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Sun Editor abuses spouse?

 
  

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sleazenation
09:36 / 03.11.05
OK, this is just a rumour at present, but news flashes on BBCnews24 claim that the editor of The Sun, Rebekah Wade has been arrested for assulting her husband, Ross Kemp... Somehow I feel this top piece of tabloid fodder isn't going to be on the cover of The Sun tomorrow...
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:49 / 03.11.05
Private Eye will have a field day...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
09:55 / 03.11.05
I can imagine the conversation with the police, if this really is true;

'Fucking hell, Grant, mate, I'd have thought you could handle your birds a bit better than this...'

'B-but that's not me... It's just a role I play... She makes me slap her about you know... But I like poetry...' *bursts into tears.*
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:01 / 03.11.05
Now this is why people read the news...
 
 
Supaglue
11:45 / 03.11.05
Private Eye will have a field day...

Heh, yeah. Didn't she instigate a " The Sun Says No to Domestic Violence!" type campaign last year?
 
 
Smoothly
11:55 / 03.11.05
Indeed she did. So what could Ross have possibly done to provoke that??

Interestingly it was Sky News who first broke it. Murdoch is going to ‘stand by’ her according to ‘insiders’, but I bet Andy Coulson is already tying up loose ends at the Screws.
 
 
sleazenation
12:19 / 03.11.05
This story is going to make life for battered husbands so much worse...
 
 
Supaglue
17:37 / 03.11.05
Wade and Kemp had dinner with David Blunkett, Rupert Murdoch and Max Clifford before the incident.

Then Steve McFadden (Kemp's on-screen brother, Phil) also reports domestic violence by his ex-girlfriend.

Starting to smell rats....
 
 
Alex's Grandma
17:44 / 03.11.05
Could you unpack that a bit, SG?
 
 
Supaglue
18:47 / 03.11.05
Sorry, just wrote a quick post upon leaving work, when I heard that Steve McFadden's ex-girlfriend had been arrested on similar charges:

Story here

But it seems I got a bit arse over elbow:

Wade and Kemp had been having dinner with Rupert Murdoch followed by David Blunkett the evening of their incident

And then 'good friend' Max clifford starts getting on telly saying that if Kemp had been attacked, then he must have deserved it for Wade to do that (nice one Max).

It just all strikes me as odd. Kemp and McFadden make a 'sensational' comeback to a soap as well known 'hard men', then both are assaulted by partners or ex-partners. Then Blunkett's and Clifford's names pop up.

Am I just reading too much into it?

Anyway, I'm going to forget about it now before it all turns into gossip.
 
 
■
23:12 / 03.11.05
It does have the whiff of Prentiss McCabe about it. Too convenient, far too neat. So, cui bono?

-The Mitchells and Eastenders, natch. The brothers are back, no-one noticed much, now it's headline news.
-Clifford, yes, obviously.
-Raising the profile of spousal abuse to tie in with a big shit-eating "I fucked up, it even happened to me" editorial in a near-future Sun after she gets scapegoated to show what a flawed but ultimately caring woman she is? We'll see.
-Blair gets near-defeat of the terror bill shoved back a few pages.
-The inevitable coming-out story gets a sympathetic treatment (you wouldn't believe the names I heard bandied around today by parliamentary people) for the "special army soldier".
-Bush gets the Libby treachery trial... Ok, that's a bit too far. Maybe.

Who loses?
-Blunkett gets dragged in and blamed for something else, but given his profile right now, it's flogging a dead horse.

Unless Murdoch fires Wade on the spot, there are NO losers in this story. It's the biggest PR coup for years. I am awed by its audacity.

Unless, of course it's real and she did beat him up. In which case she just slipped yet another rung down the pit.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
06:09 / 04.11.05
Apparently the Sun today (according to Radio 4) are focusing on the lamping of Steve McFadden...
 
 
distractile
08:21 / 04.11.05
The Sun's coverage is here, and is just glorious, in the worst possible sense of that word:

Ross, who has won millions of new viewers after returning to the soap as Grant Mitchell, opened the door to find four officers on his front step ... Ms Wade was also not hurt during the incident which was described as an “old-fashioned row” between a married couple.

