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Scrambled Password Bogus Email
13:50 / 03.08.05
Noni - Morinda citrifolia - is a fruit which is abundant in Dominica, which I tend to end up in every year on account of my dear in-laws living there...it's a really interesting looking fruit :



being quite solid, and foul tasting.

It is also, since the last half decade or so, being touted as a miracle health cure for just about everything - allergies, cancer, tumours, addictions, warrah, warrah, fishpaste etc.

OK, so it's 21st century snake oil, right? Even cleans your carpets?

It also, rather unfortunately, comes REGISTERED TRADE MARKED out the watoozi (how do I make that little 'R' in a circle?) from it's main distributor, Taihitian Noni International, and comes packaged with a network marketing angle which stinks to high heaven of 'Amway' style shite.

And it ain't cheap.

Buuuuuut, I'm not one to just dismiss such claims out of hand, deferring always to the 'proper' scientific hegemony which want me to take expensive patented drugs made in labs. This planet knows what the fuck it's doing, and seems likely, to me, to grow really useful, healing herbs in remote and hot tropical climates...my experiences with ayahuasca from over in the Temple thread have clearly demonstrated to me that plants can have unbeleivably mind boggling healing-properties, and that ancient cultures and tribal peoples are not quite as savage and superstitious as mainstream pharmaceutical employees and bursaries would have us believe.

So, if interested, just google it up and see for yourself, but I'm intrigued to know if anyone her on the 'lith has any tales to tell or knows of anyone who uses the stuff regularly or has been impressed / ripped off / whatever with its claims of health and energetic benefits.

It is, rather interestingly, the fourth fastest growing company of all time, putting Microsoft in the shade and pipped to the top only by Google, Fed Ex and Intel.

Spill the beans, if you hold 'em.
 
 
Persephone
19:25 / 03.08.05
I found two bottles in my dad's refrigerator, if you want 'em. But you should know that the reason I'm cleaning out my dad's refrigerator is because he died.
 
 
Tom Morris
18:51 / 04.08.05
You can keep sceptical without deferring to the scientific 'orthodoxy'. If the Noni stuff is worth it's salt, the company behind it will get research done.

My only experience is being approached by a network marketer to try to get me to sell it when I was at an alternative health fair (having a laugh at people in my area with more money than sense or knowledge of the scientific method).
 
 
grant
21:31 / 04.08.05
I have a bottle I got free from work, and was mixing it in soda water for a while, till I couldn't take it any more. Sort of vile stuff.

I have vague recollections of reading that it has some antioxidants, but not as much as, say, blueberries.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:20 / 05.08.05
You can keep sceptical without deferring to the scientific 'orthodoxy'. If the Noni stuff is worth it's salt, the company behind it will get research done.

Well, yes, and they have, though it can come across, as is often the case with more 'holistic' medicinal approaches, as convincing anecdotally only.

I mean, I don't know your position on this, but the scientific 'orthodoxy' would not readily endorse tai ch'i as a cure or preventative medicine for any particular condition, but i happen to think (and experience) different.

I know I'm only looking for more anecdotal reportage here, but, well...I trusts you guys!

I've got some at the moment, and it is pretty nasty...sort of tastes like bile, like when you were young and reckless and got drunk so hard you'd vomit through your nose...that sort of taste.

I've only been drinking it for a few days, so too early to tell for myself, I'm just interested to know if anyone really rates it or categorically thinks it's a load of old cobblers.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:22 / 05.08.05
Sorry to hear about your dad Persephone.
 
 
illmatic
12:50 / 05.08.05
I wonder if anyone has had any interesting effects from other much talked about supplemnts like ginseng or St John's Wort?

I met a german guy a year or two ago who had brought his own supply of durian to the country. It stunk like fuck, but you could feel the protein hit as you ate it. Was kind of like eating alcholic fermented cheese. But it tasted better than that sounds - marginally.

Sorry to go so off topic.
 
 
Persephone
13:21 / 05.08.05
Oh, I was just being funny. But anecdotally, I'd say that it doesn't do much for aortic dissection!
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:29 / 05.08.05
Howard Taylor at Schlockmercenary used to have a rant in his open letters section (down for the moment) about how, if they use noni to treat sewerage, it can't possibly be as expensive as they make it out to be...
I think there are cheaper sources of the same chemicals anyway.
 
 
Lord Morgue
06:57 / 17.09.05
Awright, got tired of waiting for H.T. to put his open letters section back up, so I Googled up an archived version.
Hey Noni Noni
 
 
quixote
00:01 / 06.10.05
Noni is interesting stuff. It has lots of pharmaceutically active secondary compounds, so it's bound to have some effects, and possibly some of them are even as advertised. However, in the Caribbean, where the fruit grows for the picking and doesn't cost the earth per liter, high doses of juice (i.e a couple of liters a day) were shown to be toxic for some people. Too much Noni juice causes hyperkalemia (excess potassium in the blood) and liver toxicity. Sloan-Kettering has reasonably complete information about the plant. (Search under "M" for Morinda citrifolia, if it dumps you at the top level.)
 
  
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