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All Acting Regiment
19:52 / 06.09.05
Who flosses, who brushes, and what do you use?

Because usually on Barbelith, other people are on to a good thing. If it's that way in music or drugs I figured it might be that way in oral hygeine.
 
 
+#'s, - names
20:03 / 06.09.05
way into my sonic toothbrush.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
20:08 / 06.09.05
I used to have an electric one, but I take it a Sonic Toothbrush uses special waves to knock the plaque off, yeah?

And can you use it to open the Tardis bathroom cabinet with?
 
 
w1rebaby
20:56 / 06.09.05
Normal toothbrush plus mouthwash.

Seriously, you wouldn't believe the difference a bit of Listerine makes to the gums. I wouldn't have credited it either but I just can't deny the practical differences. My gums bleed like bastards normally, to the degree that my mouth sometimes fills with blood at inopportune moments, and a few days with the mouthwash stops that dead.
 
 
Bear
21:11 / 06.09.05
I'm back into mouthwash again, spit not swallow Partridge style. I just got a new toothbrush the other day actually the Oral B massager, it's the balls. It has these little plastic bits that run along your gums... very nice.

Sometimes though only the electric will do, normally after a smoke. Nothing feels better.
 
 
fuckbaked
05:57 / 08.09.05
it's sort of a fluke that my teeth are ok (at least, I hope they're ok. they were the last time I saw a dentist, and they don't hurt or bleed or anything, but it's been way too long since I last saw a dentist), as I don't take good care of them. I try to floss, really I do, but I hardly ever remember to. Currently I'm using a cheap electric toothbrush (shaped like a racecar) that stopped working a while ago. I tend to chew the hell out of my toothbrushes, due to the fact that I chew on everything, and I can't put a bit of plastic in my mouth without chewing on it.
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:00 / 08.09.05
What about experiences with wisdom teeth? Can we discuss that here, or should I start a new thread for that?

I´ll have mine removed next monday and would like to hear some info. For example, the time after the operation: what do you eat, only baby food or can I eat normal food? Did you have to take any drugs? Was there any pain?

I have no pain yet, I just had a weird feeling in the back of my mouth, and the dentist then confirmed that two wisdom teeth are there.
 
 
Loomis
09:15 / 08.09.05
I brush every morning and occasionally before bed if I'm feeling virtuous. Never floss. I haven't had any major problems with my teeth although I've needed to use sensitive toothpaste for the last couple of years so perhaps decline is setting in. The last time I saw a dentist (almost 3 years ago) he said it was due to brushing too vigorously and causing the gums to recede a bit. Perhaps the first time I've ever been accused of doing anything too vigorously. He also could've been xoc's twin which was rather odd. I've been trying to make an appointment for a checkup lately but no dentists are taking NHS patients.

I had all four wisdom teeth taken out under general anaesthetic when I was about 18. Mouth was sore for a few days but plenty of paracetemol and it was ok. I don't remember what I ate. Lots of soup probably. A lot of the pain isn't just where the teeth were but the aches you get from where the dentist leans on your head and chest to get leverage to yank the bastards out.
 
 
Mistoffelees
09:34 / 08.09.05
A lot of the pain isn't just where the teeth were but the aches you get from where the dentist leans on your head and chest to get leverage to yank the bastards out.

No no no, I´ll have nothing of that! He can get his leverage elsewhere, for all the money he gets from me. And there´ll be no yanking; the way these teeths are lying in my gums. A friend told me, the dentist first shattered her wisdom teeth in small bits and then removed the mess.
 
 
Ariadne
09:55 / 08.09.05
I had my wisdom teeth out - all four of them plus another stray tooth - under general anaesthetic. I woke up and astounded my family by scoffing a huge round of sandwiches and some soup. I have a hearty appetite, me.
But it's just as well I did, because my mouth then seized up and I spent the next four days unable to open it wider than a straw's width, so I was constantly hungry - I'm sure those initial sandwiches were the only thing that saw me through.

