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All Acting Regiment
00:28 / 02.10.05
This is a thread for people to talk about Metal bands that are Interesting. I'll start by just being really honest and saying I find Metallica et al to be, well, not my cup of tea. In fact I find them nauseating.

But I have been listening recently to a bit of Tool, a bit of Meshuggah and a bit of Sunn0)). I'm interested in listening to Lightning Bolt. I don't know, or to be honest care, what genres all these bands fit into. They're all just heavy and punishing, but in an interesting way.

So that's what this thread's about: interesting metal. As a starting point, we could talk about the bands I've mentioned, or feel free to add to the list.
 
 
matthew.
01:32 / 02.10.05
You'd probably like Mastodon and their second album Leviathan which is a sort-of concept album based around Moby Dick.

Great drumming, interesting song structures, decent metal-singing and of course, crunchtastic riffs. It helps that they have an amazing unity to them. One rarely hears such a unified sound on an album. I don't mean conceptually or in terms of structure, but the band itself sounds like one person with a lot of fucking arms. They are tight, man.

In terms of Meshuggah, have you heard the new album, Catch 33 or whatever number it is. I like it. It's okay.

There's also Evergreen Terrace which is sometimes labelled hardcore, sometimes punk, sometimes metal, but when it comes to labels in the music scene, there's no shortage and none generally fit the bill. They have some serious lyrics, but they also like to have fun. They don't take themselves too seriously, but they're not the NOFX of metal, if you catch my meaning. Their third full-length, second album, Sincerity is an easy disguise in this business may only be 35 minutes long, but it packs a huge punch. Try giving The Smell of Summer, one of their songs, a listen. Or perhaps Dogfight. Those are the two best songs off the new album.

And maybe not metal, per se, but Chevelle is fairly interesting. True, they may enjoy some mainstream success, but they pretty decent. I really like the singer's voice and his lyrics are very unique. For example, here's a sample lyric: "these catacombs have got me by the chin" That's almost like Nabakov!

And further up the hardness scale (going softer now) there's Shinedown. Just a spectacular lead singer. I could justify a comparison to Paul Rodgers here (of Free, Bad Company and currently of Queen fame). Try sampling 45 or Burning Bright or their stunning cover of Simple Man (originally by Skynyrd). Shinedown has the gift of brutally amazing bridges.

One more recommendation. Try (re)visiting Dirt by Alice in Chains. You'd be surprised at how well it's ageing, how together it still sounds, how tragic is the loss of Layne.
 
 
Math is for suckers!
05:43 / 02.10.05
This is great, there hasn't been a thread like this in a while. First off I would second Matt's suggestions of "Leviathan" and "Catch 33".
The new Lightning Bolt, "Hypermagic Mountain", is pretty excellent, very driving and just big sounding. For some reason whenever I listen to Lightning Bolt I imagine those scenes in the old Warner Brothers cartoons, when stuff would explode or crash and it'd just be lots of colors and shapes and stuff.
SunnO)))'s newest, "Black One", is pretty killer. They come awfully close to writing "songs" on this one though, so be prepared for something other than their usual drone.
Neurot Records Made out of Babies are pretty interesting. Their lead singer is this woman who can go from a weird, child-like croon to a banshee wail at the drop of a hat. The music reminds me at times of a slightly more melodic Unsane or a more metal Jesus Lizard.
If you thought Godflesh was cool but just not as harsh or abrasive as you'd like you might check out either Halo or P.H.O.B.O.S.. Both play really dark, aggressive industrial doom, for lack of a better term.
Big Business are a bass and drum duo featuring members of Karp and the Murder City Devils. Lots of big riffs and pounding drums with kind of shout/sung vocals. If you like Karp you'll know what I'm talking about.
Earth's new album "Hex: or Printing in the Infernal Method" is nice. More melodic and peaceful than their earlier stuff, but still very heavy.
I've got more but I'll wait until I see what other people suggest. That and my fingers are tired.
 
 
MacDara
09:13 / 02.10.05
The Melvins would definitely fall into the 'interesting metal' category. I saw them here in Dublin last night, playing their classic album 'Houdini' in its entirety (as a warm up for their slot in the Don't Look Back festival this coming Tuesday). In a word, it was awesome. If you're in the Big Smoke this week, you simply have to see them. Full stop.
 
