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Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
21:17 / 21.08.05
I just read a blog post about The Intimates being done with issue #12, and the writer talked about there is a trend today that "good series are always cancelled early." I don't really agree with that, but there has been a change in comic series sales. If a book doesn't start with a HUGE bang, it's basically doomed, as it is pretty rare that a comic goes up in sales after the first few issues.

This means that a lot of series don't make it past their first year. I can think of a few that didn't make it very long that I wish could have been able to get enough people buying them to last longer...

Aztek is a short lived series that has been discussed here before.

Thriller was an early 80's book that I LOVED, but it fell apart pretty quickly. First the writer left, then the artist, and while the series was continued for another few issues by Bill DuBay (from Warren Magazines) and Alex Nino, it was pretty clear they had no clue about what the series was supposed to be about.

Alan Moore's Youngblood actually was a really good comic...and even with all of the buildup, only one or two issues came out. I would love to know what he had planned for it.

The first Night Force was from Wolfman and Colon right after their run on Tomb of Dracula which was one of the highlights of the 70's. They had a great idea for a series that was just starting to fall into place when it was cancelled, and ther revial just wasn't quite as good.

So, what ones do other people think were cancelled too soon?
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
21:37 / 21.08.05
Thriller- fucking hell, I'd forgotten that one. I'd love a re-read of those.

I'll add Scarab to the list- John Smith's horror/superhero hybrid. Fortunately, I seem to remember it was designed to be eight issues "which would continue into more if there was the interest" or somesuch malarkey, so it didn't end TOO up in the air... from a beautifully enthralling first issue with an ENORMOUS idea-per-page count, to that wicked story about the female-ruled village (which was, imho, up there with the best of Hellblazer or Shade: The Changing Man) it was a thing of wonder. I guess it was nice that it never became the bloated, past-it rock star that was Sandman's later issues, but it would have been nicer still had it been given the opportunity and not succumbed to it... it definitely had a couple of years in it, I reckon.
 
 
imaginary friend on the phone
21:48 / 21.08.05
Green Lantern Mosaic

Aliens in K.K.K. hoods hunting down humans. A comlicated take on John Stewart, and the semi-truck death of Ch'P. Gerard Jones's only real chance to go hog wild before he left comics and reveal himself as an author with ideas just as trippy as anything by George M.

Sojourn

Never really much more than an excuse for Greg Land to draw pretty pictures. But still, very pretty pictures they were, and its a shame the series ended in mid story thanks to the collapse of Crossgen.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
21:53 / 21.08.05
Green Lantern Mosaic

I'd forgotten than series...it was such a blast to read, and was so strange, I knew it was doomed. Gerard Jones was a writer I coudl never figure out. When he was "on", he was just a blast to read, filled with humor and ideas bursting out all over the page, and when he wasn't, it was like reading a series made up on fill-in issues.
 
 
rabideyemovement
22:19 / 21.08.05
Stormwatch Team Achilles and Wildcats 3.0

Wright had planned for some good stories revolving around Halibusker Oil plundering the middle east. And Joe Casey had more story about the troubles of HALO giving the world free energy. It would have been great to see both of these series played out to the end. Wildstorm claimed they had other plans for the characters and that these titles didn't sell well. I have wondered if the contraversal plots had anything to do with the cancellations.
 
 
sleazenation
22:25 / 21.08.05
poor sales are more likely - Wildstorm do not have unlimited coffiers - Sleeper was lucky to last as long as it did...
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
22:26 / 21.08.05
Speaking of good old Gerard...

Freex ran for too short a time before devolving into costumed weirdness. A comic book about homeless superhumans who pretty much ahted everyone and were hated back in return...heh. Yeah, that was fun stuff.
 
 
Juan_Arteaga
00:38 / 22.08.05
Not all good series get canceled early. I think it is a lot more complicated than that.

Anyhoo...

I second Alan Moore's Youngblood. It looked like it was going to be to Teen Titans, what Supreme was to Superman. In other words, the best run either book never had.

I also loved Joe Casey's Automatic Kafka with a semi-sexual passion. I even think it might have made more sense if allowed to continue properly.

Peter Milligan's Kid Amazo might have been good, if allowed to exist in the first place.
 
 
Billuccho!
02:22 / 22.08.05
Simonson's Orion and Milligan's Human Target should've gone on longer. Would've been nice. But I suppose they had decent runs.

The ol' Strazewski/Parobeck JSA was good stuff, too.
 
 
Lord Morgue
03:31 / 22.08.05
Thriller! "Only fleshwounds! Only outpatients!"

