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Impact of technology on pedagogy

 
 
waxy dan
14:41 / 14.10.05
(Mods: This probably shouldn't be in Conversation; I wasn't sure where educational questions might be appropriate? Feel free to move it, or just ignore it if no one's interested )

We were discussing something the other day when struggling with camera leads in a conference room. We're running a certificate in learning and teaching, and are about to start an online version.

One of the plans is to video most of the lectures and place them in an Virtual Learning Environment as one option for students in receiving content. There will also be discussion forums, PowerPoint slides, etc. The forums will probably form the focus of the course in many ways.

A concern was raised that, by recording a session, one could have a significantly negative impact on the methods and styles of the lecturer; it would promote a very straight 'chalk and talk' style. Not necessarily a bad thing; but for lecturers who utilise debate and discussion in their classes: a death knell, as that type of session simply cannot be easily recorded.

We could have two versions; one with no camera and a class, and another recorded specifically for the web. But, I'm certain the remote students would be missing out on a lot, but I'm equally concerned that the students present will recieve a delivery of a lower quality if we were to do so.

I was wondering if anyone had any feelings about the matter, or advice to give?

thanks
 
 
Cat Chant
15:27 / 14.10.05
I think you're right to have reservations about the usefulness of recording lectures - I don't think lecturing is the right mode of teaching for remote learners. A lot of the point of a lecture is being there - information is emitted and absorbed via non-recordable, non-transmissible interactions between the lecturer and the group. On a really pragmatic level, I say that because I've done a lot of transcription of audio recordings of academic lectures, seminars and discussions, and they're often simply incomprehensible, because speakers will stop speaking mid-sentence if they get a strong agreeing/disagreeing vibe from their audience - either because they can tell their audience knows what they're going to say next, or because they're imagining a rebuttal from the expressions on the faces of the listeners and they correct themselves to take that into account. Even beyond that kind of thing, though, I think most lecturers, unless they're just reading from a piece of paper (in which case, put the text up on the Web), will be responding to the particular ebbs and flows of energy in a specific room full of specific students at a specific time.

For me the usefulness of lectures, specifically, as a mode of learning, was actually always much more about the discipline of having to be in a particular place at a particular time, and about the collective experience of listening with other people. I think if you're accessing stuff remotely, it's much more useful to have text-based information, or maybe a 'read' lecture with Powerpoint for people who take in information more easily aurally.

Speaking to address people you can't see, who'll be listening to you in a different place, at a different time, is a different skill from lecturing to a room full of people. (I say this because one of the lecturers at my last uni, who was usually quite a successful speaker, once recorded his lecture onto DVD because he was going to be away, and it was atrocious).

That's really negative, huh. But I guess I mean - and I'm sure you know this, otherwise you wouldn't be asking this question in the first place - that the technology changes the event, and you have to be thinking about what are the best ways to learn remotely, rather than just finding a technical way to transmit modes of learning that work face-to-face. The remote learners will miss out on those types of teaching and learning, but hopefully they'll make up for it by having access to other types of learning which don't work face-to-face (discussion forums being a prime example).
 
 
rising and revolving
15:34 / 14.10.05
On a side note, I've been thinking a lot recently about the manner in which recordings change the nature of stuff - especially now that its super easy to record / photograph / etc almost everything.

I've been considering setting up a few "live for the moment" jam sessions. No recording allowed, nothing lives past the moment. Just get in and do what you do and then leave.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
16:06 / 14.10.05
Mixed feelings. We've put together distance learning packages where I work and what has worked well was stuff we scripted then paid actors to perform / deliver and off the cuff stuff by non-actors, judiciously edited after the fact. I'm crap on camera in short bursts and particularly bad when reading from an autocue.

When I've had longer spells on camera, I've found that much more successful from my point of view because I had time to ease into it and almost forget about the filming. My delivery would be fairly natural after a while but, as a learning tool, I don't think the tape necessarily would do half the job you can do with interaction, live. I do that well, apparently, so you'd think that might translate to film but doesn't seem to.

Having said that, I download lectures on audio from the web and I usually find them very useful. Those are things I choose because they sound interesting rather than things I have to listen to and absorb fully. It takes a whole lot more practice, presence and photogeneity for it to work on film, I think.
 
 
waxy dan
10:49 / 15.10.05
We're hoping to hang the online course around the discussion forums. To make asynchronous communication the heart of the project. There are the usual obvious concerns that this is very difficult to manage. But I think it's essential due to the subject concerned; teaching. I would tend toward believing that distance learning lends itself better toward more information-based subjects (medicine, physics, language, maths) than it does to an area where discussion and discourse are of such high importance. We are considering having the discussion boards quite linear and guided. One excercise each week which is produced and considered on the boards (presentation, discussion, and criticism of ideas form a part of the assessment: I have a concern here that the loudest voice might receive the highest grade).

We've had 'talking head' powerpoints online before and have had very mixed reactions. We'll probably include them again, but very much as one method of many of accessing the information.

My own style of teaching tends very strongly toward interaction and discourse; trying to lead younger students toward answering questions for themselves and older, more experienced, students to contradict and completly discredit much of the delivered material.

When I'm training (I know this is a semantical arguement, but I do draw a distinction between teaching and training); it tends to much more a one-way communication.

We were considering going down the audio route; mp3's which could perhaps be put on portable players. But, and I find this very interesting, our remote students (due to a cultural difference that I don't quite understand) have specifically requested videos as they want to be able to put a solid identitiy on the lecturer.

One point that was made was how the content could be divided. Purely factual information on pdf text files, and descriptions and opinions on video. I don't know what anyone would think of this?



(rising and revolving: I think that's an excellent idea; the recording of events alters them horribly. I was at a skate boarding demo last night where the MC kept egging people on to get out their camera phones. The recorders became as much a part of the show as the recordees and, while I'm all for interactive art, the event lost a lot because of it).
 
  
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