 
Mistoffelees
10:22 / 02.10.05
My favourite metal band is Therion.

They are from Scandinavia and play symphonic metal. Their texts are full of stuff from Kenneth Grant, Norse Mythology, and other occult or esoteric things. Often they use a whole choir and an orchestra too. Even in concert!

Wikipedia has a lot about them here.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
12:58 / 02.10.05
Thirding (if indeed there is such a word) Mastodon's Leviathan. One of the best metal albums in years.
 
 
uncle retrospective
14:55 / 02.10.05
Metal and interesting eh? Well, I've been listening to a lot of metal lately so I'll give this a go.
Anything on Hydra Head records seems to be doing it for me at the moment. The new Isis album, Panopticon is very good. They are to metal what Mogwai are to rock. That may float your boat, it may send you running. Either way, I think it's great.

Jesu. Dear God! Jesu. I can't say enough good things about this band. Justin from Godflesh's new band and they are amazing! The self titled album is a half and half of Godflesh and Slowdive. Justin seems to have cheered up a bit and now, instead of the anguished howl of Godflesh we have a more melancholy Jesu. It's almost beautiful. (I saw them blow Isis of the stage earlier in the year) The Heartache EP is, well, I've run out of superlatives, great.

Iron Maiden. It's true, best metal band in the world. Any of the first 7 albums are fried gold, but Live after Death, the 85 live album is the best place to start. It may sound too cheesy if your only into sombre metal.

Slayer. Thrash metal gold. Reign in Blood finished thrash metal in this 28 minute blast. It never gets any better than this.

Pitchshifter. Man these guys were fantastic when they were around. WWW.Pitchshifter.com was the first dance/metal crossover album to do it really well, I think. This is a almost perfect of metal and Drum and Bass.
Bangin'.

The last Killing Joke album. Their second album just called Killing Joke. I don't know if it should be called metal but there are some huge riffs on that CD and Dave Grol's drumming is just what the doctor ordered.

Manowar. Kings of Metal
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Ok. Maybe not. But just, maybe, FUCK YEA! This album is dumber than a rock. It's cheese at it's most cheese. Metal written by weirdo's who seem to see Conan the Barbarian as a positive role model and make dumb barbarian metal. With Choirs, and an orchestra. I love it, but I first heard it when I was 15. I feel that it may have aged badly. It is interesting though.
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
18:09 / 02.10.05
On the metal-for-art-schoolers tip (The NY Times actually just a couple weeks ago had an article about the new crop of American 'intelligent' or 'art' metal bands), you should definitely pick up Pelican. Their latest, The Fire in Our Throats Will Beckon the Thaw, is a little post-rocky for me (ie, lacks in metal), but everything prior—their self-titled, the Australasia LP, and the March into the Sea EP, are intelligent and heavy as fuck.

Also coming to mind (because they're right above Pelican in my iTunes) are Peccatum, the current project of the lead singer and songwriter for Emperor (best black metal band ever, and incredibly sophisticated, interesting music), Ihsahn. This is basically metal, and still takes cues from black metal, but the compositions are very eclectic and proggy. Might strike those not entirely down with the whole metal thing as a little cheesy at parts.

Last I'll mention Arcturus, a sort of supergroup of black metal musicians, who have put out several fascinating avant-garde metal records. They just put out a new one, Sideshow Symphonies, which I have, but have not yet listened to. (I'm currently listening to the new Ulver, which counts as interesting metal because they used to be a black metal band, but don't at this point resemble their former selves in the slightest.)
 
 
matthew.
00:01 / 03.10.05
Isn't Pelican an instrumental band, though? If that's true or not, I do know for a fact that they often get compared to Isis.

Isis' new album Panopticon is worth a listen, too. It's "art-metal" without being the messy Dillinger Escape Plan artsy (which is, frankly, unlistenable)

And I thought I'd give a very brief recommendation for Slipknot's Vol 3: The Subliminal Verses.

Hold On! Don't vomit. Let me explain. Sure, Slipknot is cheesy and, sure, they're fans are the most annoying fans other than the fucking Juggaloos (or whatever the fuck they're called). And sure, the masks are boring.

