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The Pussycat Dolls

 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
21:38 / 11.08.05
Has anybody heard the debut single from Pussycat Dolls, a burlesque outfit turned pop group with such a killer first single it actually belongs on page 1 of 'How to make a Hit'?

The tune has a perfect broad appeal to teenage girls, the gay clubbing community, lapdancers, R&B trendrooms and Ritzy nightclubs, pretty much definging the modern 'crossover'. It's fucking ace.

The troupe themselves look like 80's hookers with 21st century sass (gag!), but it really works. Almost certainly one-hit wonders, but I thoroughly recommend anyonw that way inclined to Limewire/Soulseek/Whatever the radio mix and also the ralphi Rosario Full Vocal club Mix for a slice of pure Space Ibiza old skool beauty...that cycle-of-5ths chord duality always gets me right where it counts.

C'mon in pop pickers.

(Bruno - fuck off!)
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
21:56 / 11.08.05
The delivery of the word 'Do' in the second line of the first verse is a production decision I laughed at when I first heard it, but which I now *love*.

Lateshifters, get outof the convo.
 
 
Char Aina
22:18 / 11.08.05
link to the damn thing, innit

i dont particularly like it, but then i kinda hate the vibe.
i reckon the sounds are forgettable and sound like a soundtrack rather than a single, and the subject matter annoys me.
i mean, sing what you wan sing, hey.
i just feel like its the girl equivalent of a some burly dude telling the ladies that they want his cock.
not my cup of swing.
i'm not sure i'm a fan of the whole expansion of the pussycat dolls brand thing either, but then i always thought they were kinda lame.

why do you like it?
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
22:32 / 11.08.05
Whay! toksy! OUT of teh convo!

I like that chord sequence, end of. It's a regular crop up in tunes that always get my goat, I dunno...'The Bot Is Mine', 'It's Not Right But It's OK', 'The Thong Song'...it's so simple and so precise...there's something about the maths of that change, and the melodies that naturally occupy it that just gets me...

I know what you mean, it's toilet...I mean, it's no great contribution to the body of great art or anything, but it has a 'filmic' quality, a certain imaginative touchstone that i respond to in all music that uses it...see the R Kelly thread, that cover of 'Behind Blue Eyes' that Limp Biskit had, and so many dub tunes and two chord wonders that achieve 'epic' or 'soundscape' qualities that I personally really love achieve (much Timbaland, Neptunes, Jerkins work in the smae genre, for example...never used to be this way either, i find the R&B nu skool have pinched a great deal from UK house and offshoot scenes rather than the jazz and blues complecity that was a previous occupationand that prevented UK D&B from achieving the sort of dominance that these styles now enjoy, IMO)
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
22:38 / 11.08.05
And, toksy...whether you personally like it or not, I guarantee it is already a lap dance classic and a certain club favourite..in my book, even if I don't get it, that makes it an interesting record/song.

Imagine a Radiohead *ironic* cover.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
22:41 / 11.08.05
Two posts back..

'The Bot is Mine' obviously sung by Optimus Prime vs. Soundwave.

(The other version was derivative.)
 
 
Char Aina
22:50 / 11.08.05
i dont know about lapdancing clubs being that good a litmus for interesting...
i mean, they play a whole buncha cack, from my experience of said venues.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
22:56 / 11.08.05
Well, a lapdancing club is a venue designed to part a punter from his ( and, rarely, her) money...so, to me, a tune which perfectly facilitates this process, is at least interesting, if not faascinating, fromits relationship to the book called 'How to write a hit'.

Which was, in a roundabout way, sort of what I was saying.

And, I really like it.
 
 
Char Aina
23:23 / 11.08.05
y'know, i dont think it was the music making folks pay £4.50 a beer...
 
 
Jackie Susann
00:00 / 12.08.05
I really like that Busta effectively sets himself up as the poor dude who wishes his girlfriend was hot like her. Poor Busta!

Anyway, it is nothing like some dude bragging about the ladies wanting to fuck him, the song has a kinda narrative about the dynamic between the guy, his girlfriend and the singer and - don't laugh - a vulnerable quality. Who hasn't felt like, 'Why is s/he with that fuckhead when I am so hot and available?'

Plus, the hook is so fierce!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:08 / 12.08.05
This is quite interesting background reading. I'll reproduce the whole thing below as the NY Times requires registration.

