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Magical screw ups.

 
 
Madman in the ruins.
14:53 / 30.09.05
Of course we are all perfect, no one ever makes mistakes.
Yeah Right.
What happens if you prefome the LBRP to the wrong quaters, cos your in a strage location and didn't bring a compass?
Well you feel like someone slaps you round the head, removes your head and puts in on 90' out. I felt drunk, I was physically stumbling around and dizzy. Till I figured out what I had done wrong and did another one to straigten it all out.
What happens when you preform the middle pillar exerise wrong and mix your Spheres up?
ZZZzzzzzzzzz its like a knockout drug, the energy flows out of the body and all you want to do is sleep.
Both of these happend a while ago now I'm brillaint and never make mistakes (And if you belive that theres a timeshare I would like to sell you)

But serously, Sharing our mistakes is a learing experice too.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
15:24 / 30.09.05
Most of my mistakes have been of the non-flashy type, where nothing terribly dramatic happens but the spell goes phut. I had a long run of faliure and lacklustre success through my tendancy to pile every damn working I did with so much "and harm it none" stuff that the poor things couldn't get airborne. Even a simple sigil working had to include my special little no-harm doodle. Of course my results were utterly pants.

I've since abandoned that kind of practice and am feeling much happier for it, although I still have longstanding issues with magic-for-gain that I'm working through.

My favourite spectacular faliure occured when I was 15. At that age I was still mired deep in the realm of Fluff, surrounded by book-club texts derived from a diluted version of high ceremonial magick. One particular text had a chapter on working with elementals. It so happened that I was flunking GCSE chemistry at the time, and I decided that a working with the element of Air would be just the thing to pull my fat out of the fire.

The working went splendidly; so splendidly that not only did I scrape through my GCSE but I ended up with (what I would characterise as) an air elemental in my room for some days afterwards. This manifested as a vague presence, random chills, shadowy figures, and stuff getting broken like it was going out of fasion. Of course I had no idea what to do about it and just had to put up with the sitch until things calmed down.

Later on I read some of the primary material that the book had obviously drawn on, including a passage by Dion Fortune in which she described the side-effects of an air elemental leaving her bereft of crockery and drinking out of a tin mug, something conveniently ommitted by the book I'd read.
 
 
Quantum
16:52 / 30.09.05
Two lifts from my seventh floor workplace to the ground floor. Last night 9pm going home, I got in one, two friends got in another, as a gag my mate went 'Haha, let's race the lifts' and I smiled a smug smile. No magic involved (intentionally) but sure enough I got out first, they were trapped in the lift for 40 minutes, firemen had to come and force the doors to get them out.
I got blamed for spooky magics, so I just smiled and told him not to challenge me, 'See what you get?'.

But it was just coincidence, I feel no guilt.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
17:28 / 30.09.05
Sez you.
 
 
Quantum
18:01 / 30.09.05
It's all about the intent they say, I can't be held responsible for lucky breaks I accidentally unconsciously predict that benefit me in a seemingly coincidental way...

maybe I should apologise.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
22:32 / 30.09.05
In retrospect, I reckon that my biggest mistake has been trying to avoid making mistakes. There's this concept I came across in learning language: developmental errors. These are mistakes that you cannot avoid, because they're a necessary stage that you have to go through. You have to incorrectly conjugate irregular verbs for a bit while the grammar settles in; likewise, you have to deal with the fallout from using poorly-understood "rules" to deal with new and untried situations and beings.

It's a good idea to learn as much as you can and to take precautions, but eventually you're going to have to get in there and get yer feet wet.

"Look if you like, but you will have to leap."
—W. H. Auden
 
 
Katherine
05:27 / 01.10.05
What happens if you prefome the LBRP to the wrong quaters, cos your in a strage location and didn't bring a compass?

Didn't quite do that but I did for the first few attempts have the angels in the wrong quarters *hangs head in shame*, I got a shifting feeling as if I should be moving around. The thing I'm redfaced about is it took over a week before I realised why, and was when I read a full version of the LBRP with notes.
 
 
daynah
16:07 / 02.10.05
I do Sunday Services with children at the buddhist center so we have a LOT of flub ups. At first, Kelsang Nyema (the nun leading the class, I'm just the assistant) and I were sort of anal. You have to do everything right.

After getting so many I dunno how many gallons of blessed water slipped on you, you tend to not worry about it as much during water offerings.

