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Bodies, Emotions, Healing Practices

 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
14:08 / 10.08.05
Adapted from a post on my lj, as it's something I'd like to throw about here/inspired in part by Ill's lovely Body Alchemy thread.

I have a long history of exczema, which has at times been extremely severe (in the worst phase, at uni, I had to be hospitalised with potentially-fatal infected atopic exczema. This also being the point thus far at which my mental health issues have been most serious.)

In recent years my skin problems have been pretty minor, this 'coinciding' with my looking hard at the scary emotional/mental stuff in my life.

Wrote this today, having had a bit of a flare-up, and would be interested to see what others make of it/experiences...

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Skin is sending me *loud* messages to slow down, take care of myself and process some of what's been happening. (ie exczema is erupting)

It's infuriating, but really interesting. Wondering how much effect going my counselling will have, as these days, my skin only really seems to erupt when I'm not processing poisonous stuff any other way. And I *know* there's stuff that I've been trying to ignore, and I'm keen to pour it out where I *know* it won't hurt me.

I seem, by will and happenstance, to have become a much more interconnected being(or perhaps just more aware of it) in the last few years. I now concieve of my skin as part of my 'early warning' system for 'not dealing with stuff' these days.

Does anyone else experience body processing of emotion/energy like this?

In Western medical traditions skin diseases are often considered to be stress-related. Stress is thought(?proved?) to lower the efficiency of the immune system.

I know it's very much a part of Ayruvedic/Traditional Chinese medical practices.

In the Chinese tradition, for example, each organ is considered to be the processing point for a different type of emotion, where poisons will manifest if you're not dealing with them.

The skin process is thought to process loss which, in light of my personal history of loss and skin complaints, was an astonishing discovery. (made over the course of a acupuncture consultation several years ago. Therapist was astonished at how 'textbook' my case history was.)


Also, it's making me thinking that working with my body to produce/provoke therapeutic altered states might well be productive at this point. I've got my thinking/talking/writing processing well covered these days, but suspect my bodily practices could do with a bit of a shake-up.

Any suggestions? (I have a few thoughts of my own, but i'd be interested to see what you lot come up with)
 
 
Chiropteran
14:18 / 10.08.05
I don't have time at the moment to delve into the topic more broadly, but I'll just mention that my own eczema disappeared almost completely when I finally ended a very stressful relationship. I also, mostly as a child, used to get conveniently ill (properly ill, not faking) to avoid doing things I felt anxious about. I've experienced the connection, definitely, but I'm not so sure about practices, per se. I'll think about it. Good topic.
 
 
Chiropteran
14:23 / 10.08.05
addendum:

The relationship(-the-ending-of-which-coincided-with-the-healing-of-my-eczema) was characterized by a lot of self-denial and Important Things Not Being Said and Dealt With, which fits nicely with your own observations.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
14:37 / 10.08.05
Great thread. I have experienced (from my Daime work) very deep intimations of the absolute physical manifestation of all thoughtforms within the body. Just as the thread abstrct is suggesting, every movement within the thinking/experiencing structure finds manifestation within the body...

I suspect that this began from the moment of birth, possibly even before...DNA is awesome material, and 'knows', I suspect, how to construct a perfectly functioning organism - free of, for example, allergy, asthma, cancer, osteoporosis and many other theoretically pathological malfunctions and diseases...However, lack of correct diet and poor mental functioning can almost certainly iterate, over time, into seerious complications.

As an aside, a daimista at the works I attend somehow managed to reverse bone cancer having been given months to live...at the risk of post hoc ergo propter hoc, he had no radiotherapy, but worked huge strides with the Daime...he still doesn't dance much, sitting for most of the works, but it's three years and running and he is thus far completely free of it. I don't know, but it gobsmacked me.

For my own part, I cannot recommend yoga enough for treatment of the sorts of symptoms you are suffering...I am chronically allergic to all pollens, but daily practice almost completely frees me from needing antihistamines. This was not why I started practicing, but has been a startling and noticeable side effect of the work, not to mention increased energy, limber joints and general respect for my body.

Even if you cannot manage full practice, the sun salutations and asanas would greatly help, I'm sure. S-l-o-w down the mind a bit.
 
 
rising and revolving
14:45 / 10.08.05
Ah yes, the getting ill (real ill, not faking) to avoid doing things you fear - I've had that in spades. Always a mysterious untreatable illness : for the most part, my body is a pretty good indicator of when I'm trying too hard or doing too much.