But give a listen to the third album. When Corey Taylor sings, man, it's beautiful. Try giving Before I Forget a spin. It's such an infectious hook on the chorus. The reason why is because Corey's lifting R&B hooks and inserting them into his cheesy primal metal. And I don't mean Usher-R&B, I mean Sam Cooke-R&B. It's soulful, man.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
01:36 / 03.10.05
Slipknot?
Jesus. Wept.

Although I'd agree with a lot of the recommendations in this thread (Isis, Jesu, Pelican, Sunn0))), Lightning Bolt) but I'm calling Shennanigans on Slipknot. Perhaps if you're fifteen years old and want something a little heavier than Green Day (tey 1nv3t3d punk!!111!!) then Slipknot has a little bit of worth, at least until you've stopped getting spots and wanking twenty times a day. Oh, and their video where their fans are running around with their shirts off effectively erased any homosexual leanings I may have had. My dad sent them a letter of thanks.

As for more interesting Metal: Pig Destroyer get name-dropped a lot, and with good cause. It's nearly impossible to tell one Grind band from another, and P-Dessy are the exception that proves the rule. It's just a drummer, guitarist and vocalist, but they make more noise than Slayer times a bazillion, the production is superb (in Grind, that means like it doesn't sound like a flight of stairs falling down a flight of stairs) and the lyrics are top-notch. None of this sticking fingers into your eyes business.
Scott Hull from Pig Destroyer is also in Agoraphobic Nosebleed. They need to be heard to be believed: their last album ('Altered States of America') had 100 songs in 23 minutes; it's basically a collection of minute long concept albums about, um, the Tokyo subway gassing and the twelve days of Christmas. It's utterly perverse and utterly unmissable.
Anyone bringing up System of a Down gets a slap and will be sent to bed without any supper.
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
02:16 / 03.10.05
Agoraphobic Nosebleed just put out (or are about to put out) a new one, called Honky Reduction. Just sayin'.
 
 
matthew.
02:20 / 03.10.05
okay. so that's what it's all about, huh?

Let's start with Slipknot. One of the first things I said was that I understood how cheesy and how awful the fans are. Okay? So let's stop using my own opinion against me, shall we? I don't mean to sound rude, but I was merely observing that if pretentious music-lovers could get past the image and the fanbase, they might, say, enjoy the music. I listen to everything. That includes country. There's not much out there that I have listened to and did not like (notable exceptions include Sarah McLachlan and the Pussycat Dolls).
1. The band is cheesy. They don't need nine members.
2. Their fandom is one of the worst of all time next to Kiss fans.
3. Their music is somewhat deriative. Or at least, it used to be. My point is that somebody should try to listen to them. Give them a try. So get off your fucking high horse. And I'm not just defending Slipknot here because I'm a rabid fan. Far from it. I can only tolerate the third CD. Tolerate. Yeah, that's the word I used. I'm writing this in defense of every poor schmoe who wants to talk about something mainstream, something non-artsy without being completely shat upon by somebody who has a different opinion.

This leads me to my next point.... System of a Down is as interesting as a metal band can get. It's a perfect recommendation to anybody who wants to hear interesting metal. Not only do they have a different style (somewhat Eastern flavoured, Armenian roots), but they also have interesting lyrics. Note that I didn't say political or topical. I said interesting.

Pig Destroyer? Jesus, why don't we recommend Rotting Christ while we're at it. Okay, let's talk about Nile or Opeth. All bands deriative of At the Gates. There you go. We can all name-drop.

Sorry if this offends anybody other than the selected target.
 
 
feathered_up
02:57 / 03.10.05
Well. I like metal quite a bit, though my tastes tend to be pretty (sometimes arbitrarily so) selective. I too find a lot of prominent metal bands fairly boring...there is a tendency, I think, to rely on the adrenaline rush and technical prowess, which I tend to consider "cheap thrills," rather than interesting, well thought out and composed music. Here are a couple of bands that I would indeed call intelligent and are/were doing something that is out of the box and stimulating on a more intellectual basis.

KHANATE is a Stephen O'Malley band (O'Malley is sort of the it-guy of arty doom metal, was in bands like Burning Witch and Thorr's Hammer, and is now in Sunn0))) as well as Khanate). They are probably the bleakest band I have heard in a long time...they make very good use of negative space, as much of their (very) long songs are composed of ambience and emptiness. There are very visceral emotions captured here.