Babies can cry during meditations and it wont phase you.

Parents will bring their kids in half way through class, walk in the door and yell , "Finally, we're here!" right in the crucial moment when we finally have 90% of the children's attention.

Empty offerings are made. Children who are supposed to be meditating on peaceful and unpeaceful minds are convinced that they never have had an unpeaceful thought in their entire lives (when you saw them cry 30 minutes earlier).

And when all of this settles in and you realize that the best offering you could possibly give to the Buddhas is "the potential of all of these children" and you feel the energy arising in your heart...

three children decide to fight over who gets to sit in your perfectly placed lotus positioned lap.

So... maybe the point of these mistakes isn't to learn how not to make them again but to learn -about- them? What can you learn from the Middle Pillar mistake instead of "That's not the way to do it"? Maybe more about how energy works. Maybe about concentration, putting more concentration into doing daily tasks.

I dunno, since the most obvious "blunders" I get are ones that I don't want to avoid, I think I learn more from them.

As for ones that don't involve children? Cloth altars + candles = fire. Many tea candles put close together also makes big fire. If you're possibly hypoglycemic, eat before you meditate. When you prostrate, leave your head room to touch the floor not the corner of the table. When controling the music for the evening, get the volume ready before hand.
 
 
Madman in the ruins.
09:31 / 04.10.05
So... maybe the point of these mistakes isn't to learn how not to make them again but to learn -about- them? What can you learn from the Middle Pillar mistake instead of "That's not the way to do it"? Maybe more about how energy works. Maybe about concentration, putting more concentration into doing daily tasks.


Which is kind of what I was aiming for with this thread.

Cos in meatspace-every Magical practiconer is 100% perfect, Havent you noticed that?
 
 
Z. deScathach
19:44 / 12.10.05
7 years ago. It was winter, one of the deadliest in recent history. I'm talking cold so bad that you had to cover your mouth to keep the air from burning the inside of your lungs. A wind chill of -75 degrees F. The car broke down. Small town, no public transportation. Panic. Real fear of death.

I did a healing working for the car. My partner at the time managed to talk a family member into borrowing her some money for a new car. She had actually found a very good deal on a used pickup.

Suddenly, the family member got into her head that she wanted to fix the car. Even though said car was a piece of crap. She wanted to fix that crap car at any cost, no matter what. My partner pleaded with her to change her mind, pointing out correctly that it would cost less to buy the pickup than it would to fix the car. No matter, she was determined to fix the car. She would have nothing else.

Later, after it was over, my partner commented how strange it was that she couldn't convince her mother to buy the pickup. She must have seen something in my face, for she looked at me with a withering look that I will never forget, and said, "What.....did.....you.....DO!!!!"

It screwed with my relationship for some time.
 
 
razorsmile
13:12 / 13.10.05
Practical mistakes...a coven thing...we did an 'angel' (star/sky/heaven/generally somewhere up there rather than down there) entity invocation where we essentially went fishing and wanted to see what we got. This all worked fine and we'd managed to get some interesting stuff coming through over the course of two or three workings but it all began to be a little challenging for one member and so we decided to close down the working and banish. Trouble was we'd made the entity attach to a clay talisman and every time we tried to get rid of the damn thing some mad shit would happen...in the end a crone friend told us that they thought it a little daft that we'd made the talisman in clay when it would have been better in wax, wood or paper, something easily destrucible...so we ended up having to spend a fair amount of time grinding the fucker up and getting very muddy before washing in the ocean. Obvious in retrospect, but isn't eveything?

The other humourous working was a Kali puja, part of a series of workings in a squat temple (there's a write up of some of this series in Julian Vayne's Now that's what I call chaos magic). The rite involved firing off some destruction at a rather shitty military industrial installation with Kali's support...so sigils inscribed on the back of a ripped up image of the installation during the puja, then set alight and dropped into the cauldron in turn, so there's maybe a dozen of us dropping these little bits of lighted paper into the cauldron. Thing is we'd forgotten that this was the cauldron we'd been melting wax in to build the large alter piece which consisted of skulls, teeth etc all bound together...so as the pieces of paper drop into the cauldron they eventually melt enough wax to catch alight, which then escalates rapidly into a six foor flame coming out of the damn thing like a dragon's roar...which in the basement of a squat with cloth hangings round all the walls and a cauldron no more than three feet from any of us is a little disconcerting. For a little while we all just sat there, slightly tranced, until reality bit and someone grabbed a fire extinguisher (always be prepared children ;-) and let if off. This insightful move would have solved the problem save for the fact that it was a powder extinguisher - right for the job I'll have you know, powders on oils and all that - and let out a huge gush of white smoke-like powder powerful enough to send the cauldron and its six foot flame scooting across the temple floor, narrowly missing one of the circle. The room, now filled with a breathdefying cloud of smoke suddenly came alive as we all legged it out the back fireescape door whilst the fire extinguisher was opened up and the cauldron blasted until it submitted. Naturally we all found it highly amusing and banished with a lot of laughter...and a few splutters...and the odd cross word.
 
