered literature. The only ones I really sit up and take notice with are when accomplished authors come out with new works, or when those same accomplished authors start talking about a new work. There's too little time in life to waste time reading 'lit-lite.'

As a former bookseller, it was always great to lead a new reader to a favourite author. It's gratifying to hear that it's appreciated.
 
 
ibis the being
21:33 / 02.01.06
I generally just browse. I like to spend a lot of time in the bookstore, picking up interesting titles and reading the backside blurbs. I do have a list of books I want to read, but I hardly ever remember to bring it - and when I do, often nothing on there is quite what I'm in the mood for, so I end up browsing in my usual way.

I hear about books I'd like to read on NPR fairly often. I once wrote down nearly every title in a Barbelith 'What are you reading' thread, but I have to confess, when I actually tracked down the books on it, in person they weren't as intriguing. I think I only ever read Palaniuk off Barb, and I didn't like it (Lullaby).
 
 
Tryphena Absent
23:56 / 02.01.06
I never buy new releases unless I already know the author. I rarely read authors I have already read, which I suppose really does beg the question- how do I find books?

Generally I go to Waterstones in Piccadilly because I like the layout. Start at A, skip to P and then work my way inbetween, get frustated, go to Crime, do the platforms and then haphazardly work through 50% of the fiction shelves. This pattern has developed over a good number of years, takes around 3 hours and usually turns up 2 or 3 books by people I've never heard of and were first published between 2 and 6 years ago. It's really very random, I pick out novels if I like the name, title or image on the spine and then read page 1, the middle page and the last page. If the last page leaves me curious about the inbetween then I buy the book.

I do this 4 or 5 times a year. Sometimes people pass books to me, sometimes I go to a smaller bookshop and find something a little shoddy. The best, most memorable books always come from the huge Waterstones though. Possibly because it allows the predator inside to do her hunting.

I don't like new releases, I find them annoying, the melodrama that reviewers use often leaves me drained. They never tell you about the language, tone or style of a book and those are the things that make me able to read the bloody things. Sometimes I think "this sounds fantastic" and the words make me want to stamp on the book screaming about insipid nonsense. So, erm, I stopped reading reviews after my near miss with complete insanity beside the letter S.
 
 
Benny the Ball
16:45 / 03.01.06
A mixture of recommendations and judging books by their covers. I have a kind of list of stuff recommended in my head, which mainly comprises of classic books - a lot of the time I'll ask someone who says that they are a big fan of an author which of the books is their favourite, and then read that, I like recommendations simply because there is a nice sense of connection with a book read and enjoyed by somebody else. I also have a very good friend who sends me lots of things at random intervals (as do I to him). As for books by their covers, I love wandering in bookshops and just taking a chance on a book that feels right. I am a bit annoyed with the lack of blurbs on many recent books, many opt instead for quotes from reviews, which makes me think of terrible films that pluck single words from articles by people like Paul Ross, so put me off of a lot of books. Also, the two forums that I read a lot of, any recommendations from these I'll look into. Libraries are fantastic for this. Years ago I worked at Waterstones, and would read Times Lit' Review to try and stay ahead of new releases, and Sunday papers' review sections can be great for offering up something you would otherwise miss.
 
  
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