KAYO DOT is the spinoff band of a prog-metal group called Maudlin of the Well, who are also worth checking out. There are about 9 people in the band, and it includes horns, strings, and many other nongenre conventional instruments. I believe the music is composed by the frontman as one might compose a classical piece...there are long segments of very beautiful sounds with vocals that are almost identical to Jeff Buckley's that are interspersed with incredibly brutal moments.

MARE are very similar to Kayo Dot, though there are only three people in the band...there are soothing parts with angelic vocals that segue into Neurosis-esque passages that settle into that particular type of metal groove that is so appropriate for head bobbing.

BARONESS come out of Georgia, and you can here the southern rock influence in their sound. It is hard to really classify them because they borrow from a lot of metal subgenres, but I might call them stoner metal to be simple. There are a lot of really well composed grooves here with a lot of intricate and tasteful riffing, but it is all underscored with a very strong sense of melody. They are pretty accessible, and I play them a lot for friends who are not that into metal.

SLEEP is the stoner doom band of stoner doom bands...they are rocking on the Black Sabbath influence. Their crowning acheivement is a record called Dopesmoker which is 62 minutes long, only one song, and basically one riff. It sounds goofy to describe it, but it is actually very hypnotic and engaging if you really set down to listening to it. And before you ask, I listen to this sober most of the time and it still stands.

EMPEROR are of course an unbelievably powerful band, probably the best black metal I have ever heard. They are continually using unconventional melodies and playing with timing and phrasing. Some of the material is truly demonic, and simultaneously lush and beautiful. They put out a fair amount of material, and there is a real progression to their work as well.

I would love to hear what anybody else thinks about these bands, if you are familiar with them. I have only seen of the aforementioned Baroness and Mare, but I would also love to hear about any experiences people have had seeing them live.
 
 
Math is for suckers!
04:04 / 03.10.05
Lots of good selections all around. I'm surprised no one has mentioned the big two of avant-garde grind, The Locust, with their insane, synth-fueled "sci-fi" grind, and Discordance Axis, with their songs about videogames and Philip K. Dick. I'd recommend either to anyone. Well, anyone who appreciates something more than your standard gore-grind. Old, featuring James Plotkin and Alan Dubin, now members of Khanate, has to be one of the forefathers of avante-grind, with loads of distortion and electronics and even John Zorn.
Noxagt play unusual, mostly instrumental, metal using a bass, violin, and drum trio that has to be heard to be believed. I honestly didn't know violins could make that kind of noise.
Kylesa play very sludgey, claustrophobic metal with gruff, shouted/growled(but not Cookie Monster) male and female vocals. Their newest, "To Walk a Middle Course", has been in heavy rotation on my computer lately.
High on Fire is Matt Pike's(former lead singer/guitar player of Sleep new band, and boy if they aren't just ridiculously heavy. Excellent bass work by Joe Preston + Pike's always excellent guitar work and Lemmy on cough syrup style vocals = me being hard of hearing for the next couple days after I saw them live.
Since everyone's been suggesting Stephen O'Malley's various projects I thought I'd go the other way toss out Greg Anderson's old band Goatsnake. Goatsnake were more of a groove oriented stoner rock band, along the lines of Kyuss, than doom, and really nothing like SunnO))) at all. The vocals sounded like the singer was half asleep, which I always thought complimented the music perfectly. On their "Flower of Disease" album features both the mouth harp and the harmonica, giving some of the songs a real bluesy feel.
Lastly there's Zombi. They aren't really metal at all, but they're on Relapse, so that has to be good for some sort of metal cred. They play dark soundtrack style synth music. Like if Dario Argento owned a really evil planetarium...or something. Thats really the best description I can offer.
 
 
werwolf
07:13 / 03.10.05
wow! interesting what people think metal is... ALICE IN CHAINS? JESU? LIGHTNING BOLT? metal? oh well...

i'd recommend KHANATE (doom-metal-sludge-noise-something) if you're interested in things that are not really metal but border on it. there have also been some other bands and labels in that vein suggested and i have nothing sensible to add at the moment.