 
Earlier than I thought
13:34 / 22.10.05
As a complete bleedin' amateur, possibly the greatest mistake I've made so far was a reference to 'charging sigils in a quiet place at work'. Now I meant by meditation, but people's minds are in the gutter...
 
 
Isadore
16:59 / 22.10.05
For a few weeks I've had some trouble getting the order of things right in the LRP. I've memorized all the bits, which all make sense; I find particularly clever about the whole thing how the direction in which the pentagram is drawn comes from spirit to material for invoking or vice versa for banishing (I'm glad all those years studying theory are good for something). But for some reason I keep/kept forgetting to put the archangel invocations in the middle, which are of course rather important.

At one point I particularly screwed up and jumped straight from the pentagram drawing/names of God bit to the "Before me flames..." part and it was as if someone reached over and tapped me politely on the shoulder. I grounded the whole thing and started over, and everything worked out fine, but since then I have been better (though not perfect) about taking it slow and doing each and every piece in order as it should be.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone else feel like Michael is holding your hand when you do the archangel invocations? I find it very strange. I can feel the others there, faintly, but it's as though I'm actually holding something warm and slightly shivering in my right hand from when I call Vir through til the grounding. (Sorry if this is threadrot; feel free to ignore.)
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:53 / 22.10.05
(I don't specifically "feel" the angels around me when I do HCM stuff, except as distant presences. However, I do get distinct tactile experiences at times during my spirit and deity-work and whilst using Reiki.)

I guess my recent screwups have been more nebulous and harder to define... mostly, they consist of presenting an unsuitable offering to the powers I work with; also overstepping the mark, going too far and being slapped down for my pains--or conversely, being too backward in coming forward, ignoring a being that wants to talk to me. Conequences vary; anything from emotional disturbances to physical ailments, to a wave of disapproval or outright fury that has almost knocked me off my feet at times. Injuries such as burns are common (Freyja tends to burn my fingers with the hot items on her shrine if I touch her necklace without asking). Ignoring deities for too long usually gets me some kind of serious attention-grab, which can take various forms but will generally be pretty hair-raising.

I'm working on the assumption that the risks will increase the further in I get: as the connection between me and my Gods gets stronger, the fall-out will be heavier. Getting things right will be easier, so the consequences for sloppy practice will be more severe. The rewards, however, are correspondingly great.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
17:04 / 24.10.05
Not so much a screw up as a bottle-out, I had a (frankly quite scary) encounter with what, at the time, I took to be a malefic spirit, and was pretty sure was Set or an aspect similar to him at the time...for some reason I was not too happy at his attempt to get inside my body, and quite knackered myself out warding and parrying him off. Quite freaky, it was.

In retrospect, with the huevos of being safely back in Kansas, I kind of think I should have just let the thing in and seen what happened. Maybe not though. I certainly didn't want to at the time.
 
 
rising and revolving
18:25 / 24.10.05
"Just out of curiosity, does anyone else feel like Michael is holding your hand when you do the archangel invocations? I find it very strange. I can feel the others there, faintly, but it's as though I'm actually holding something warm and slightly shivering in my right hand from when I call Vir through til the grounding."

Yes to this, and also to the whole 'tap on the shoulder' thing when you screw up. I'm primarily kinetic, so that tends to be where the great bulk of my sensations come in. Sure, I get visual (and audio - lots of audio) but I'm best with feeling what's going on.

I often get the Archangels either pulling at me, or pushing. This tends to mean as I invoke I tend to sway off balance - before me Raphael (lean forward), behind me Gabriel (lean back then rock to center), to my right Michael (rock to right), on my left Auriel (rock left then STICK). By the end I'm rock solid in the center of my world, humming with the tension of being stretched in all directions.
 
  
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