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Isn't it Ironic?

 
 
Quantum
14:59 / 07.09.05
I found out the other day that the word 'Chav' is derived from the Romany for child, but 'Pikey' is a derogatory term for Gypsies, from the Turnpikes they used to travel. (I also discovered the Romany people were originally from India but sixteenth century English misconception labelled them as from Egypt, thus Gypsies).
Now both words are synonyms for 'Townie' (UK) despite originally being opposites.

Is this ironic? Not in the way that there being only one monopolies and mergers commission is ironic, but I think so.

This thread for ironic things you've come across, or things you're not sure are ironic, also for those still not quite getting the distinction between the metal and the rhetorical device. Like Alanis. The 'Derogatory Class Rhetoric' thread in the Headshop for more serious discussion please, flip nonsense only here.
 
 
_Boboss
15:24 / 07.09.05
i'm not satisfied with 'turnpikes'. haven't been convinced it doesn't just refer to pikes being carried by the poor, soon-dead chaps at the front of a standing army. nasty word really, but classy, not racey.
 
 
Quantum
17:26 / 07.09.05
Nah, I disagree- it's applied to travellers and vagabonds not serfs and peons. I agree it's classist not racist, but to nomads not peasants. Just made me think of ironic things and how much Alanis annoys.
 
  
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