some out there in your face and interesting metal are the latest records by ANAAL NATHRAKH, DECEMBER WOLVES and alwasy THE BERZERKER. sonic destruction can go a long way. dave grohl's PROBOT project is also pretty decent metal. you might also want to keep track of the output of bands like MESHUGGAH and HYPOCRISY. the quality of their efforts varies, but (for instance), MESHUGGAH's latest record is a brilliant piece of math-fusion-metal. and then there's of course OPETH - 'still life' is fantastic. oh, and don't forget BEECHER! very nice!

yeah, there's loads and loads more, but i guess you can start with these.
 
 
werwolf
07:18 / 03.10.05
ooooh, almost forgot (and it has already been mentioned): MASTODON!
their next record will be with us and i am SO LOOKING FORWARD TO IT! yaaaay!

and of course i have to recommend my favorite bands: ENTOMBED, because what they do is still original and nobody has yet managed to copy their death 'n' roll, and of course NAPALM DEATH, no need to say anything about ND i think.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
07:39 / 03.10.05
Thanks for all the reccomendations.

wow! interesting what people think metal is... ALICE IN CHAINS? JESU? LIGHTNING BOLT? metal? oh well...

See, no offense meant to werwolf, but this is the kind of comment that puts me off metal: y'know, there's metal and none-metal, but the worst thing of all is teh evil false metal, etc.
 
 
haus of fraser
08:14 / 03.10.05
See, no offense meant to werwolf, but this is the kind of comment that puts me off metal: y'know, there's metal and none-metal, but the worst thing of all is teh evil false metal,

hee hee, exactly! Death to False MEATAL!

I've been quite enjoying Death from above 1979 who the Guardian Guide has reliably informed me are metal (although like Legba i'd hate to be misinformed)- a drummer who sings and yelps and a bass player/ synth player- add a few theraminy feedback type noises and your kind of heading into a mixture between lightening bolt and The White stripes (circa white blood cells). A very loud stripped back noise- whether its metal or false metal i don't care it definitely rawks....
 
 
Seth
09:53 / 03.10.05
Noxagt play unusual, mostly instrumental, metal using a bass, violin, and drum trio that has to be heard to be believed. I honestly didn't know violins could make that kind of noise.

They're playing at the Junction in Bristol on Monday 10th October. With Hunting Lodge and Geisha.
 
 
Red Cross Iodized Salt
14:14 / 03.10.05
I've been finding myself listening to a lot of the bands listed upthread of late, but I'm not really sure what got me started with this crop of art-school metal (or math metal or new metal or whatever it's being called). Probably Lightning Bolt or The Locust, neither of which I’d have thought of as metal when I first heard them. Meshuggah quickly became another firm favorite (they have one of the most amazing bass sounds I've ever heard and marked the point where I realized that I was listening to metal) but the one I'm loving the most is Arab on Radar, who have the best oooh-aren't-we-naughty faux black metal song titles and sound like an angry metal Trumans Water.
 
 
MacDara
17:13 / 03.10.05
Agoraphobic Nosebleed just put out (or are about to put out) a new one, called Honky Reduction. Just sayin'.

Actually, Honky Reduction was ANb's first album; it came out on Relapse around 1998 or 1999. It's pretty good, but Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope is their masterpiece.

Since I mentioned Relapse, and other people have namedropped Relapse bands, I think another group that needs to be mentioned is The Dillinger Escape Plan. Awesome, super-tight, mind-bending time changes. They are something to behold live.

I would file Converge under the 'interesting metal' category too, even though most would call them hardcore. But Jacob Bannon's vocals are straight out of the grindcore tradition, and the blastbeats on their classic Jane Doe owe more to the likes of Napalm Death than to most US hardcore bands.

I think I should also note Cave In as a particularly interesting example of what metal can be. If you only know them from NME features and their horrible last album Antenna, you might scarcely believe that just seven years ago they recorded one of the heaviest albums of the 'metalcore' genre, Until Your Heart Stops.

