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Scrambled Password Bogus Email
09:52 / 26.09.05
So, I will of course do my own research, but I thought I'd drop by and see if anybody hereabouts has the drop on the mythic significance / shamanic cultural resonance of peacocks.Well, one particularly beautiful and enormous peacock, to be precise.

Obligado.
 
 
Ganesh
09:58 / 26.09.05
Ganesh's warlike brother, Kartikeya rides a peacock, and I think Saraswati's sometimes shown with a peacock mount rather than a swan.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
10:04 / 26.09.05
I think the giant bird, the Simurgh, from Iranian/Persian mythology, that had seen the world destroyed several times and thus knew lots and lots, was based on a Peacock.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
10:08 / 26.09.05
Just remebered this, as well...

More on them over at metareligion...

Looks like I've a lot of reading to do...thanks for the link Ganesh.

Any more?
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
10:13 / 26.09.05
Yow, that bit about the Pleiades in the Subramanian link just gave me shivers...
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
10:20 / 26.09.05
Peacock feathers are important symbols of Oshun, Orisha of the river, love, sensuality, joy, sex, prosperity and pleasure in Santeria. They are also related to Yemaya, Orisha of the Oceans, Mother of Fishes.
 
 
Ganesh
10:20 / 26.09.05
Peacocks are also associated in Greek mythology with Hera, and there's some sort of convoluted story about Zeus defeating the many-eyed titan Argos and his eyes becoming the tail feathers. Or something.

I think the peacock's often used to denote vanity, particularly 'wifely' vanity...
 
 
Unconditional Love
10:35 / 26.09.05
Taw'us Melké, the PEACOCK ANGEL.

PEACOCK ANGEL

Indeed, it is possibly the Yazidis themselves, by tabooing all mention of the name Shaitan, or Satan, as a libel upon this angel, who have fostered the idea that the Peacock Angel is identical with the dark fallen angel whom men call the Tempter. In one of the holy books of the Mandaeans the Peacock Angel, called by them Malka Tausa, is portrayed as a spirit concerned with the destinies of this world, a prince of the world of light who, because of a divinely appointed destiny, plunged into the darkness of matter. I talked of this with the head of the qawwâls in Baashika who, honest man, was not very clear himself about the point, for one of the charms of the Yazidis is that they are never positive about theology. It seemed probable to me, after this talk, that the Peacock Angel is, in a manner, a symbol of Man himself, a divine principle of light experiencing an avatar of darkness, which is matter and the material world. The evil comes from man himself, or rather from his errors, stumblings and obstinate turnings down blind alleys upon the steep path of being. In repeated incarnations he sheds his earthliness, his evil, or else, if hopelessly linked to the [7] material, he perishes like the dross and illusion that he is.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
10:37 / 26.09.05
Wow. That's a lot of reading.

Cheers Out!
 
 
Ganesh
10:43 / 26.09.05
I guess that's the Secret Origin of King Peacock in Alan Moore's Top 10, eh?
 
 
Unconditional Love
11:10 / 26.09.05
Dont know moores stuff that well, heard some of his audio, grand egyptian theatre of something or other.First came across reference to him in a book called from the ashes of angels by andrew somebody or other and got into that by being a goth and having concentrated for far too long on fields of the nephilim lyrics, funny how things fall together.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
12:33 / 26.09.05
Interesting indeed about the Oshun reference...

Rather synchronistically, my I Ching for the day was Gua 37, Chia Jen, which is often translated as 'The Clan' or 'Family' but can also mean 'Household'...and I see that 'Creativity in decorating home and temple is a way of honoring Oshun'...also the sensuality angle, and honey, of all things...mmmmmm.

OK. Plans are afoot! Thanks GL. More research required.

That Yezidi thread, and the notes regarding sufism and also Shemyaza are v. intersting as well, especially this: The number of YZID is 31 which is that of AL, LA, LAShTAL, The Book of the Law and the Aiwaz current."

'Twas my 31st birthday.
 
 
archim3des
22:04 / 26.09.05
yeah, melek taus

there's a really good article on iblis as the peacock angel in yezidi belief

there's a pretty decent article on the disinfo site called "the angelic cultus in the middle east".

as a matter of fact here it is.
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id1340/pg1/

hakim bey mentions him a couple of times, though i forget in which pieces.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
23:06 / 26.09.05
Thanks for all these suggestions.

