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The Sound of Now

 
 
Rollo Kim, on location
08:45 / 19.08.05
As someone who has become almost willfully out of touch with 'yoof culcha', and yet willfully still 'making' stuff, and having not entirely 'let myself go' upon turning 30, I'm wondering what Barbed thoughts would be on what's really happening in the here and now, musically speaking.

I always had a way of just doing my own thing regardless of trends [mainstream and alt.cult.] but liked to think that I still knew what was happening in the worlds of music and footwear and hair. Now I feel I'm out of touch, and who knows, there might be something new I'm missing out on and actually might not be totally jaded about.

{There's a brilliant line in The Armando Iannucci Show where he's talking with his elderly friend about 'the old days', along the lines of "we didn't have drumNbass in my day... we used to call it... jungle..."}

What's the real underground doing now? How important, how 'haven't quite been ripped off by the labels and the marketing companies' are grime, electro, neo-skiffle, electropunk, cake-music, new-garage-rock type stuff etc. What else is going on? Anything that doesn't owe it all to something that happened 10, 20, 30 years ago?

As a recent arrival to the sarhf of England I've been kind of surprised that people are still talking about electroclash and grime {two things I really liked the idea of, if not all of the end results}. And why do the pubs and live venues still seem to be full of Jam / Pearl Jam tribute acts?

New and improved, yet surprisingly the same, Rollo Kim.
 
 
Not Here Still
11:07 / 19.08.05
I believe Reggaeton was the soundtrack to the capital's hippest nitespots a few weeks ago, but I'm sure a country hick like me is behind the times.

In fact, seeing as the last CD I bought was a compilation of Welsh folk and political music released in the 60s and 70s, I know it.
 
 
Quantum
17:06 / 19.08.05
I just go to 'It Came From The Sea' and buy what they tell me to. After thirty you can't trust your own taste. ;]
 
 
Rollo Kim, on location
17:40 / 19.08.05
Not Me Again - you actually went into a 'shop'? And bought a 'CD'? That is so retro! Soon everyone will be doing it!

Maybe your 'taste-buds' get a bit fried after 30. But let's pretend it's that it's more to do with feeling mature and confident enough to do your own thing regardless.

I'll spare you the details but at the moment I'm going through one of those phases of listening to music that I never bought when it actually came out... but I was there...

I would love to check out It Came from the Sea but it always seems to get 'sprung' at the last minute and I need more time to consider my wardrobe, and my wallet.
 
 
autopilot disengaged
22:00 / 24.08.05
as someone whose job is to at least *attempt* to root out The New (for It Came from the Sea and Plan B Mag...)

in terms of grime, things are still exciting 'cause the whole scene's so amorphous. there's enough history to react against, but not to encumber - it's incredibly fun to see producers trying to outdo one another in terms of audacity - similar to how the neptunes and timbaland fought a cold war thru hott traxxx a couple years ago. plus, i think those of us who like hip-hop are just so grateful to have a homegrown vocal variant that doesn't suck with every fibre of its being.

i wrote an article on reggaeton a few months ago - it's true there's some amazing stuff out there, but also a lot of derivative dross - i do wonder if it isn't funamentally just dancehall (which i know little about) with added BPM and some latin flourishes. whatever, i'm hopeful it's current fashionability will at least leave a legacy of speeding up beats.

love him or loathe him, lil jon has to be the top hip-hop producer at the mo - refusing to rest after crunk hit, he's pioneered crunk'n'b and gotten into reggaeton early besides. he's certainly proven to be a hell of a lot more versatile than most wd initially give him credit for.

as for electroclash... see it more as an attitude than a bunch of musical signifiers. i always favoured the idea that what the artists had in common was a DIY attitude to making dance music, an anti-anonymous self-expression kick, and a healthy sense of irony... punk disco may be a gross oversimplification, but something about the tension within that phrase does a good job of suggesting why it will continue to bear strange fruit.

rock-wise, i'm less clear... certainly here in brighton, peeps are either favouring post-rock semi-proggy noise bands or short sharp art punk provocateurs, with (again, similar to electroclash) an emphasis on chutzpah and ideas above musicianship or structure.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
16:22 / 25.08.05
This is the hip, happening sound of Now... Oh, sorry, you meant now as in more or less at this monent, not Now the band. They're quite now as well as Now, sort of, in certain circles anyhow.
 
  
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