I didn't see anyone mention Botch either. They were an amazing band from Seattle/Tacoma; totally original, angular metal. Their Hydra Head album We Are the Romans is a hallmark that any discerning heavy music fan needs in their collection. Funnily enough, I discovered them via a compilation put out by Sub Pop (of all people) called Is It Dead?..., which is worth getting for a look into the metal underground as it was at the turn of the century.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
18:31 / 03.10.05
Cave In are a bit funny. Their last item sounded like Foo Fighters (didn't the two tour together, or am I getting mixed up here?) but in recent shows they've been playing stuff that sounds like Mastodon. Circle of life man...
Speaking of circles: Circle Takes the Square are Interesting Metal(tm): they sound like, deep breath, Cradle of Filth meets Cursive. But good. Male/female vocals, electronics, atmospherics, all that good stuff.
I'm listening to Arab on Radar right now, and they're quite definitely teh interaresting mEtAl. Locust fans should check them out.
And lastly, a big shout out to my Dorsetshire homies Electric Wizard. They're Doom Metal done right and everybody and his momma and his baby's momma needs a copy of Come My Fanatics.
 
 
MacDara
21:13 / 03.10.05
Arab on Radar were an odd beast. They started out as a dance-punk band, heavy on the bass groove (check out The Stolen Singles on Three One G if you don't believe me). After that they hooked up with the incomparable Weasel Walter and got progressively noisier and noisier, which resulted in Soak the Saddle and Yahweh or the Highway -- which are more Metal Machine Music than metal, if you get my drift. After that they broke up, but two of them started a new band called The Chinese Stars, which basically reverted to the dance-punk that AoR started with. Full circle.

If you like AoR, and Lightning Bolt too, you'd also like the early stuff by Black Dice, before they hooked up with DFA and swapped their instruments for samplers.

And I almost forgot -- Oxes. Twin guitars, radio amps, tongues firmly in cheeks. Great stuff. They pissed of Arab on Radar fans royally.
 
 
Crux Is This City's Protector.
22:57 / 03.10.05
Hunh. I stand corrected on Honky Reduction; I guess my copy was mislabeled. As for DFA 1979, they are not in fact metal—but that's not why they suck.

I'll throw one more band out there: DEATH, of course! Not only did they (arguably) INVENT death metal, but they went on to completely progress into an amazing, timeless tech-metal group; through their career they never lost their relevance, or their appeal. Later stuff would be best, I think, for the less purely metallic in orientation.
 
 
Seth
00:14 / 04.10.05
A bunch of links to a bunch of bands, some of which loosely fit the mandate for this thread.

My favourites from the above link are Geisha, Mugstar, the aforementioned Chinese Stars, Big Joan, Comanechi and Team Brick.
 
 
werwolf
06:58 / 04.10.05
[quote Legba Rex] See, no offense meant to werwolf, but this is the kind of comment that puts me off metal: y'know, there's metal and none-metal, but the worst thing of all is teh evil false metal, etc. [/quote]

no offense taken, because that was not what i meant at all. i found it only curious and interesting how differently people define musical categories. not that it matters: if you like it, you like it and that's all that matters. but it is especially interesting in discussions. somebody says 'metal' and everybody thinks of something else. that's all i meant.
as a matter of fact 'trve metalliacs' hate my guts, because i dare to listen to other music besides holy metal. and lots of different things at that. : )

but to stay with the topic, you might also want to check out CRYPTOPSY. they're in the grind and death vein, but have become reknown for their impeccable timing and sometimes odd quirks (jazz samples and things like that) that they throw in their recordings once in a while.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:49 / 04.10.05
On a slightly older tip, I've recently rediscovered the wonders of the Young Gods' "L'Eau Rouge"- clearly a metal album, despite the Gods having nary a guitarist in their number at that point- Wagnerian swathes of rifftastic RAWK!!! seamlessly patched together from guitar samples. (I think it's been deleted, but you can probably pick a copy up somewhere and there's a new "best of" about. I really must start a Young Gods thread one of these days).
 
 
Mmothra
21:42 / 04.10.05
A few additional recommendations

Hey Colossus, who bridge doom-metal and hardcore.

Conifer, who use samples much in the same way Pelican, Isis, and Old Man Gloom do to add textural interest. Really excellent treated cookie monster vocals, too.

Speaking of which, Old Man Gloom truly deserves the mantle of thinking critter's metal. Delicious.

Other bands that I find pretty inspiring are EMIT, Burmese, Orthrelm (and side-project Octis), and of course, local favorites Neurosis.

