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Tim Tempest
21:04 / 19.09.05
Hey guys. Oddman here. I want to start up an online radio station for Barbelith...but before I do, I need to know if you would want one to be set up. Everyone give your opinions on whether or not this should be greenlit. I already talked to Mr. Coates, and he said that if the board is good with it, he is good with it.

Now, this will not be a facist radio station, and I would like to have a rotating cast of DJs eventually. I started a thread in creation, Pump Up The Volume

Everybody, tell me what you think. If everyone is on board, then we will proceed. I would like this to be a group project so that no one feels alienated, and so that we could have massive amounts of creative input from everyone.

Ideas, thoughts, complaints, questions, opinions...GO.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
21:09 / 19.09.05
I have a question and I think the facts need to be faced as demonstrated by this question: is it going to be all that great without Christian Slater in the back of the jeep evading teh man with his small but pert girlfriend driving?
 
 
Tim Tempest
21:14 / 19.09.05
Well, we might not have as much flare as Slater did...but hopefully we can make it pretty fly.

Besides, he didn't have a very cool handle. We've all got great names.

Except for that guy whose name is all numbers...I can't figure out how to pronounce that.

And I'm a cunning linguist.
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
21:24 / 19.09.05
What would a facist radio station sound like?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
21:27 / 19.09.05
Horrible I should think. The opposite of the late night left wing lectures they sometimes play on Resonance?
 
 
Shrug
21:28 / 19.09.05
Anti-visage propaganda I would expect.
"Features down with that sort of thing" etc.
 
 
Tim Tempest
21:38 / 19.09.05
Well, those make sense, but by fascist, I really should have said dictatorial.
 
 
w1rebaby
21:42 / 19.09.05
Will we have to wear cock-rings?

I can contribute some technical expertise; not so much with streaming, but I built a homebrew podcasting system for another internet radio station recently (which didn't get bloody used due to lack of people paying any fucking attention, grrrr) so I know about that side of it.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
21:48 / 19.09.05
Anti-visage propaganda

Don't fade to grey! Go beige!

That Steve's Strange?
 
 
Rage
21:55 / 19.09.05
People who read comics have radio stations? I think I might need to consult my army of subcultural 14 year olds here....

Actually, I think this is a nice idea, and am quite surprised that it took you guys this long to come up with it.

I do think that someone should record fascist sounding samples of some of the posts here. Distortion is fun. Oh yes.
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
22:14 / 19.09.05
O Q+R, why is it that you talk like the voices in my head?

And, for the record, I'm in, both in terms of possible DJing, general helping out and dogsbodying, providing home-grown Barbe-music if you get really desperate, and most importantly, for cock rings.
 
 
Persephone
22:51 / 19.09.05
You know what I think would be good --if there weren't just one Barbelith radio station, but different channels? E.g., Barbelith 1, Barbelith 2. Perhaps there could be an ombudsman to give out the numbers; but otherwise people could organize themselves in small groups, or even go solo...
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
23:38 / 19.09.05
People who read comics have radio stations?

People who hang out here read comic books ? I came here to get away from those people!
 
 
Tim Tempest
03:13 / 20.09.05
Different channels...brilliant idea Persephone. That could be cool. Like an everything station, a rock station, an indy-band station...That could have potential. But I think that bandwith could be limiting to this idea. Several streaming stations at once off of one site? We'd be techno-revolutionaries if we could pull it off properly.
 
 
Persephone
10:32 / 20.09.05
Oh, I guess I was thinking about a podcasting format. With multiple podcasts that you could subscribe to.
 
 
invisible_al
10:41 / 20.09.05
Barbelith Broadcasting Co.

You know I was always a bit disappointed that Radio Free Barbelith couldn't be listened to (Resonance FM is close but no cigar).

But hell yeah, perhaps someone could pursuade the Brighton ICFTS boys to do a podcast for it. Or how about the Flux half hour?
 
 
Persephone
11:57 / 20.09.05
Ha ha, yeah... I have a program guide for that...

Here it is.
 
 
Tim Tempest
22:07 / 20.09.05
We have 5165 members and counting, so, I think that most of the board should be cool with this project before we proceed. I don't know what number would be representative...I mean, are all 5165 members even active??
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
22:19 / 20.09.05
True, but, to be honest, what objections could a user have to there being a Barbelith radio station? Obviously, due to the flavour of the place we'd have to make a vote thread or something, but it's not as if the existence of a radio station would put anyone's nose out of joint...?
 
 
Tim Tempest
22:27 / 20.09.05
Tarquin, you are right.

And I was thinking that when it gets made, we could have a whole song request thread.

