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Cold Calls

 
 
haus of fraser
12:13 / 10.09.05
I've been at home 2 hours having been out for breakfast in that time i've recieved 4 cold calls on the house landline- we've only had the landline a couple of months- and we've only given the number to 5-6 people (mostly family).. So what i want to know is how do i stop the cold calls? Everytime i get one i do ask that i'm removed from the companies list- although 2 of my calls were from the '3 network'and the second one made me quite angry as i had asked to be removed only an hour earlier!

I found a website where i can register to be removed from cold calls- any other suggestions? Can we have fun/ wind up the callers? Ideas, similar stories and help would be appreciated.
 
 
COG
12:16 / 10.09.05
Act enthusiastic, say "hold on I'll just get a pen", and then wander off and do something else for a while. See how long they'll wait. I suppose companies call because it makes economic sense for them. Our only defense is to make it more uneconomic for them.
 
 
Quantum
12:27 / 10.09.05
Telephone Preference Service. Free service set up by the gov't to stop sales calls. Takes about 3 weeks to kick in.
 
 
Quantum
12:30 / 10.09.05
I'm calling people right now but for charity I hasten to add, and not cold. Walking off doesn't work, they'll call you back, a swift 'No' works wonders, or just say you're on the TPS and they'll piss off- sales companies get charged a grand for phoning tps people.

It won't work to stop calls from overseas though, but it's definitely what you need. Enjoy!
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
12:44 / 10.09.05
Was the website you used the TPS? It takes about a month, and then it usually works - apart from some telco which didn't get the idea and had someone else's (alleged) name down completely wrongly for a brand new, never used before phone number. A series of complaints and threats of referring them to Ofcom got them off our backs eventually. It's always a useful threat to say you'll put in a complaint to Ofcom anyway, and asking for the caller's supervisior and so on up the chain usually makes each person really nervous and increasingly apologetic.

There's a similar website for junk mail too

My favourite cold call was a survey about different radio stations in London. I amused the bloke doing it for about 20 miunutes dissing every one minute medley of different snippets of music I had to identify as being associated with a particular radio station. They almost all sounded like Melody FM or Capital Gold to me. It was also useful to be able to plug Resonance FM as much as possible.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
12:47 / 10.09.05
Bah, that's what happens when I wander off in the middle of writing a post...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:58 / 10.09.05
What Quantum said. But do try and be polite, or, if very pissed off, ask to speak to the manager - the person you're talking to is very likely to be someone on minimum wage, or worse still commission only, who'd rather play in the traffic than do what they're doing, all other things being equal.
 
 
Char Aina
13:07 / 10.09.05
Can we have fun/ wind up the callers?

you can.
you should be ready to accept that you will be called forever if you do this, though.
remember they have your name and number, and can distribute that as they see fit.

always get a name as soon as possible and get as many other details as you possibly can.
you dont want to be the only one being reffered to by name when they hang up.
dont get angry or shouty as they will hang up on you before you get all that.
 
 
ibis the being
13:29 / 10.09.05
I put my number on the do not call list and never got a telemarketer call again.

What I do get are people with "great business offers" of some sort, since my cell number is listed in my yellow pages ads. Then of course I also get calls from bill collectors.

My strategy is just to bore the pants off them with my sob stories about being overworked and never getting paid. It seems to work fairly well.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:34 / 10.09.05
What pisses me off is that I'm constantly bombarded with "you've won a holiday" spam with "caller withheld" ID. This is more of a problem as I only really ever use my landline for the computer or to make calls when I'm out of credit on my mobile, or to check every couple of days to make sure there're no REALLY IMPORTANT calls from my mum or anyone... which means I get all this shit as voicemail. Which I pay BT for.

I used to (for like a week and a half) have a job in telesales, so I have sympathy for people who have to actually MAKE cold calls... but this shit's all pre-recorded.
 
 
■
15:12 / 10.09.05
I had a great one a few months ago:

"Hello, I'm calling from Caledonian Magazine."
"No, you're not."
"Sorry?"
"No, you're not. I work with the former editor. It folded about three years ago."
"Oh. Are you sure?"
"You work in Leith, right? There's a company there that calls me every few months offering me a home improvement voucher even though I tell you it's a rented flat every time. They just change the name of the magazine every now and then. You're working for somone dodgy. I'd get out if I were you."
"Yeah, I thought it was a bit funny. Thanks."
"No problem, bye."

Haven't called back yet.

The other one I had fun with was a freephone number which terminated in the States that had been leaving automated messages:
"Hello [company name here]"
"Hello, this call is free, right. For me, anyway. You have to pay for it?"
"Well, sir, the company does."
"Would you mind if I ran up their bills a bit?"
"Sure, go ahead, I hate this job, anyway."
[Phone off the hook for 30 mins]

Impotent fun, but mildly satisfying. I joined FPS a few weeks ago and it seems to have worked. Please try to be nice to the poor sods on the other end, though.
 
 
Axolotl
15:22 / 10.09.05
Having got my landline less than 6 months ago I have been receving at leat one sales-call a week for a Mr Harris (not my name or my flatmate's). Each time I tell them there is no Mr Harris here, will they please stop calling, but they won't. Sometimes they even try and sell me stuff, despite my assurances that I am not Mr Harris. I try not to get irritated, as I have done cold-calling before, but sometimes I lose my rag and just hang up on them.
The only thing worse than that is the recorded messages telling me about the fabulous holidays I've won.
 
 
madfigs #32, now with wasabi
01:17 / 11.09.05
The telemarketer counter-script won't help you get any fewer calls, but it's pretty satisfying when they get annoyed at you. It's also a challenge to see how far through it you can get - I've never made it to the last few questions. A lot of people freak out and just hang up once you start asking for their name and contact info.
 
