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Luke Haines Hates You

 
  

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M.a.P
16:49 / 14.06.07
Well what i meant is:
I never really got where LH was standing, you know, at first he seemed like a pretty ambitious lad didn't he?
But then he just kept frightening the mainstream audience with unsolved child murders and funky terrorists...After Murder Park is amazing but i felt as if it was an expression of his disapointment with not making it through the mainstream...And then you have all the elements for a good ol' artiste maudit syndrome...

(If my english's too crappy or if i'm not funny enough, i might resort to smileys and txtspk.Or just the usual lurking.Don't wanna be a pain!)
 
 
Spaniel
16:54 / 14.06.07
Your English is really good by the looks of things.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
18:10 / 14.06.07
Didn't our beloved Luke Haines try a little too hard to reach for the acknowledged cult status?

I'm not sure if things were planned out to that extent (from what I remember, getting inro the charts was Black Box Recorder's raison d'etre, pretty much, or so they used to say interviews) but equally, I think it could be argued that Luke Haines was his own worst enemy for a lot of the Nineties. Stunts like allegedly breaking his ankles to avoid going on tour with The The were, while perhaps understandable, never going to make much sense to the wider record-buying public in the Britpop years. And then there was his habit of presenting himself as a much older man than he actually was, at a time the likes of Jarvis Cocker, Noel Gallagher and Bobby Gillespie, while never actually lying about their ages, seemed happy enough to play the Pop game, at least to the extent of not dressing up like curmudgeonly old buggers from the days of the Empire. But then again, a lot of this was probably driven by a genuine sense of rage on Haines' part - his image was basically a disaster, one that's really only starting to suit him now, in his late thirties, but could he have done any different? I'm prepared to believe that Nineties might have felt, at times, like this sort of malign entity that was out to get him personally, as thing after thing that he basically hated (Britart, Oasis, Tony Blair, etc) came to prominence, while his own star fell - for someone in a band that was initially lumped in with Suede and Pulp, that must have been a bit galling.

Though I don't suppose anyone should feel too sorry for him; he made a lot of great records, after all (which I think sold reasonably well - as far as I know he was never exactly starving in a garret) and he seems to be quite enjoying his status as a kind of literate, alt-rock Alf Garnett these days, performing residencies at the Edinburgh festival and so on, maybe planning an Auteurs comeback for when the time seems right, although he should possibly give this another few years.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
01:32 / 07.06.08
I've recently got back into 'Off My Rocker At The Art School Bop', which is to say, I'd lost my copy, and now I've found it, and I think Luke deserves the opportunity of turning down a minor British honorific for 'Leeds United' alone.
 
 
M.a.P
15:54 / 12.06.08
Hey the Luke Haines thread is back!
I didn't know about this but it will most certainly be good fun...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
14:52 / 14.01.09
Nearly finished it, and yes, it is.

I'm not entirely sure how much of it I believe (did Luke Haines really call Chris Evans 'a c***' to his face, or did he perhaps just mutter it under his breath, while Chris wasn't looking? And was he really sure he was going to be kidnapped, and then indoctrinated, by a Japanese death cult that time? There's a lot of this sort of thing ...) but if even half of it's true, tunes like 'Get Wrecked At Home' or 'Satan Wants Me', which I'd always taken as satirical, actually aren't, as it turns out.

Slight caveat: at £12.99 retail for under 250 pages of average size paperback, it's insanely over-priced - you can imagine the conversation at Random House;

'Luke, this seems a bit much?'

'Yes, but I may as well milk what few fans I have left dry' - so probably best to order off Amazon.

But it is worth it. I read more rock/celeb memoirs than I should, and 'Bad Vibes' is up there with 'The Stones' by Philip Norman as an amusing, well-written, demolition job on the subject in question. With the one crucial difference.

Heroically, I think, Luke Haines' worst enemy would be hard-pressed to write a more negative account of the life and the work than Luke does here, all by himself.

One senses a rigorous editing process, whereby pretty much anything that made the author sound even remotely sympathetic was left out as a matter of principle.

Nice line in prose too, and, when not a bit harrowing ('how could you do this to yourself, Luke?' you find yourself wondering, in particular during his account of his early years in The Auteurs) very amusing.
 
  

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