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The Vertigo Tarot

 
 
electric monk
19:36 / 04.11.05
So we got off on a bit of a tangent in the Albano-Waite Tarot thread, and hopefully we can carry that tangent over here for a fuller discussion.

As I've stated before, I'm an enthusiastic user of the Vertigo Tarot. It was the first piece of magical paraphenalia I owned, and the accompanying book was the first book on things magical that I read. That may give you a laugh, but it opened a door for me, and held it open for a good few years until I was ready to walk thru. That book was my first exposure to the concept of Qabalah and got me interested in the Golden Dawn. As an aide to understanding the cards, I think it's really first-rate (and this from someone who's underwhelmed by Pollack's other writings. See her book on the Qabalah). My copy's annotated right to hell at this point, with the Golden Dawn names for the Minors written on their respective pages, and the elemental designations written in above the names of the Court cards (Earth of Earth over the Page of Pentacles, etc.). Mint/Near-Mint no longer.

The deck itself, I think we all agree, is a thing of beauty in it's own right. All elements of the images were assembled in Photoshop and McKean takes full advantage there, blurring realistic faces into abstract backgrounds and fading surrealism into reality. Many elements repeat themselves throughout the cards, and this lends a cohesion to disparate cards that enliven both Majors and Minors. In particular, the wand of the Magician (Tim Hunter) reappears in the Wands Minors. Elements from the Magician and the High Priestess card also reappear in the Tower, adding further continuity to the Fool's journey through the Majors. There are other examples.

The brilliant bit to me, though, is the change that some of the Minor Arcana undergo in reversed position. Rather than seeing an upside-down picture, the reader of the Vertigo Tarot is occassionally treated to a whole new vista. My favorite example of this is the Eight of Swords. In it's dignified position it shows eight swords from top to bottom in progressive states of wrapping, thus signifying burying feelings of aggression. In the reversed position, however, the card shows a gradual unwrapping of swords, symbolizing a release of anger.

The one drawback I have found with them is that, in reading for other people, one may get bogged down in having to explain why there's a guy in a gas mask on the Justice card (it's the Golden Age Sandman) and suchlike. A concentration breaker for sure. Still, I find this deck a very effective tool and, comic characters aside, my clients enjoy the eye candy and tend to study the imagery of the cards a little more than they might have with another deck.

That's my take anyway. I'm eager to hear what others have to say on this matter and other people's experience with this (IMHO) wonderful deck.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:10 / 04.11.05
Do you have a link so that we can check out the cards? Or at least a list of the characters/objects/situations used to represent the various trumps?

I've seen one or two images of this deck and it looks lovely; if I was reading for myself, or reading for someone I knew very well and who had a good understanding of the Vertigo material, I think it could be an engaging experience--a way for those without knowledge of the Tarot to engage with it on a familiar level.

I think there's a lot of virtue in this kind of deck as an exploratory tool, but I wouldn't recommend it for general use.
 
 
Chiropteran
23:38 / 04.11.05
(Here are some pics. Nice.)
 
 
electric monk
12:19 / 05.11.05
Here are pics of the full set of cards. It's set up so the links "rot", so one can't link to individual images, but it's great for a look-see.

I'm not sure I could recommend them either. Maybe to another comic fan, but that'd be about it. I will say, though, that I've gotten over my previous embarrassment at using them. It felt fanboyish before, but now not so much. Probably due in part to the oohs and aahs I've gotten from clients and fellow occultists (none of whom read comics) who've seen them.

Possibly not entirely functional for everyone, but in the right hands...

BTW, I notice on Amazon that these decks go for about $225 a pop from individual resellers. Whew!
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
15:02 / 05.11.05
In regards to the price, there are two editions. One was released back in 95 and came in a large white box. That's the one that goes for $200+ usually. There was a reissue a few years back in a smaller box. Although I notice that even that one goes for around $70 bucks on ebay.
 
 
Unconditional Love
15:14 / 05.11.05
If those prices are too much the whole set is available in electronic format from a certain donkey that begins with an e, book and cards,very good scans, with that in mind id watch out for fake sale sets. sometimes i see far too many sets at once on ebay and it does make me wonder, or is that just my suspiscious mind. probably the latter.
 
 
electric monk
15:21 / 05.11.05
Thank you, Mongoose! I thought there was a second edition out there, but couldn't find anything on it. I think that edition is without the big-ass box that the 1st had. Also, softcover book instead of hard, IIRC.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
18:20 / 05.11.05
Yeah, the 2nd edition has a small black box with a cellophane front and the book is smaller and softcover. It can also still occasionally be found for cover price in comis stores, or so I hear. The 2nd printing is the one I own.

My biggest problem with the deck is that some of the Major Arcana use such obscure characters that they don't have much "iconic" impact. I mean Brother Power the Geek as the Emperor? The Enigma as the Chariot? The Teiresian Tower of Babel from Doom Patrol? One definately gets a feel that the existance of this deck as an ad for stuff Vertigo was trying to push at the time is a heavy influence.

The Major Arcana is also pretty Gaimain-centric but that part dosen't bother me, much.
 
 
electric monk
18:41 / 06.11.05
I don't mind the Geek-as-Emperor or the Tower so much, but the Enigma as the Chariot pretty shit. The saving grace for me is that the Chariot card doesn't feature the Enigma in any recognizable way (unless that's his hand in the upper left holding the reins), thus leaving me free to skip the ham-handed Enigma association in the book. I get the feeling that McKean said, "Fuck it, the Chariot's going to look like a Chariot. Pollack can sort it out later" to a few of these cards.

Anyone know how the Star, Moon, Sun, and Judgement escaped Vertigoization?
 
 
electric monk
19:54 / 07.11.05
After thinking about my interactions and relationship with this deck, I realize that when I'm dealing with the cards of the Major Arcana I pretty much ignore all associations with the Vertigo characters. The Magician card is simply the Magician, etc. No taking Tim Hunter and the rest into account whatsoever. Ignoring the commercial powers of the deck and focusing on the archetypal powers.

With one exception: The Death card tends to put me at ease due to my previous exposure to her characterization in Sandman. I can be pretty opposed to change, but the sight of her helps me remember that change is necessary and, though sometimes painful, usually for the best. Makes it a lot easier for me to calm nervous clients who panic at the sight of the Death card too.
 
  
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