It's actually like a case study in how two near-identical events can be spun in utterly different ways ...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:36 / 04.11.05
The Guardian's Zoe Williams is characteristically spot-on:

n the spirit of looking on the bright side, following Rebekah Wade's arrest for assaulting her husband Ross Kemp, here are some ways in which things could be worse for her - she could have been caught in a paedophile ring (as well as the high-profile campaign against domestic violence run in her newspaper, which makes this all such a delicious irony, the News of the World also ran a fascinating paedophile witch-hunt while she was editor. Which would make that irony even more delicious. But only just). She could have killed her husband, rather than inflicting - allegedly, of course -upon him a small abrasion to the mouth. That would have been bad. Or she could have ... nope, that's it, I'm afraid. This is a bad day for Rebekah. Nobody wants to spend the night - or even morning - in Wandsworth police station at the best of times, but particularly not if they're the - I think we should give her her proper title - Flame-Headed Editor of the Sun.
 
 
sleazenation
10:58 / 04.11.05
So, how long will ol' Rupe wait before he pensions her off?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:03 / 04.11.05
Depends what it does to the circulation.
 
 
eskarina smith
22:27 / 04.11.05
first post ever so please don't eviscerate me ...

given that he (publically) went to dinner with her last night as well as the night before, i'm guessing he's not planning on sacking her too soon.
 
 
Ganesh
22:33 / 04.11.05
There's been loads of 'ho ho, he's a hard man but he got lamped by a woman' japery doing the rounds today. Strikes me as unpleasant and despicable.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:39 / 04.11.05
Oh, can I second what 'Nesh just said? Actually, can I OH FUCK YEAH it?

Yeah, if he was really a real man, like on telly, he'd've put that slaaaag in her place, right? Because obviously all relationships boil down to who can thump who the hardest, right?

Fuck. Off.
 
 
sleazenation
22:59 / 04.11.05
Murdoch isn't going to be sacking anyone in the next few weeks because to do so would just serve to draw even more attention to a story that reflects poorly on his news organization. But Wade has definitely blotted her copybook by becoming the news. I'd suggest that she will be moved in a year-18 months time.
 
 
fuckbaked
01:44 / 05.11.05
ok, so I really don't know anything about the people involved in this, but if what the Sun is reporting about Angela Bostock and Steve McFadden is true, it doesn't sound to me like like it's just a publicity stunt, primarily because of this:

"The friend said: “Angela was in a complete state. She came tearing out of the house and thrust their baby daughter Mollie into Steve’s arms.

“She then whacked him across the face, as he was holding the baby. He staggered a bit but managed not to drop the child."


I just don't think any reasonable person would attack someone who's holding a baby, even if it's all set up. If it's a publicity stunt, there's no reason to involve a baby, and it makes Angela Bostock look really bad, even worse than she looks for hitting him. And seriously, if she's really his ex, why would she be willing to let the papers portray her as violent just to give him publicity? Would you be willing to be known as a violent person just to give your ex some publicity?

Weird coincidences do happen. And violence against men by women happens, too. I wonder if it would seem easier to believe if it were the 2 guys who'd gotten violent, rather than the women. I know you all know that women can be violent and all, and I'm not trying to say that you specifically are biased to think that women generally don't perpetuate domestic violence against men, but in the media and such we hardly ever hear about domestic violence against men. I think that may have a lot to do with the fact that men are often pysically stronger and thus more able to defend themselves, so they don't get as hurt when it happens, and are less likely to go to the police or tell people about it because they don't want to admit to having been injured by women.

and I know this is off topic but...

speaking of violence done by women to their ex's, did anyone read this horrible news story? I can't believe Gail O'Toole only got 6 months probation for doing something like that (why are our prisons filled with people with drug problems when psychos like Gail O'Toole don't spend any time there?). It says in another article (which I can't link to, because it was on my ISP in an area for members) that she admitted to drugging him so that he would fall asleep, and according to the article I linked to, when he woke up he found, "his penis glued to his stomach, his testicles glued to his leg and his rectum glued shut." It says in yet another article that the guy did win the civil suit and is going to get a lot of money from her, but aside from the obvious fact that she should have to pay for his medical bills and the like, money doesn't really do much to help someone emotionally heal from something like that, and 6 months probation and being forced to be even more empoverished than she already was doesn't really deal with the fact that she's a psycho.

ugh. I fucking hate violence. I'm glad the guys the thread was started about didn't actually get hurt. (again, I don't know anything about those people, so I really don't know if it was a publicity stunt or whatever....)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
05:46 / 05.11.05
There's been loads of 'ho ho, he's a hard man but he got lamped by a woman' japery doing the rounds today.

See, that's not what I find funny. What I find funny is that the self-righteous Rebekah Wade (she of the "let's get angry mobs dealing out justice to supposed nonces" campaign at the NoW, let's not forget) is currently running a "let's stamp out domestic violence" one. I'm all for stamping out domestic violence- hypocrisy not so much.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
10:28 / 05.11.05
I don't really agree with cube in that for any of the people he mentions to benefit, the story should have happened several days previously, Blunkett's disgrace had already been reported and celebrated, there wasn't going to be much else to do other than watch him to see if he commits suicide, the almost-defeat of Tony Blair over the terrorism bill had already been reported and as for Eastenders, people are hardly going to say "Well, I wasn't watching it even with GrantnPhil back but maybe I will now in case there are any clever metatextual references to this slapping."