And yeah, huge bruise between my breasts where the dentist had obviously been jumping up and down trying to get leverage on my teeth. Arnica tablets are supposed to be good for cutting down the bruising on your face - and chest.

On the main question - I use an electric toothbrush twice a day, sometimes more if I'm going out in the evening and have eaten one of Loomis's garlic-frenzy dinners. I buy dental floss every now and then but never actually get round to using it.
 
 
Mistoffelees
10:21 / 08.09.05
I won´t have general anaesthetic, so I´ll be able to shove the dentist away, if he tries to give me elbow bruises. My dentist sent me especially to this guy, because he has a chair, that is especially designed for these operations. I´m almost looking forward to it.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
10:45 / 08.09.05
 
 
Mistoffelees
11:15 / 08.09.05
 
 
doozy floop
11:45 / 08.09.05
No general anaesthetic, and your wisdom teeth haven't even come through yet?? (Or have they? Am I just confused?)

Good lord.

I had mine out when I was a young squib (twelve years of age, I believe) under general anasthetic. I had some stitches over the bits of gum that they sliced open, and massive holes where the teeth had been. Wasn't too bad after the initial soreness wore off, and I even got extra time off school after developing an infection that made my cheeks swell up like a greedy hamster's.

It was a bit foul coming round with a crusty bloodstained sort of tea towel thing in my mouth, though.
 
 
sad robot
11:59 / 08.09.05
i kind of came to half way through the ordeal. my orthodontist was mid pull with his forearm across my chest. seeing that my eyes were opened he said "jeeze, you got roots as big as cadilacs here." i remember feeling very disconcerted before i passed out again.

the grossest bit is just cleaning out the gunk that collects in the holes each night.

also - why does no one floss here? i worked in a dental hospital once and one of the dentists spazed when she heard i didn't floss. she brought in all kinds of pamphletes and pictures. scared me into doing it regularly. well, into feeling guilty anyways.
 
 
Ariadne
12:15 / 08.09.05
I know I should floss - hence the little floss box sitting in front of the bathroom mirror. But I'm just always too tired/ too rushed to be bothered. It seems so medieval, too, pulling goo from between your teeth with wee bits of string. If they can invent a higher tech version I might be more inclined to do it.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:35 / 08.09.05
I do it now, but that's only after having one of my back teeth crack in half this time last year while I was eating some crisps. Always brushed properly and regularly, even if I hadn't been to the dentist for ten years or something daft, but it still happened. Some people's teeth just go wonky quicker than some others', I suppose - flossing wouldn't have prevented it, but it's made me paranoid enough about them to want to make sure I'm doing everything I can to prevent anything similar happening in future.

Flossing was never taught as a fundamental part of dental hygiene over here when we were kids, was it? All I remember is constantly being told which way to brush.
 
 
Ariadne
12:52 / 08.09.05
That's true - I first heard of flossing when I was an adult. I remember classes in brushing, with the red tablets that showed up where you hadn't brushed right. And of course I remember it gathering most in the edges, where flossing would be just the thing!
Do children get taught to floss now?
 
 
Mistoffelees
13:13 / 08.09.05
No general anaesthetic, and your wisdom teeth haven't even come through yet?? (Or have they? Am I just confused?)

Yes, haven´t come through yet, and I´ll be conscious during the operation. Is that bad? Sometimes ignorance is bliss, I guess.

Flossing was never taught as a fundamental part of dental hygiene over here when we were kids, was it? All I remember is constantly being told which way to brush.

No dentist ever told me to floss. And it´s not part of dental hygiene education here. The first time, I learned about flossing was from a Robert Crumb comic.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
13:25 / 08.09.05
Ah, teeth. Yes. Well, I just went and made an initial appointment this morning at the dentist recommended by Stoatie. In principle I guess a checkup would always have been fine, but I've only been to see a dentist twice in the last four years or so, and that was for emergency surgery on two impacted wisdom teeth (technically one wisdom tooth, and another being pushed slowly by a wisdom tooth)and then a follow up some months later.

