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Forget Sigils For 1 God Damned Min.

 
 
Tamayyurt
14:01 / 06.12.01
And the same goes for servitors...

These have worked so well for me that I haven't really been using any other tools. I've gotten lazy. And in some other thread someone posted something like, "If they work so great why use anything else?" Well, I haven't and it's gotten boring.

So what other tools are out there for us strapping chaos types? What about all the stuff Morrison hinted would be in the 3rd Pop Magic that never came? I need something new!
 
 
cusm
14:52 / 06.12.01
Maybe you just need something old. The point of Chaos is to be able to use any tools available to you, not just to overuse one tool that made sense. I mean, sigels are only one little narrow way to do magic. Look at an old tradition, or several. Find what process or procedure is consistent, and adopt it to your practice in a way you like. That's chaos magic, not wanking.
 
 
cusm
15:25 / 06.12.01
Blast, now you got me started

Here's a course in chaos magic for you:

Join a coven.
Get a reiki attunement.
Apprentice yourself to a Magickian.
Go to a sweat lodge.
Be 'born again'.
Slave yourself to a psychic vampire.
Get your head read by a Baba.
Go on a vision quest.
Go to a 'sacred sex' workshop.
Craft a set of rune stones.
Keep an oath of comittment to a God.
Draw a tarot deck.
Get Baptised.
Sell everything and join a monestary.
Follow a guru.
Recite the 10 pilars of Islam.
Join a cult.
Take a Tai Chi class.
Bloody do something.

Chaos teaches us to deprogram, to reach a detached state of objectivity where we can use the traditions and beliefs as we please, or make our own. The point isn't to stay in this state, even Nirvhana is just a way station on the way to somewhere else. That's philosophy, not magick. The point is to be able to practice something, and then be able to stop and do something else later if you please. You are a constantly changing system. What works today, might not work for you tomorrow. Accept this, and be not afraid to turn your back on what you were in order to become something else. That includes stopping being a chaos magician so you can be a traditionalist for awhile, and then go back to chaos again later and see what you've learned. You have to actually practice the tradition if you want to learn from it.

If you don't like any of the current traditions, make up your own. Declare your own gods, or even your own divinity, and do what magic makes sense to you. Take what you've learned from traditions, break them down into their component tools and results, take that and use it your own way.

There's nothing in chaos itself. Chaos is a way to look at the stuff already out there, to find new things in it or make up your own. Pay attention to what you do, not how you do it, and you'll find the basic tools of magick (of which sigelization is just one) and how they are used.

Its a modern world, and a modern view of magic. The magic tiself, however is the same as it ever was. We are just able to see it a little more clearly now. Yay progress.

</rant>
 
 
grant
15:32 / 06.12.01
Hey, impulsive - you're in Miami, right?

Check out www.huangtaichi.com. It's not as user friendly as it could be, but that's my tai chi teacher's site. We meet on Monday nights 9when he's in town) at All Wars Memorial Park off 163rd and 15th (behind the NMB library). Right now might not be the best time for a beginner to pick it up, but I think he tends to start fresh at the beginning of the year....
 
 
Tamayyurt
16:20 / 06.12.01
Damn, cusm...you basically voiced what was messing with my brain! Thanks, glad I got you started Wanna be my Master? (I sound like Nox...or um, Niz)

Right now, I'm taking a Buddhism course (it's mostly history) for school and I've registered for Philosophy of Buddhism and Kaballa and Aikido for next semester.

Grant, that tai chi sounds cool and I get my comics on 163rd anyway so it's all good can you tell me when it's a good time to jump in? You'll probably forget though so I'll keep checking.
 
 
cusm
17:01 / 06.12.01
quote:Originally posted by impulsivelad:
Wanna be my Master?


Ha! Little did you know I am actually a high ranking priest of EroSirrus, master of the Doggiema-Style! My kung-fu is mighty, and the linage of my temple draws back to the time of the ancient Egyptians. There is much I can teach you, young one, oh yes. Prepare for your initiation... *zip*
 
 
grant
17:08 / 06.12.01
You shop at the place with the "Welcome to Tropic Comics!" mannequin? That shit always freaks me out every time I step in there.

I'll try to remember to post up next time sifu says he's looking for beginners. It seems to happen once a year or so.

He also teaches a bagua class that goes down at 6:30 - too early for me to truck down there every week. Tai chi's at 7:45/8:00-ish. If you wanna come by and watch sometime, it's a public park and kind of cool (in a sloooow sort of way). Just don't try to ask questions in the middle of class. He gets cranky about that.
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
20:34 / 06.12.01
quote:Originally posted by cusm:
Blast, now you got me started

Here's a course in chaos magic for you:



Excellent suggestions cusm.

Do it impulsivelad.

Be impulsive.
 
 
the Fool
22:26 / 06.12.01
quote:Originally posted by grant:

He also teaches a bagua class that goes down at 6:30 - too early for me to truck down there every week. Tai chi's at 7:45/8:00-ish. If you wanna come by and watch sometime, it's a public park and kind of cool (in a sloooow sort of way).


If you can get there for bagua I highly recommend it. Internal power training. Cultivates chi/internal energy. Great for twisting and strengthing your spine! Spiral AnimalForm dancing!!!
 
 
Ria
22:40 / 06.12.01
disagree about CM only looks in a new way at what already exists but a different discussion which I don't feel up for.

[ 07-12-2001: Message edited by: Ria ]
 
  
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