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Mirakel Dreamer
14:13 / 04.12.01
So, As I think, think, think... let us explore a few questions together, shall we?

1) What is lacking in your spiritual practice?

2) Do you ever feel like there is something missing (or that you are missing something) and you cannot quite put your finger on what it is?

3) Have you ever felt like you have been set back to square one in your practice?

I have always wondered about people of great enlightenment. Like the Dhali Lhama, people who just KNOW things about matters of the Spirit.
How did they get there? Where did they learn?? Do some people just "get it", while others have a huge struggle?

What's the deal here? Or, not even those greatly enlightened, just those who have a strong spiritual base and have that inner wisdom.

I have taken part in discussions about "building up energy" and meditating... Am I the odd one out because for me, its just -- well -- there?


I am not even positive that my questions are making a great amount of sense, but I think it would help me to have some insight to this from others.

Mirakel




[ 04-12-2001: Message edited by: Mirakel Dreamer ]
 
 
penitentvandal
14:42 / 04.12.01
1) Porn star sidekicks.

2) See answer to question one. I'm serious about this.

3) Yes, actually - the last two years - from around May 2000 on - have basically been a total relearning experience, on a profoundly arse-kicking level. However, after all that I actually do feel a lot better and more knowledgeable at what I do, and I'm a hell of a lot stronger than I was in my cocky, overconfident twentieth century self. So yes, I actually do recommend biting off more than you can chew to anyone...*cringe*
 
 
cusm
14:53 / 04.12.01

1) What is lacking in your spiritual practice?


Any easy way to explain my approach to it, even to myself.


2) Do you ever feel like there is something missing (or that you are missing something) and you cannot quite put your finger on what it is?


Yep. Truth, proof, verification, or evidence that what I am doing and believe in is at all right. The best most faiths can offer is an assumption of miracles, which themselves cannot be verified. I am forced to take what I believe in on faith, knowing that I believe in it only because I choose to do so.

I'm never really satisfied with anything, and don't know if I ever really will be. I don't know if I want to be, for that matter, as my dissatisfaction has continued to lead me to learn and grow in to an ever more evolved creature. I'm afraid sometimes if I actually were to find some real truth, there wouldn't be any more reason for me to be here. I'm with the gnostics that any real truth on the matter of spirituality and divinity cannot be known by the flawed creatures we are, so we must continually make do with the best we have. Something always seems not quite right.


3) Have you ever felt like you have been set back to square one in your practice?


Frequently. Daily, sometimes. My square one is simply that I am, and that I should make the best of that. Do some good, catch some bliss, and gather as much of the fire of the gods as I can hold. The rest, only improves the existance part.

A lot of "enlightenment" seems to come back to just that: just be happy, do what makes for the most happiness for everyone around you. Simple, right?

Sure, all things are simple, once you're there. Its getting there that's the twisty part.

I think the point is really to stay right there at the beginning. Step one is where you'll find yourself once you've walked the path to its end anyway. Though at least from the walking of it, you can get a good laugh at the end. Of course, I can't do that, so I don't know why I'd even suggest it.

I say, get as much life in as you can, while you can, help others to do the same, and bugger the rest.

Shut up and dance.
 
 
De Selby
14:56 / 04.12.01
1) I dunno.... as soon as I think I've got somewhere, I discover something new which makes me realise I was really only looking at a tiny tiny part of the picture. Like a fractal that keeps changing shape every time you increase the resolution.

2) constantly feeling that. thats what makes me keep wanting to find out more.

3) see previous answers.

I've gotten used to the idea that I'm never gonna find out everything. I'm still gonna keep trying though....

VelvetVandal : Now I know what I've really been missing though....
 
 
Mirakel Dreamer
15:27 / 04.12.01
Come to think of it,this is probably exactly what is making me feel this way. The more I learn the more I have left to discover, this is both frustrating AND exhilerating.

But then, I believe its the lack of the cut and dry nature of these beliefs that facinates me...

Mirakel- who is finding nothing more then more questions!


quote: Originally posted by Alex Gein:
[QB]1) I dunno.... as soon as I think I've got somewhere, I discover something new which makes me realise I was really only looking at a tiny tiny part of the picture. Like a fractal that keeps changing shape every time you increase the resolution.

2) constantly feeling that. thats what makes me keep wanting to find out more.
 
 
grant
17:56 / 04.12.01
Discipline, discipline, and constantly.
 
  
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