 
Triplets
01:35 / 11.09.05
Stuff I've done in the past:

* Walked into bathroom and put running electric shaver next to the handset "sorry... can't hear. breaking... back later, okay?"

* "I don't have time, can I call you back on your home number? No? I guess you don't like being called by strangers either" I did this in front of a friend who was over. Much hi-fiving was had.

* screamed at the top of my lungs for about twelve seconds. Dog not impressed.
 
 
sleazenation
14:43 / 11.09.05
I tend not to answer my landline. Anyone who needs to contact me has my mobile.
 
 
admiral sausage
19:21 / 11.09.05
About six years ago I worked for BT making outbound calls trying to sell call minder, second lines, ADSL etc. It was a pretty awful job, low pay but with big bonuses for if you met sales targets. I was completely rubbish, failed to meet any target set for me. Eventually (whilst I was on holiday) my boss had me moved to another team so i didnt fuck up his stats. I was moved to a dept where we mainly took inbound calls from people changing back to BT, occasionally we would make some outbound calls to ex customers trying to pursuade them back with temping offers like Friends and family. Not quite as shit, but still shit.
I did it for about 2 years, mainly because of the people i worked with (usual excuses for staying in a rubbish job), when we worked Sundays we used to drink gin and tonic and never answer the phone, ahhh great days. Normally in a call centre you have to wear a headset, so if a call comes through thier voice just appears in your ear, we complained that the head sets were giving us ear infections, so when a call came through the phone would ring (unless you turned the ringer off) and you would pick up the hand set. Usually when it would ring you would hit divert, and the call would bounce to whoever was sat next to you, who usually was doning the same thing as you, so would pass the call on again.
Most of the 600 odd people who worked in the call centre were graduates (usually with useless degree's , i have an Illustration BA, my mate had one in Philosophy and another has one in oceanography) BT has a real problem retaining staff as most of the people there were doing it whilst looking for a proper job, so i have some sympathy for the poor shmucks who call me when i'm "dropping the kids off at the pool" and i have to rush to the phone getting skid mark on my boxers. I've worked in a few different call centres since then, and there all shit, but are easy jobs for the money, and you can usually take the piss quite a bit.
I didnt do this, but when you get someone give you grief on the phone, a lot of people would do stuff like order them a second phone line, add stuff to their bill, send an engineer to their house, remember its not worth getting pissy with these people.

But, what really pisses me off is when you answer the phone and say hello, no answer, Hello ?(again) wait a bit, "hello this is chris calling from........" what this usually means is that he is having a conversation with the person sat next to him in the call centre and has the phone on mute whilst he finishes the conversation. Annoying, and it confuses my Gran, although most thing do that.

The only problem with the telephone preference service is that it doesnt cover call centres abroad, with call centres (or contact centres as they like to call themselves) in the UK there not allowed to make outbound calls before 09:00 or after 19:00, or on sundays, but this doesnt apply to the overseas ones.
 
 
Evil Scientist
08:00 / 12.09.05
We've taken to trying to sell them my brother's old computer when they call the house.

But my current favourite.

"Hello."

"Hello there, this is Alaska Double Glazing."

(over-the-top excitement) "Really? No shit, how the hell are you? I haven't seen you since school. Wow, that's amazing I was just thinking about you the other day. How's Paul? Do you see him much?"

"Umm, this is a call to see if you'd like to..."

(interuptting) "Oh! This is a business call? Oh sorry, it's just I had a friend at school called Alaska Double Glazing and you sound just like him."

(confused silence, then they hang up).
 
 
Brunner
11:50 / 12.09.05
I once worked for Sky TV doing telemarketing calls. While I was there they introduced a system called "Predictive Dialler" for contacting cancelled subscribers. Essentially, it was a computer based phone system that automatically dialled a new number once the previous call had finished, bringing the details onto a computer screen just as the caller answered. You WERE able to delay the next call if you really had to but supervisors were able to overide this function and at the end of the day the system produced stats for each operator showing how much time you were off the phone.

Anyway, aside from the countless times someone would answer and no screen details were provided, I remember one day when the system called the same little old lady 6 times. During the first call she had explained that it was her husband who subscribed and he had just died, hence the cancelled subscription. Although the operator was supposed to tell the system to delete her number from the list, this obviously didn't work and so she was called 5 more times. One operator was heard telling her that she'd now have more time to watch TV....
 
 
Char Aina
12:01 / 12.09.05
Usually when it would ring you would hit divert, and the call would bounce to whoever was sat next to you, who usually was doning the same thing as you, so would pass the call on again.

they dont do that in india.
 
 
Quantum
12:24 / 12.09.05
But, what really pisses me off is when you answer the phone and say hello, no answer, Hello ?(again) wait a bit, "hello this is chris calling ..

That's the predictive dialler. It's also responsible for the calls when nobody answers, it hangs up on you because no sales drones are available.

Tell your Nan the spooky hangups are from a machine not a stalker, and to contact the TPS.
 
  
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