Without further information I think it is a story of a man and a wife, who happen to be Z-level celebs and media shakers, having a row.
 
 
Smoothly
15:55 / 05.11.05
I'll tell you what would be a great publicity stunt: convincing people that this was a publicity stunt.

Cube, you're wasted in whatever you're doing now.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:25 / 05.11.05
[off-topic- the almost-defeat of Tony Blair over the terrorism bill- a majority of ONE. And who had a prior, paying engagement somewhere else that was more important? George fucking Galloway./off-topic]
 
 
Michelle Gale
12:52 / 06.11.05
I don't really agree with cube in that for any of the people he mentions to benefit, the story should have happened several days previously, Blunkett's disgrace had already been reported and celebrated, there wasn't going to be much else to do other than watch him to see if he commits suicide, the almost-defeat of Tony Blair over the terrorism bill had already been reported and as for Eastenders, people are hardly going to say "Well, I wasn't watching it even with GrantnPhil back but maybe I will now in case there are any clever metatextual references to this slapping."

But think about the cumilative effect of the terror bill passing with 1 vote, Blunkett resignation and the British washington abassadors memoirs (or whatever) completely dambing the justification for war, Bushs current predicament( the false nuke precurment documents) the media feeding frenzy would be pretty intense, and too a certain extent it has been in the broadsheets (who still havnt gone for the jugular for some reason), But not in the tabloids whose (and im wildly generalising like a class warrior!) readers are more easily swayed politically, and are being fed this random and zeitgeist friedly story that is good conversation fodder, but its obviously (inspired) bullcrap.
 
 
w1rebaby
16:07 / 06.11.05
If nobody had been hit, you really think the tabloids would have been really shouting about Tony Blair's current parliamentary embarrassments?

Besides, if there was going to be some concerted effort to distract the public via the tabloids, I would imagine that it would be something that didn't embarrass the editor of the most popular one.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
16:07 / 06.11.05
Yep, those Sun and Mirror readers are so easily distracted aren't they? ASBOd to the eyeballs while they sit on their fat backsides watching Footballers Wives...

What was the sign for sarcasm again?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
16:15 / 06.11.05
I think it was a middle finger, held aloft.
 
 
Michelle Gale
17:16 / 06.11.05
I would imagine that it would be something that didn't embarrass the editor of the most popular one.

"You couldnt make it up could you."(middle finger held aloft)

If nobody had been hit, you really think the tabloids would have been really shouting about Tony Blair's current parliamentary embarrassments?

To be honest if collective public opinion wasnt obsessing over this "issue" (in the short term) people would be focusing on why Blair is a fuck up.

Yep, those Sun and Mirror readers are so easily distracted aren't they? ASBOd to the eyeballs while they sit on their fat backsides watching Footballers Wives...

Im a student and know plenty of nice middle class types whose only source of news are tabloids.
 
 
w1rebaby
17:52 / 06.11.05
To be honest if collective public opinion wasnt obsessing over this "issue" (in the short term) people would be focusing on why Blair is a fuck up.

Seriously? You really think that? Why is it that they've not been focussing on that for the past couple of years, then, given that the recent events really don't mean anything apart from that Blair is losing internal influence within New Labour? He's just as much of a fuckup now as he was a month ago, he's just a fuckup who's potentially going down. Which is not something that Rupert Murdoch wants to put on the front page.

Really, what indication do you have that people would be concentrating on the "real issues" (as determined by the broadsheets) if it weren't for this?
 
 
Michelle Gale
18:15 / 06.11.05
then, given that the recent events really don't mean anything apart from that Blair is losing internal influence within New Labour? He's just as much of a fuckup now as he was a month ago, he's just a fuckup who's potentially going down.

But he's profoundly fucking up now, and there has been a confluence of recent events that are illustrating that.

Which is not something that Rupert Murdoch wants to put on the front page.

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Really, what indication do you have that people would be concentrating on the "real issues" (as determined by the broadsheets) if it weren't for this?

First off by "real issues" i mean issues that have bearing on reality. Lets not get all postmodern. People would be concentrating more on this because this is not isoloated it is a collective torrent of fucking up.
 
 
sleazenation
18:30 / 06.11.05
The main appeal about this story to me is an greatly gratifying sense of schardenfreude...
 
 
w1rebaby
19:04 / 06.11.05
People would be concentrating more on this because this is not isoloated it is a collective torrent of fucking up.

Which has been happening for a while, and will continue to happen, and anything unusual in parliamentary terms has been well publicised through the usual channels.

So what's different about now? What would otherwise make the tabloids break the habit of a lifetime and concentrate on Blair's failings?
 
 
Michelle Gale
20:14 / 06.11.05
I think the fact that you dont think things are significantly bad for Blair right now and he should be held to account is quite telling.
 
  

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