Murugan/Kartikeya as Christ, even

Interesting that from the Yezidi perspective the peacock is (but isn't) Shaitan and/or, looking further into it, Azaziel (another fallen angel, leader of the pack), right through to matey boy in the link above claiming Christ is a syncretised version of Kartikeya/Murugan/Subramanian...All peacocks.

Then there's Oshun. Not entirely unlike Venus, the ruling planet of my astrological sign...and...hmmmm.

I think I feel an altar coming on.
 
 
Unconditional Love
09:45 / 27.09.05
And venus is considered by some as the first star of morning ie the morning star, venus as a boy, no venus as a star, lucifer.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
09:45 / 27.09.05
This is of absolutely no interest or use to anyone but it's interesting to see Oshun get mentioned in a thread about peacocks, as my surname is a corruption of peacock, maybe I really should take up GL's offer of an introduction... Sorry, as you were, don't mind me.

Oh but Money$hot, if you want a photo of me winking, just say the word.
 
 
Quantum
10:29 / 27.09.05
Secret Origin of King Peacock in Alan Moore's Top 10, eh?

Not that secret, really. Although how he was born a Yezidi I'm not sure 'It is impossible to convert to Yazidism, you must be born one'. Moore's poetic license no doubt, or maybe King P. should be drawn more middle-eastern.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
11:32 / 27.09.05
The word is said, Lady. Post the pic.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
13:22 / 25.10.05
Just found this on a pretty obscure site...quite intersting though, for the record.

The peacock symbolizes eternal life. It also symbolizes the resurrection of our Lord because it sheds it old feathers every year and grows, newer, brighter ones each year. The peacock can also symbolize immortality. This is based on an ancient legend that says that the peacock's flesh is incorruptible. If the peacock is portrayed drinking from a vase it symbolizes a christian drinking the waters of eternal life.
 
 
Unconditional Love
15:44 / 25.10.05
Peacock in buddhism

Amitabha
The association of this jewel-tone bird with its sun-like fan of a tail evocative of the Wheel of Dharma -- the Buddha's teachings; its connection to the ideas of immortality and compassion, and the unification of views or opposites, as well as the correspondence with the Garden which is the Pure Land, demonstrates in Mahayana Buddhism the archetypical nature of the relationship between the peacock and Amitabha.

In the depiction of this Buddha of Eternal Light, he is seated under a tree; we see its flowers and leaves peeking through the pavilion. Tenga Rinpoche says, " ... birds, in particular, have strong desire and craving, so, as a symbol of craving transformed into discriminating wisdom, Amitabha's throne is supported by peacocks."

There are actually eight peacocks that support his throne, one at each corner of the base. They stand for the idea that no matter the misdeeds committed during one's lifetime[s], rebirth is possible in Sukhavati, the Pure Land of Great Bliss that is the Western Paradise of Opameh [Tibetan for Amitabha]. Any and all evil-doing is eventually absorbed.

Six peacock feathers arranged as a fan ornament the vase [bumpa] and sprinkling utensil used for distributing the blessing or purifying water in Tibetan Buddhist empowerments and other rituals. In this role they are not only a symbol of compassion, but also a symbol of immortality by virtue of their capacity to absorb and neutralize, and to act as a universal antidote against poisons including the kleshas [imperfections or obscurations] such as anger, greed and ignorance that are inherently human.
 
 
iamus
21:04 / 31.10.05
The legend of Kuan Yin and the Peacock.

Kuan Yin is the white bodhisattva of compassion, one of the most popular of Chinese Buddhist deities. She's considered to be the feminine form of Avalokitesvara, the Indian Buddhist bodhisattva of compassion, worship of whom was introduced to China in the third century. The female expression of Kuan Yin was popularised with the introduction of Tantric Buddhism to China in the eighth century.

Springing from the above peacock myth, she is known as the "thousand-arms, thousand-eyes" bodhisattva (and is sometimes literally depicted as such in sculpture and drawing). She's the all-encompassing mother figure. Watching us with her many eyes and using her arms to spread her infinite compassion.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
07:39 / 01.11.05
That's fantastic, thanks Meludreen!
 
  
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