Anything Australian- I don't think we've ever finished a limited series, rarely enough a story arc... Pulse of Darkness, Forerunners, Squeakies, Dark Nebula, Bug and Stump, Greener Pastures, Zero Assassin, Phantastique, Southern Squadron, The Protectorate, Eureka, White Dog...
Basically every damn thing we've ever done, EVER.
At least Platinum Grit is still going as a web comic.
 
 
Benny the Ball
05:05 / 22.08.05
PUNX - by keith giffen, made it to three issues I think. Was another very self aware decontructive comic book series of characters breaking fourth walls and all that jazz - but it was great for the the first two issues, and I haven't been able to find the third issue, and that was it.

I also loved WildCATS 3.0, and Atomic Kafka was great fun - I guess I like Joe Casey...
 
 
Evil Scientist
10:19 / 22.08.05
Stormwatch: Team Achilles will be sorely missed by me. Plus, I missed everything that happened from the end of the second collected set to the end of the Citizen Soldier storyline.

I heard they were planning to slowly replace the entire team with superhumans until poor old Santiago was the only norm left.

Did they ever explain what happened during the first Project Re-entry mission and why that universe was full of dead people?
 
 
Krug
11:40 / 22.08.05
Milligan's Human Target ended with a mindfuck and even though Vertigo gave it a fair chance but nobody bought it.
 
 
Essential Dazzler
11:52 / 22.08.05
Ann Nocenti's Kid Eternity

Still missing #14 so I haven't read to the end of it, but what I've read so far has been excellent. Drugs, Nikola Tesla, Asylums. all drawn by the mighty Sean Phillips.

I've managed to rack up multiples of a lot of issues if anyone's interested.

And yes, I do think it's better than Morrison's one
 
 
Mario
13:00 / 22.08.05
I always thought CHASE & CHRONOS had legs. Same with MONARCHY, although that book had better ideas than execution.
 
 
sleazenation
13:02 / 22.08.05
Milligan's Human Target ended with a mindfuck and even though Vertigo gave it a fair chance but nobody bought it.

I wouldn't say it ended with a mind fuck - it ended in the only satisfying way it could have done - as a mirror image of the opening mini...

And, yes - that not enough people bought Human Target is a sad indictment of the purchasing habits of many comic buyers.
 
 
sleazenation
13:04 / 22.08.05
I enjoyed The Establishment, mainly for it's subject matter - it could have been far better if it had been sturctured as a 12 issue mini from the start.

Jack Staff does many of the things that the Establishment did and does them better.
 
 
lukabeast
14:00 / 22.08.05
And, yes - that not enough people bought Human Target is a sad indictment of the purchasing habits of many comic buyers.

Also a sad indictment with regards to the marketing of any book not part of a company-wide crossover event.
 
 
lukabeast
14:02 / 22.08.05
The first Night Force was from Wolfman and Colon right after their run on Tomb of Dracula which was one of the highlights of the 70's. They had a great idea for a series that was just starting to fall into place when it was cancelled, and ther revial just wasn't quite as good.


Ooo the original Night Force was great, man that just brought back a lot of memories.
 
 
A beautiful tunnel of ghosts
14:05 / 22.08.05
Evil Scientist: not having the issues to hand, I can't give you exact details, but the concept behind Project Entry is that a psychopathic superhuman has killed everyone on the world through which the Team Achilles members must travel.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:25 / 22.08.05
Human Target, deffo - also The Minx, and arguably Shade, thhe Changing Man, although that disd at least havea pretty goood run. Peter Milligan is a misunderstood man, clearly.
 
 
Mistoffelees
15:00 / 22.08.05
Peter Milligan is a misunderstood man, clearly.

threadrot

That reminds me of my favourite vertigo mini series The Enigma. That story was awesome, I could never tell what would come next. Such imagination, all those ideas in just six issues, that other writers would have used for 6 dozen issues, if they would´ve been able to think of them in the first place.

Glad it was a mini-series to begin with. If it would have been cancelled, it would have annoyed me to no end.

/threadrot
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
15:14 / 22.08.05
Firearm

Predated Starman by a few years, I think, and although the art was not consistent it nevertheless held a few genuinely engrossing moments, due to the authorial voice outshining the faux-Images.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:20 / 22.08.05
Hear hear for Kid Eternity - great series while it lasted.
 