Mark
 
 
MacDara
22:15 / 04.10.05
Yeah, Burmese are great. They've got two bassists and two drummers now, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't heard their most recent record yet though. Any use?

I bought one of their albums (Monkeys Tear Man To Shreds...) from tUMULt when the label still sold direct; Andee the owner included a nice thank you note. It's the small things...
 
 
The Return Of Rothkoid
00:24 / 05.10.05
Seconding Hey Colossus: their stuff is really, really great.

I spose Neurosis would come under here - as would Oxbow. If you haven't got An Evil Heat, then check it out, as it's a terrifying piece of work. They seem to be in the UK fairly often, so you might even get a chance to get a dose of the business if that's where you are.

Thinking of Hey Colossus gives me pause: have a look at almost anything that's on Crucial Blast. There's a bit of hardcore-styled stuff, but they focus mostly on metal/doom metal, that kind of thing, as well as some excellent, Lustmord-esque discs. I've taken a punt on a couple of albums there, and I've rarely been disappointed with what they've turned up. Their store is found here, and I can recommend trading with the guy - I've never had any worries.

Would Boris come under the umbrella of this discussion?
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
10:31 / 05.10.05
They most certainly would. "Amplifier Worship" is a solid gold bit of metal nonsense.

I must put in a vote for Toadliquor who, despite being signed to Southern Lord (if they're still going), seem to be a bit ignored. Their album "Hortator's Lament" is a thunderous slab of muck spreader riffage, with some of the most existentially anguished vocals I have ever heard. If it's still around I'd definitely check it out.
 
 
eye landed
08:53 / 26.12.05
you probably all know apocalyptica, the metal cellists. they could be good but they just do the same thing all the time. some instrumentalists who know how to use their time signatures are dysrhythmia, sleep terror, sefton (america), and circle (finland). they all share something with lightning bolt, thanks for which.

antaeus is an aggressive french outfit with unorthodox spellings and an album called cut your flesh and worship satan. in the no-possible-way-you-can-understand-the-lyrics-for-the-grunting camp, but lots of balls-out-ness, if thats a word.

anything mike patton does is good (afaik) but isnt always metal-- even within one song. his e.p. with dillinger escape plan is a highlight of both careers. i guess pig latin would be the song to download, but when good dogs do bad things has a wonderful crooning denouement.

for the poor lost soul who suggested therion, i might hazard amon amarth. no opera, but plenty of mythology. for lovers of opera, rhapsody makes hormonal music about dragons and an eemerald sword, occasionally in italian. and kotipelto (dude from stratovarius) does the egyptian thing with less subtlety but more vibrato than nile. dimmu borgir sounds like chamber of filth but sometimes sings in norse or something.

i found a couple decent bands following opeths trail of influence. morbid angel is a touchstone for dark and extreme scandanavian metal. their lyrics are gnostic hermetic satanist something, the vocals are distinctive for evil grunts, and they have beautiful acoustic interludes. porcupine tree is sort of power-prog trying to be metal and radiohead at the same time.

skyclad is everybodys second favourite folk-fusion, after those madmen from blackpool of course, and with more edge. they have a fiddle, activist lyrics sung in a wonderful raw barroom style-- and depending on the album, more or less wanky guitar solos, headbangin riffs, or softer melodic folk tunes.

im canadian, but the only good published canadian metal i can think of is strapping young lad. im gonna see a slew of sweaty local metal on new years eve. \m/
 
 
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06:03 / 29.12.05
^as for Canadian bands you definitely should be checking out Woods of Ypres from Toronto and Unexpect from Montreal. Also Into Eternity and Kataklysm are ok.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
19:33 / 01.01.06
On an Interesting Metal tip: Agorophobic Nosebleed have released a 2 cd set collecting a lot of their early work (about 120 songs). It's called Bestial Machines and you should probably buy it. No discussion.
 
 
Michelle Gale
22:49 / 10.01.06
je suis recomende Pelican, c'est supercool! Its metal but you dont feel all guilty after listening to it. Clever metal with artfulness rather than rarrr, not that theres anything wrong with rarrr.

Envy on mogwais label, as well are tres grande, the songs are pretty and shit.
 
  

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