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Whatever 'in anger' means

 
 
Ariadne
14:31 / 12.08.05
Sorry to copy Smoothly's title but it was too tempting.

I need some input from Londoners here - or maybe just hipsters, or people who go out of the house more than I do.

Twice this week, during interviews, people have refered to a particular technology being used 'in anger'. The first time I let it pass, thinking I'd maybe misheard him. Because there was no way the people involved were angry - they were quite happy, in fact.

Then today, someone did it again. As he'd already laughed at himself for using a few 'management' terms, I thought I could safely ask. And he was taken aback - apparently it's quite normal to use the words 'in anger' to mean 'enthusiastically'. And he doesn't think it's just a geek term.

So - is this in widespread use, and I've just missed it? Is it a Southern thing? Or did I just strike on two odd chaps in one week?
 
 
sleazenation
14:35 / 12.08.05
I guess it's kind of a synonym for 'with purpose' - you often hear in sports reporting people talking about pre-match gossip and shenannigans 'before a ball has been stuck in anger'...

Not sure how much that helps...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
14:39 / 12.08.05
Is it the way Bowie and the Gallagher Brothers look when they turn their heads around?
 
 
Smoothly
14:39 / 12.08.05
I've always assumed that this had military etymology. Weapons used in anger (ie. combat, rather than in testing), that sort of thing. So meaning, used for real.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
14:43 / 12.08.05
I would suspect it comes from a militaristic usage - one reads of a new weapon (eg the atom bomb) being used "in anger" for the first time, for example. But I could be wrong entirely here. Google has not been much help yet...
 
 
lord henry strikes back
14:44 / 12.08.05
It's a term I've always been aware of, especially whilst living in the midlands. Sleazenations definition is pretty close to the one I've always understood it to have. No idea where it started, sorry.
 
 
Mon Oncle Ignatius
14:45 / 12.08.05
Jinx, Smoothly! Sorry, I was posting at the same time as you, not copycatting (is that a verb yet?)!
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
14:46 / 12.08.05
Originally from Timon of Athens, I think:

Who cannot condemn rashness in cold blood?
To kill, I grant, is sin's extremest gust;
But, in defence, by mercy, 'tis most just.
To be in anger is impiety;
But who is man that is not angry?


Sleaze's example references the phrase "a shot fired in anger" - which is to say, a shot fired with intent to kill, and generally in a state of war. Therefore it is an alternative way of dating wars - not from their declaration to the signing of the peace treaty, but from the first shot fired in anger to the last shot fired in anger.

Therefore, it has come to mean something like "for real" or "with intent". Your boss is almost certainly misusing it, Ariadne.
 
 
Ariadne
14:51 / 12.08.05
Well... they're not my bosses, it's two separate guys, in separate companies, talking about grid computing and how it's starting to be used.
I guess that must be it, that they're using it 'for real' instead of just theoretically.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
15:05 / 12.08.05
That's it - they're referencing back to the distinction between a shot fired in cold blood and one fired in anger - not sure who the first person was who used that particular phrase, however...
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
15:14 / 12.08.05
It is a merry jest among computer geeks - I know this from my father - used to mean I think software that is being used by a client for the purpose for which it was designed.

Anything to do with 'more in sorrow than in anger'?
 
 
captain piss
16:06 / 12.08.05
Aha - good to learn this. For years it's been one of those things I just filtered-out, assuming it to be a bizarre infelicity of the person I was talking to
 
 
Ariadne
16:43 / 12.08.05
It is a merry jest among computer geeks - I know this from my father
Ah! that's good to know.
 
  
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