The advantage of going to Whitechapel Hospital is that it is free. The disadvantage is that it's a teaching hospital. This is not because of the students - the ones I had were in their final year, so were actually quite well trained. No, the problem came when the first one needed the help of the lecturer, who was not kind and gentle, but yanked away and drilled like a demon at those poor old molars, and did the tugging my head around with scarcely a care for my discomfort.

I found the experience oddly intriguing, especially as it seemed to take about 3-4 injections of novocaine (or similar) each time to get my mouth properly numb. Novocaine is a fun drug, as you get to watch a tube stuck in your mouth flow with your own blood and chunks of teeth (apart from the fragments flying out of your mouth) in an entirely pain-free way.

The first time I got stitched up after the two bottom teeth came out, and a cap put on the molar which the right-hand wisdom tooth had broken on its quest to tunnel its way diagonally towards the front of my mouth. Unfortunately that cap soon came off, so I had to go back, but the molar is now an evil little stump awaiting removal. Hence the booking of a visit to this new dentist next week...

I am not looking forward to being told off for the state of my teeth, but its something I really, really need to do. So much for the consequences of not seeing a dentist much for, ooh, fifteen-twenty years (apart from once when I was a student), as well as teenage years drinking ice cream and coca cola floats pretty much every weekend, between daily doses of chocolate.

One of the reasons I didn't go for so long was expense, as well as a degree of nervousness. The expense thing is partly a point of principle - I really still don't see why dental treatment is not free to everyone while other medical care is available under the NHS. However, when I was unemployed and entitled to free dental treament, I still didn't go, so the element of nervousness is still there. It's probably mostly to do with not liking any kind of medical treatment in the first place though.

As for current dental hygeine. Um. Not too good. I have been brushing twice daily now for a while, having only done so in the morning for a good few years. Brushing before going to bed has actually made me feel much cleaner and refreshed for the morning, especially after an evening at the pub or if I happen to have smoked something. Since I gave up smoking cigarettes, and only now smoke other things infrequently, I have found my mouth feels much fresher for the main part, but it's the state my teeth have fallen into which is now such a problem.

I tried using mouthwash for a while, but they all seem to come laced with aspartame, as do most toothpastes. I've managed to find a good sweetener-free toothpaste, but not mouthwash as yet.

Flossing is something I have no experience of - it always seems a little strange to me.
 
 
Mistoffelees
13:34 / 08.09.05
I still didn't go, so the element of nervousness is still there. It's probably mostly to do with not liking any kind of medical treatment in the first place though.

I believe it´s lying helpless in that chair and being at the mercy of this man with all his hissing metal tools. I have that feeling (not as bad) at he barber´s too: big scissors snipping around my head and razor blades at my neck and my throat.
 
 
sad robot
13:45 / 08.09.05
being lectured by a dentist about not flossing is about the only time i get that sinking feeling in the pit of my stomache that i used to get when i was sent to the principals office.

not to be the bothersome aunt of this thread or anything, but flossing is key, it's not just the food it gets out, it strengthens your gums in a way even electric toothbrushes don't. most problems with your mouth later in life actually stem from weak gums, not from cavities. is no one else terrified of all of their teeth spontaneously falling out of their jelly like gums?
 
 
Billuccho!
13:58 / 08.09.05
Wisdom teeth---

I´ll have mine removed next monday and would like to hear some info. For example, the time after the operation: what do you eat, only baby food or can I eat normal food? Did you have to take any drugs? Was there any pain?

For a few days, my diet was entirely pudding and applesauce and Jell-O and all sorts of stuff like that. After a few days I was able to at least bite, if not chew, and managed to eat an entire rack of ribs in under two hours. Good times.

However, if you're not getting any anesthetic, you're bloody mad. I had an IV *and* happy gas and it was quite pleasant. Later that day the pain set in like a mother, but I had Vicodin for that! And the Vicodin made me get all woozy and pass out, sure, but... And the bleeding should clear up in a day or so. But apparently I heal fast, so I dunno. Having red hair, I'm apparently better suited to handle pain, even though I've got no pain threshold whatsoever.

