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7/7 and 9/11 Bombings- Concurrent Simulation Coincidences

 
 
Quantum
18:45 / 28.07.05
(Not sure where to put this thread.)

So I was reading a book on coincidence ('Beyond Coincidence' Plimmer & King) in which it has this story (paraphrased for brevity);

A US intelligence agency was planning an exercise simulating an aircraft crashing into a tower building on the very morning of 9/11.
The National Reconnaissance Office in Chantilly, Virginia, had an exercise planned for the morning of Sept 11th in which a small corporate jet would crash into the facility. The NRO office is 4 miles from Washington Dulles International Airport.
American Airlines flight 77 took off from Dulles at 8:10am and struck the Pentagon at 9:40am (killing 189 people) less than an hour before the exercise was to begin. The exercise was cancelled.
The pilot of fluight 77 (Charles Burlingame) an ex Navy flier, had as his last Navy job helped prepare Pentagon defense plans in the event of a commercial airline hotting the building.


As I read it I remembered a thread here on the 'lith about 7/7 (which I now can't find- anyone?) which commented on what a bizarre coincidence it was that a group of consultants were having a training exercise modelling explosions on the underground and the emergency response on the very morning it happened, using a model in which the three stations that were *actually* hit were blown up, and a bus. Which is what happened of course.

Now, I'm as sceptical as the next person but I find that an extraordinary coincidence that both events were being modelled AS THEY HAPPENED.

Can anyone find the thread referring to the 7/7 model? Does anyone have any reassuring explanations? I'm a bit shaken by it.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
22:27 / 28.07.05
As I read it I remembered a thread here on the 'lith about 7/7 (which I now can't find- anyone?) which commented on what a bizarre coincidence it was that a group of consultants were having a training exercise modelling explosions on the underground and the emergency response on the very morning it happened, using a model in which the three stations that were *actually* hit were blown up, and a bus.

And within that same thread, wherever it is, this claim was then shown to be utter rubbish.
 
 
Not Here Still
08:18 / 29.07.05
link to relevant thread part

Not quite absolute drivel but not how it's being portrayed in some quarters either. See fridge's comments.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
11:26 / 29.07.05
That was kind of how I remembered it. They do a lot of these things, apparently... think about it. Sometimes there's BOUND to be a fire while you're enacting a fire drill.
 
 
Quantum
14:00 / 29.07.05
i for one still think it's a splendid bit of coincidence. Bill Posters

That's more interesting to me than the conspiracy theories. There was a training exercise going on the morning of 9/11, and another on 7/7 (unless Peter Powers is lying), both similar enough to the actual attacks to be marked coincidences.

I was discussing this with a colleague yesterday who had an email about the 7/7 exercise (full of conspiracy and a few facts) and remarked what a meta-coincidence it was. She asked me where online I posted about it, so I said 'Barbelith, it's a...' and she interrupted to say she used to post and knew all about it. Quelle coincidence!


Well, having checked the conspiracy theory out, the emails sent round seem to be based on Indymedia, which is blatant nonsense (as pointed out in the thread linked, ta).

Check this rubbish out-
The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise. Indymedia

Compare the account in the first post with their version of events-
'This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.'
No, they weren't. The NRO was going to conduct a drill where a corporate jet experiencing mechanical trouble hit their HQ in Virginia, which they cancelled.
I particularly like the bit on the site where they say This is not speculation. Riiight...
 
 
Alpha Beth
13:42 / 30.07.05
I've been reading a fair bit about this too.

Don't know what to make of it, tbh.

David Tibet sings 'Seven & Seven is the Hidden Key' as a lyric in a song from many years ago...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:10 / 30.07.05
Tibet's been a little... weird... about the bombings on durtro recently as well. I know the guy's one of my heroes, but I'm not entirely sure I approve...
 
 
Benny the Ball
16:20 / 31.07.05
There was also the episode of The Lone Gunmen that showed a plane about to crash into the WTC - was this a sly reference to the fact that such an action would get conspiracists going at it, hiding a conspiracy in plain sight? Or just a coincidence? Or is it just like Jules Verne probably kind of said anything one man can imagine another man can make actaully happen?
 
  
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