Not my skin though - for the most part, my problems manifest in the lungs and throat - which is again unsurprising, because most of my pain seems to be tied in and around my throat. Earlier this year I suddenly developed asthma, never having had it in the past, as a result of / reaction to the magical work I was doing. I think I needed to be taught humility, ultimately : I needed to be rendered weak and frail in order to better appreciate that everyone is fighting to do what they need to.

Also helped to better understand my fiancee, who's been through some pretty nasty health issues herself.
 
 
Unconditional Love
16:17 / 10.08.05
I have a skin condition called keratosis pilaris, basically i have scaly skin around hair folicles.

When i started kung fu, i realised the postures contained buddhism and taoism, literally embodied in movement and forms. I no longer practice kung fu but practice qigong on a daily basis and also the 3 main internal arts.

The kung fu i found to make very quick adjustments to the external chi of my body, muscle tone skin tone etc etc, but i found it overloaded me with heat and i started to develope a pain in my kidneys, noted as a jing depletion in chinese medicine, ie i was over practiceing.

so i decided to take a gentler approach(id tried it before) ive found my skin improving but at a much slower pace also my muscle tone is being maintained from the kung fu, also i am losing weight, something that went up and down during kung fu practice. It seems qigong based arts provide me with a more overall balanced approach to working.

It also seems to have helped balance out my sexuality. I am not quite sure how this has happened yet.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
17:24 / 10.08.05
excellent thread.

A friend of mine had her eczema flare up, so she's eliminated tomatoes, wheat, and sugar (all derivatives of sugar cane as well as processed sweeteners). She's eliminating this for six weeks...

after week 3, the eszema started to clear up. She'll be reintroducing each item, one at a time, to see if she can narrow down which causes the reaction.

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as for myself,
I got properly ill for 2 weeks during a depressive cycle - overly stressed from a confusing, ill-defined relationship. I stopped eating, slept irregularly, drank lots of coffee, ate little, etc...

the cycle usually breaks when I make butternut squash soup or borscht for some reason.

I think of stress as a protracted "fight or flight" response. Usually this reaction gets you out of trouble quickly, removing you from the source of stress, or the source of stress from you. If the source of stress can't be eliminated, then the long-term effects on the body wears down the immune system.

I was on a week-long cleanse a few months back, and after the first two days, I could feel the fluids in my body flowing more freely. I didn't realize how stagnant I'd become (physically). A couple more days of it, and I felt clearer mentally and emotionally as well.

it was difficult to maintain, due to the amount of time I was spending cooking for myself.

cleanses and dietary restrictions are much easier when they're done as part of a group - mutual support to see you through the chocolate cravings or what-have-you.

regular scheduled meals and sleep help to keep the bipolar swings minimal. Regular heart-pumping exercise increases the appetite and gets the fluids flowing.

results are clearer thoughts and less volatile emotional states. It keeps my roommates happy.

ta
tenix
 
 
illmatic
07:45 / 12.08.05
As others have said, fantastic topic.

To answer the topic abstract directly, YES.

It’s these practices which most interest me in fact. I’m really interested in how all the phenomena which we address through magick, the "occult", growth practices are embodied, literally. It seems inherent in all the stuff I’m really interested in. I’ve gone on at length here before about my interest in Wilhelm Reich, martial arts and so on I won’t revisit it for now (even though I’m having interesting results with the Reichian work), just to say, he’s the connection point between body and mind par excellence for me. You might find this link of interest: a Reichian therapeutic manual.

It’s probably doesn’t need saying but this model rests on the release of long held/unconscious tensions, so is going at a slightly different angle to the rest of the suggestion, it’s not “stress relief” as such. Goes a bit deeper, though obviously there's going to be a big interconnection.

I found your comments on excezma really interesting. Skin is the sort of point of contact/transition between our bodies and the rest of the world, the boundary between inside and outside. I’ll have to dig out Diane Ackerman’s book The Natural History of the Senses for you - there’s a whole chapter on skin in there which is well worth reading.

Any suggestions?

Well what are you doing at the moment? I think Money Shot’s suggestion of some yoga above is a really excellent one, as it’s something you can keep simple or really involve yourself with. Even just building a good fitness base through running or swimming or *insert exercise of choice* is well worth doing and can have a massive positive effect.

One thing I’m interested in is the somatic root or emotions – rather than getting involved with internal dialoguing, I’ll look to my body to see what I’m feeling, physically, and where, and note the connection. This is what NLPers talk about when they're doing congruence testing. Does this sort of process play any role in your counselling currently? If you're not doing it already, you could simply note body states and reactions (which feelings where) as part of your journalling and see if simply being aware of them gives you any basis for change.