Nick some rubber gloves while you're there, fill 'em with water, and freeze 'em; hand-shaped ice packs. Keep 'em on till they melt, then replace. Helps a lot.

I just had this done in June, so...
 
 
Mistoffelees
14:40 / 08.09.05
However, if you're not getting any anesthetic, you're bloody mad. I had an IV *and* happy gas and it was quite pleasant. Later that day the pain set in like a mother, but I had Vicodin for that!

Of course I´ll have anaesthetics, but it´ll be local, so I don´t feel the removal. And I´ll ask that dentist for some quality drugs for the days after the operation. I don´t like pain and I won´t pass the chance for a legal high.
 
 
doozy floop
15:09 / 08.09.05
Yes, haven´t come through yet, and I´ll be conscious during the operation.

You're very brave. But then, I'm a very squeamish coward, so it's probably not all that bad.

I still don't really understand flossing. I have a go occasionally, but the string just gets stuck between my teeth and I have a horrible panic about having to go to the dentist (and I have a big fear of him) so that he can somehow remove this string dangling from my mouth, most probably by knocking out all of my teeth. And then the string comes loose and all is well again, but the experience has shaken me enough to make me avoid flossing for another month or something.

Am I doing it all wrong?
 
 
sad robot
16:27 / 08.09.05
maybe we could organize to have a dental hygenist stop by at the next barbelith get together and teach us all how to do it properly.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
17:19 / 08.09.05
I believe it´s lying helpless in that chair and being at the mercy of this man with all his hissing metal tools. I have that feeling (not as bad) at he barber´s too: big scissors snipping around my head and razor blades at my neck and my throat.

Yep, that has quite a bit to do with it, and the sterile surroundings, I think - though the Whitechapel Hospital dental school is an old Victorian space just filled with chairs and people with their mouths open expecting or experiencing their time under the drill.

Given that Lilly Nowhere is a hair stylist, I have overcome my aversion to getting my barnet chopped up (I had dreads down to my backside for 10 years which were never washed and trimmed precisely once in that decade). It took me a while to go to her salon, and even now Lilly is wary of cutting my hair, though I actually quite enjoy the sensation, sort of. I still find it odd having to sit still while someone does something to my head though. Then again, I find it quite odd having short hair for the first time since about age 6.

(Apologies for any threadrot - do we have a "hair" topic in Conversation yet?)
 
 
bitchiekittie
19:14 / 08.09.05
a tad bit obsessed with my choppers - which is good, since I have such a toothy smile.

I brush (only twice daily, though I occasionally attempt to brush post-lunch as well) with a regular toothbrush and floss once daily. luck, genetics and a penchant for sweets makes me prone to cavities, so I also use a fluoride rinse. my daughter and I go to the dentist every six months as instructed, and we both look forward to our visits and the clean, pretty smile that results from them.

next month I get gum surgery. the tendon that is attached to the underneath of everyone's tongue and then moored to the bottom of their mouths happens to stand a bit abnormally close to my teeth, which results in some pulling. it's taken a long time for my gums to recede so drastically but it's time to replace my gums before my teeth are in danger of falling out!

I found out from my surgeon that I grind my teeth quite badly at night - a fascinating fact of which I was previously unaware! recently harassing of current and exboyfriends has confirmed this. I'm supposed to use a plasic mouthguard at night, a clear, thin, custom made cover; I slobbered in it for about a week before I quit. I was also told recently that my salivary glands are underactive. who knew!
 
 
bitchiekittie
19:15 / 08.09.05
...did I mention that I'm a bit obsessed? I'm so jazzed!
 
 
Loomis
19:27 / 08.09.05
Does anyone here know The Toothbrush Family? It was a short cartoon show that I vaguely remember from my childhood. A quick googling helped me remember the song (to the tune of 3 Blind Mice):

Brush your teeth
Round and round
Circles small
Gums and all
A small soft toothbrush the round and round way
Will keep your gums healthy and stop tooth decay
So clean very carefully three times a day
Go round and round
Round and round


I still sometimes get this in my head when brushing my teeth. Are you really meant to brush your gums though? I was never sure about that.
 
  
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