Don't Cha Blink
By PHILIP SHERBURNE
Published: July 24, 2005

Before the rise of the singer-songwriter, songs were properties to be test-marketed in search of the ideal hit-making synergy. (See "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" by Gladys Knight and the Pips and "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" by Marvin Gaye.) The producers who dominate hip-hop and modern R&B have brought that model back, and the short history of "Don't Cha" - first recorded by the Atlanta singer Tori Alamaze, now a hit for the Pussycat Dolls - is a good case study. It also demonstrates how, in the Internet era, original versions that might have been forgotten can now leave ghostly echoes.

JANUARY 2004: In a basement studio in Atlanta, Cee-Lo Green produces his composition "Don't Cha" with Ms. Alamaze, a former hair stylist and backup singer for OutKast. With a reprise of the hook from Sir Mix-a-Lot's 1988 song "Swass," it has the chorus, "Don't cha wish your girl was hot like me/ Don't cha wish your girl was a freak like me."

JULY 2004: Interscope Records signs the Pussycat Dolls, a sextet spun off from a burlesque group best known for its sometime member Carmen Electra.

AUGUST 2004: Felli Fell, a Los Angeles producer and D.J., hears Ms. Alamaze's demo while recording in Atlanta. He begins playing the song on Power106 in Los Angeles.

NOVEMBER 2004: Ms. Alamaze signs with Universal Records, like Interscope a part of the Universal Music Group.

JANUARY: Unhappy with Universal, Ms. Alamaze says, she agrees to release her rights to the song to get out of her contract. "I feel like I got caught up in the middle of egos and favors," she says. She completes an album with Cee-Lo and shops it to other labels. The San Francisco producers Justin Martin and Sammy D. make a house-music remix of "Don't Cha" for their D.J. sets, but don't press it on vinyl, believing the song is too obscure. "Then we went to Miami, and lo and behold, the song was playing on every radio in the city," Sammy D. says.

JANUARY-MARCH: Copies of Ms. Alamaze's "Don't Cha" reach stores. Meanwhile, Cee-Lo re-records the song with the Pussycat Dolls. The new version sounds almost identical but adds a verse from the rapper Busta Rhymes.

APRIL 14: Z100 in New York plays the Pussycat Dolls "Don't Cha" three times the day it's released. According to Z100's Tom Poleman, listeners call in immediately: "This is one of those big reaction records." In the next three months, Z100 will play the song 379 times.

MAY: The Pussycat Dolls' single is No. 75 on Amazon.com, which is selling only used copies of Ms. Alamaze's single. A reviewer on the site writes that Ms. Alamaze's version "is way better than that one of Pussycat Dolls." Posters to various message boards echo the sentiment. One writes, "The Pussycat Dolls are better known as the Copycat Dolls."

JUNE: Hip-hop retailers stock an unofficial 12-inch single, "Breezy Blends No. 3," that includes a mash-up of Ms. Alamaze's "Don't Cha" with Rick James's "Cold Blooded" and a Dave Chappelle sketch. File-sharing services offer an anonymous "chopped and screwed" rework of her recording.

LAST WEEK: The Pussycat Dolls rise to No. 4 on Billboard's Hot 100. In Poughkeepsie, N.Y., Ms. Alamaze gives a concert and is furious to find herself billed as "Tori Alamaze of the Pussycat Dolls."


I've got the Tori Alamaze version on a mix CD somewhere, I'll have to have a listen again and compare the two. Neither stood out immediately for me the first few times I heard the song, but maybe I just find the sentiment... unsettling.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:19 / 12.08.05
Bizarre mix on that Tori Alamaze version...the copy I've D/L'd has possibly the worst balance I've heard this year, all bass with the vocal lost about 3 miles behind the drums and struggling to assert any authority in the mix...Sounds like a good performance though.

It's been copied almost exactly for the PCD version...with the addition of Busta. The PCD one does have more energy though.
 
 
Char Aina
09:59 / 12.08.05
I just find the sentiment... unsettling.

ditto.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
12:03 / 12.08.05
In what sense? Predatory female?

The second or third verse seems very conservative and nice, IMO. The protagonist seems to be saying 'It's just lust, don't bother, you're actually happy with your Mrs., don't throw it all away just because I'm, er, 'raw' and 'freaky'.
 
 
Jackie Susann
06:23 / 05.09.05
Um, I thought the point of that verse was that it wasn't worth him breaking up with his girlfriend, and that they should just fuck around quietly on the side. It seems more in keeping with the general tone of the song.
 
  
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