 
Hieronymus
20:00 / 22.08.05
Stoat, my already high respect for you has doubled. Scarab was a really fantastic mini series. Sicari madmen, Khepri bug amulets, Pan on a before-the-grave fertility bender, angelic torture gardens, Russians tapping the psychic scream from Hiroshima and the Cosmic Coincidence Control Center.

Goddamn... what could've been.
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:42 / 22.08.05
Speaking of Pete Milligan I still have a soft spot for The Minx
 
 
TroyJ15
01:30 / 23.08.05
CAPTAIN MARVEL(vol 2) by Peter David was really strong and a wild ride! Then it got cancelled and David rushed to wrap it up so the final issue was crap!
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
01:40 / 23.08.05
Captain Marvel was a weird one for me...I love PAD's work because I'm a tubby fanboy, but the series started in the middle of a storyline that lasted another 19 issues (with Cap insane), and then ended with him saying "I'm cured...or am I?"

The book deserved to be cancelled after that. Only because I couldn't go to PAD's house and smack him around until he gave me a proper ending to the story.

But I did like how he had his last issue go all Meta, like he was writing a Vertigo book in 1994 instead of a mainstream Marvel super-hero in 2003.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
10:26 / 23.08.05
I blame Firearm on introducing Rex Mundi. Who was one of the in-story causes of Freex becoming really messed up. Then again, Alec Swann was about the ONLY character in the Ultraverse without ultra powers. Hell, even Nightman, who was the setting's version of Batman, was a goddamned telepath with nightvision. Mind that he was still kind of neat (gotta love a guy who builds his costume out of shit he buys at the Army surplus store, the local hardware centre, the electronicsshop, and bribing a police friend for a kevlar vest).

The Ultraverse just had too many immortals, though in the end, who's only differing characteristic was how much money they had. They were all badass "I can beat up your entire team whenever its cinematically appropriate!" powerful. I mean, the amount of damage the Old Man could do just running around with a fucking shotgun was unbelievable.
 
 
iamus
12:07 / 23.08.05
Halo Jones.

I can remember reading it in back issues of 2000AD and being a bit gutted that it just stopped mid-way. It's been ages since I read it though and I've noticed the Trade recently so I might go buy that.
 
 
sleazenation
12:33 / 23.08.05
Big Numbers...
 
 
Bed Head
12:36 / 23.08.05
Uh, dude, *did* Halo Jones end half-way through? There’s three volumes of Halo goodness, and it kinda ended when it should, I thought. You sure you’re not thinking of Tao De Moto? Halo-lite that certainly did end mid-way through, although I can’t imagine anyone missing it...


So. What about the Helfer/Baker Shadow? Dudes, cancelled at just the wrong moment, too: it’s a crying shame we’ll never get to see the any of the adventures of Robo-Shadow in late-80s New York. I loved the crazy, franchise-bending mission Helfer and Baker seemed to be on, I loved that they were actually managing to do something unexpected with a character who must be one of the dullest sacred cows in comics. It all seemed kinda naughty. And the irony is that the book was supposedly cancelled because they were fucking around with/damaging the Shadow ‘property,’ but they had *totally* nailed the characters of the Shadow’s agents: the Annual in particular is so beautifully written, has such a perfectly pitched late-night, small hours, reflecting on mortality feel to it. In between all the goofy jokes, that is.

And I’ve never loved Kyle Baker’s art more. His Plastic Man stuff is so shiny and perfect. But his art on the Shadow looks like it’s been done with a biro and a stick of charcoal; you can see the hand drawing it. It’s totally fucking beautiful.


On Scarab: y’know, I’m sure I remember reading somewhere that Scarab’s cancellation was less to do with bad sales than with Karen Berger *really* not liking John Smith. I’d guess that’s only a scurrilous rumour, but I do quite like the version of events that has John Smith as too CREEPY! and WEIRD! to get any work from Vertigo...
 
 
iamus
12:46 / 23.08.05
I remember Tao De Moto, but it never really grabbed me.

I was under the impression that Halo Jones was originally intended as a seven-parter or something. I could be wrong though, It's been a long time.


Fuck it. I'm off into town the now to go and get it.
 
 
Bed Head
13:00 / 23.08.05
Oh, you’re probably right. See, I thought Halo Jones finished when she’d lost or let go of everyone she’d ever known and cared about. It may be sci-fi with spaceships and robot dogs, but the vibe's all a bit frizzly and Bobby McGee. I reckon.
 
 
alexsheers
14:33 / 24.08.05
Steve Bissette's 'Tyrant'.

I'd have loved to have seen that tyrannosaur reach maturity...
 
  

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