Now, tech-gurus, head on over to the creation forum and post your ideas on how we could have multiple DJs all over the world working on one radio station. Lets figure out the technical aspects of that idea.
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
22:29 / 20.09.05
Erm, could we not have multiple serverthings? I know a few people who run the b3ta radio I mentioned in the other thread, and I think it could be done with more than one DJ at a time. Apart from anything else, if we're organised we wouln't have to have multiple simultaneous DJs, which would solve a lot of technical problems.
 
 
Tim Tempest
22:31 / 20.09.05
Isn't this exciting???
 
 
Tim Tempest
22:32 / 20.09.05
Tarquin, that makes sense.

Good deducing.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
08:03 / 21.09.05
I feel there should be a Mark Millar editorial section. I'll have the surgery if necessary.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
08:12 / 21.09.05
I'm sorry can you please describe how you're technically going to do this. I feel that might convince people to actually show some interest. Barbelith is spread over at least two continents, I think you should primarily address that.
 
 
Tim Tempest
13:54 / 21.09.05
Nina, I am still working out those details. Podcasting, or 24/7 Live...not sure yet. But technically, I really don't think it's going to be that difficult. The main problem is the legalities that I am still trying to get around.
 
 
Loomis
14:27 / 21.09.05
I assume you'll only be broadcasting songs you wrote yourself. Otherwise you're a sellout.

I can't believe I'm the first one in with that remark.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:54 / 21.09.05
I think it sounds like a wicked idea.
 
 
Tim Tempest
17:33 / 21.09.05
A sellout? Whatchoo talkin' bout foo? This is a radio station, so we will have to play music to appeal to all of the Barbelithers. How can I guarantee that music that I make, (if in fact I ever get around to making it) would please most of the listeners? This station will be for everybody, so we will play everything.

A sellout...dude, that's lame. This isn't like I'm even making money off of this...it's a labour of love.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
17:38 / 21.09.05
Oddman, I think Loomis is referencing this. A thread he didn't start himself.

Sellout.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:38 / 21.09.05
Oddboy... I take it you haven't been reading the "Sellout" thread in Music... I assume Loomis was referring to that rather than having a go at you or anything. Go read it- it's very entertaining.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:38 / 21.09.05
Or as Vincennes said.
 
 
Tim Tempest
21:01 / 21.09.05
Oh, well then, my apologies for being on the defensive. I haven't slept for a while...

And Oddboy? I dropped that title when I hit puberty. For a while I was depressed and confused semi-Oddman, then I found out I had ADD and I became Addman. Then I realized that Addman was a stupid name. So now I'm Oddman.

And if I get pissed off, I might turn into Oddmaniac...

But, back to the topic for a second: I really am just going to move forward on this radio project, I think. This thread has been active for a few days, and I haven't
heard any real complaints about this.

I will record a podcast pretty soon, put 4 or 5 songs on it, and ramble like a moron. I'll see if I can set it all up easily. It'll be a test. Since I haven't set up the server yet, I might even just use my cell fone to record it...
 
 
Bed Head
21:28 / 21.09.05
Just out of curiosity, what are the legalities of playing pop records on your own radio station? Who do you pay and how much will it cost to enable any barbelith DJs to play all their favourite songs?
 
 
Tim Tempest
21:50 / 21.09.05
From www.wdvl.internet.com:

"If you plan to use copyrighted material, then you need to know about how performance rights work. Yes, you can use just about any recorded material out there, as long as you pay the proper fees to the proper folks. The catch is that this can be a bit complicated.

When a radio station plays a recording of a song, a fee is due to both the owner of the copyright in the song (usually a music publisher), and the owner of the copyright in the recording itself (usually a record company). Fees for songwriters and publishers are collected by three performing rights organizations: ASCAP, BMI and SESAC. The record companies' fees are administered by the RIAA. Radio stations must register with these organizations and pay a yearly fee, which is based on revenue, audience size, etc. By the way, online broadcasts are NOT covered by the same blanket license that covers traditional broadcast, so existing radio stations that add an online channel must pay an additional fee to the performing rights organizations.

The performing rights organizations allow small fish (which includes most Internet-only broadcasters) to pay a flat, reasonable yearly fee, and are making a good effort to make the process simple for the millions of small operators that are springing up. Nonetheless, sorting out how to "get legal" with all four of these outfits can be time-consuming. A good primer on how performing rights relate to online broadcasting can be found at: http://www.kohnmusic.com/articles/newprimer.html."

If someone can find some loopholes, maybe we can get away without paying anything at all...though I doubt it. I'm sure who I have to pay though; Barbelith server hosting, or my local ISP...
 
  

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