Also, I think that the real interstitial point between body and mind is the breath, which is why it’s given such emphasis in so many non-Western systems (medical, spiritual etc). Perhaps this could be something you could look at. Again the process of simply noting it is often enough - do you breath differently at any times? Do you ever catch yourself holding your breath? Are there any tensions associated with your breathing generally?

You can take this further if you want/fell comfortable with it. The beginnings of Reichain work is to try and let the breath flow deeply and freely and seeing what tensions/resistances/feelings this brings up. If you lie down and pay attention to your breath, what happens? If you raise your knees and deepen it (breathing from your belly), what happens then? Playing around with expiration here can be useful – can you really let go on the outbreath? Lots of useful practical exercises in the manual inked above. It can bring up some quite heavy feelings but I think the best way to approach is is with a spirit of curiousity/playfulness...I think this could be a useful supplement to any therapeutic regime.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:35 / 12.08.05
Ooh, thanks for that link Ill.

Another aside : totally convinced about the whole DNA thing, I 'decided' prior to a trip to the tropics (Dominica) that I wasn't going to get bitten by mosquitoes.

Some people just never get bothered by mozzies. I figured this must have a genetic component, perhaps some pheromone or similar which repels the little fuckers. Working with the assumption that DNA must contain the correct instructions for manufacturing this 'property' I began, 8 weeks prior to going, that I would request, of my DNA, that it sorted me out in this fashion (which involved a sort of sigil work just prior to sleep, when I was really really shattered and in 'alpha' states...every night for a month...pushing the request into the unconscious sleepy brain).

Worked like a charm. OK, I stayed at higher altitude than usual, and there are less mozzies there, but everyone except me got savaged...(It was my wedding, so there were about 15-20 of my friends and family).
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
11:38 / 12.08.05
IIRC, its something to do with potassium. I heard a while back that mosiquots are more likely to bite you if you've been eating bananas...I think to do with the potassium, but I could be mistaken. This was years back.

One major mystical thing that I noticed was a few years back when we were first moving into our new house, I was screwing in a light switch cover and got a nasty shock. As far as I can tell, it basically wiped out all the magical charge that I was carrying around with me at the time. I had quite a bit built up, and then poof...it was gone. 'S only vaugley on topic, but has this happened to anyone else before?
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:21 / 12.08.05
Ive had great success with hip spiralling recently combined with deep abdominal breathing, ive been doing it til i get the urge to move on in differing directions, i am including breath retention of the in and out breath.

When i include the breathing to the movements this focuses my awareness in this area, and i get a feel for the tensions in my hips, my hips hold alot of tension as does my lower back, ive been working with that and had some intresting results.

i must include that this is a form of chi gung encouraged in many martial arts to develope power from the dan tien so i am also including knee spirals and a modified form of crane flying for my arms.

My result happened some days back, after practice i was so energised i couldnt sleep so i sat on my bed and meditated because mulling over the day wasnt helping me sleep either,
so i started with very deep abdominal breathing, an initial clearing breath held for about 30 seconds to really overcome the stress in the body, i find that clears me out, so i continue with emptying practice, through awareness of thoughts just letting them come and go watching the workings of consciousness if you like.

A sensation starts in my pelvis, very uncomfortable like my large intestine is alive, my mind traces back to an nde where a serpent coiled in my stomach, now this sensation is growing very uncomfortable as if i am going to vomit, i maintain my awareness stay still and let it grow, my large intestine, the serpent, uncoils and begins to move upwards, a panic is setting in but i am still maintaining my awareness, but i register something else, i have stopped breathing, or so it appears, literally the serpent climbs through my body, or perhaps bio energy from the large intestine stored through chi gung? my mind characterises this phenomena as a serpent, what ive always feared. as the climb begins something is released from my abdomen area, an energy, coloured light like phosphene patterns jewelled blues, greens and azures, i see these with my eyes.

I am no longer breathing, the feelings in my body have become so intense my body feels like solid bone. the energy/serpent glides into my mind, where it fills my brain as this giant reptilian eye. I am terrified but maintaining my awareness, without my nde i think i would of got up and started screaming long ago, without some psychedelic experience years ago as well i think this would of been overwhelming. i submitted to the experience.

Since this happened my body has been feeling lighter and more expansive, but my mind appears to be dealing with a hell of repression at present, along with intense concentration and focus, also a feeling of my mind is not my own. I think a life review similar to my nde experience is going to take place covering the last 6 years, i guess ill find out.
 
  
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