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Sex with foxes

 
 
Unconditional Love
20:53 / 25.07.05
Sex with foxes"

The Cult of the Fox
Power, Gender, and Popular Religion in Late Imperial and Modern China

Xiaofei Kang


This wide-ranging work explores the shamanistic fox cult that has attracted large portions of the Chinese population since the late sixteenth century. As a symbol, the fox inhabits the space between such opposites as male and female, young and old, divine and demonic. It blurs rigid boundaries and forces a reconsideration of conventional social structures.

Although fox cults were derided as illicit from their very inception, they continue to thrive. Departing from officially sanctioned histories and examining various anecdotal literatures through the lenses of historiography, ethnography, and literary studies, Kang explores the significance of this fascinating religious phenomenon as well as its intrinsic ties with Confucian ideals, Buddhism, Daoism, and popular gods in Chinese history.

huli jing
 
 
Unconditional Love
20:55 / 25.07.05
sex with foxes
 
 
All Acting Regiment
19:37 / 26.07.05
It seems a bit limiting to describe all these themes as "sex with foxes".
 
 
macrophage
21:03 / 26.07.05
Ha funny I had a dream last year about a fox at a fair I think and it was based around my ex, it seemed to exist as a cross between Tails (from Sonic) and Robin Hood. All's fair in love and war!!! Anyhow usually if I dream about her it exerts a bad influence on the day - but then when you start off a relationship with someone who labels themselves a "jinx" you seem on the cards to setting the dominoes in motion!! She loves Robin Hood as well as the Green Man exists as one of her top egregores (her painting of him had a big smear factor to it through her old mates) and we had a Sega DREAMCAST for the kids!!!! The Fox is like the Spider fucking awkward I'd rather work with a Dog Totem anyday, the Fox seems a sly vixen archetype.
 
 
Unconditional Love
22:48 / 26.07.05
Tis a bit, but it was the name of the pdf that first grabbed my attention.
 
 
grant
02:21 / 27.07.05
I have a vague memory of reading about a traditional Chinese wedding ceremony where you had to check under the woman's skirts to make sure she didn't have a tail. The idea was that the foxes can disguise themselves as human women, but they always have to hide their tails -- the tails never get transformed with the rest of them.

This painter's site refers to tales of huli jing seducing men, marrying them, then eating them on their wedding night. And compares huli jing to Chinese zombies.

And here's a pdf of a Harvard thesis/dissertation/something about hulijing. It starts out pretty compellingly, with a couple great quotes about what foxes can do (at age 100, they can become shamans).

Google, amusingly enough, translates "hulijing" as "seductress."
 
 
Unconditional Love
12:49 / 27.07.05
I just got hold of a little chinese boxwood fox performing the taoist salute, ill see where it goes with the little fox.

also theres another article floating about about the modern northern fox cults in a chinese village where the villagers are redispersing the money ment to go to a buddhist statue to the local wu (medium)who heads a fox cult from a cave like sanctuary. cunning buggers.

Xiaofei Kang , this ladies book is out early next year making a study of fox cults, so that something to look forward too. the site called kitsune gives a good list of common modern misinterpretations of the fox myth.
 
 
Unconditional Love
13:09 / 27.07.05
modern japanese fox shrine

The kitsune book pdf
 
 
Unconditional Love
02:03 / 08.08.05
Ape Brides and Fox Neighbors: Coping with the Alien in Chinese Anecdote and Drama

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Organizer: Rania Huntington, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

Chair: Daphne Pi-Wei Lei, Tufts University

Discussant: Timothy R. Tangherlini, University of California, Los Angeles

The idea of the other as an indispensable part of the self is widely accepted; how does that dynamic change when the other is not human, or imaginary? Our panel will use ape and fox spirits to explore Chinese concepts of the alien. The fascination of these figures depends on the crossing of boundaries. They occupy the liminal space between us and other, civilization and barbarism, human and beast, the real and the imaginary, attraction and repulsion; by standing between these categories, they embody the tension between them. We will explore the interplay of gender, ethnic, and species difference in the construction of the alien, and the changes in that construction at different cultural moments.

Xiaofei Kang will discuss the intersection of "hu," fox, and "hu," barbarian in the Tang. Stories about fox spirits were a means of depicting assimilation and defeat of the outsider both on the family and the national level. Rania Huntington will examine Qing narratives about foxes residing in human homes and being worshipped. By telling stories about how they and others coped with aliens in the most intimate sphere, Qing authors also made distinctions between humans. Daphne Lei will look at popular border-crossing dramas of the turn of the twentieth century. The figure of Su Wu’s barbarian, ape wife shows the marginalization of the alien in gender and species terms at a time of tension about Chinese national identity. Our discussant Timothy Tangherlini will place the Chinese aliens in the context of international folklore.


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The Fox (hu) and the Barbarian (hu): Unraveling the Supernaturals in Tang Tales
Xiaofei Kang, Columbia University

During the Tang fox spirits were widely worshipped in village homes and extensively recorded by literati scholars. Fox spirits that were enshrined at home became insiders of the family. However, when they took on human bodies and sought to marry they were considered disruptive of normal life and were kept outside of the family. For the Tang literati writers, fox women impersonated courtesans and the like who provided them sensual pleasure and romantic fantasies, and yet had to be excluded from their formal family. Fox men, on the other hand, represented an idealized literati self-image that challenged their egos and had to be driven away.

For the Tang people family epitomized the inside world as opposed to the outside sphere of Chinese political and cultural dominance. The hu (fox), in Chinese a homophone of the hu, (barbarian), became a convenient tool to express their feelings toward elements of foreign religions and cultures that permeated many aspects of Tang life. The cultivation of the fox toward humanity and immortality corresponded to the degree to which the "barbarians" were transformed into Chinese. Confrontations between foxes who assumed the forms of gods or monks and Daoist or Buddhist exorcists show that the Tang people acknowledged the limited efficacy of "barbarian" power but were also determined to subject them into Chinese superiority.

Religious practices, family concerns and social experience mutually authenticated each other, reinforcing the marginal position of the fox and the social categories it embodied. The fox tales, as "petty talk" about the supernatural, reveal weighty matters in Tang mentality.


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The Alien Among Us: Foxes in Qing Homes and Society
Rania Huntington, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

According to Qing accounts, fox spirits commonly lived in human homes, both upper and lower class, urban and rural; and there are frequent accounts of religious relationships with the foxes. In exchange for a place to live and perhaps food offerings, people might be granted protection, profit, or conversation. The fox was in the paradoxical position of the alien closest to human households and human identity.

Accounts of relations with these aliens became a means of self-representation and comment on other humans. Different narratives are held at different distances by their authors: there are stories about oneself, named friends, anonymous strangers, apparently fictional characters, and people of another class or sex. Thus at the same time that foxes are ubiquitous in the human world, their presence is controlled. All sorts of people interact with foxes, but the distinctions between people are reinforced. Communication with the fox is cherished, but any form of financial transaction is attributed to "other" people’s improper relations with "their" foxes. "Our" relations with foxes are based on mutual respect, but they are motivated with concern for gain. "We" can make peace with foxes, but many others are tormented. By looking at narratives about foxes in the home, one can get a view of Qing society from the perspective of the forgotten attics and corners which the foxes haunted. The fox is revealing because it stands on the boundary between "us" and "them."


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Doubling the Marginalization, Doubling the Pleasure: Bestializing Barbarians in Chinese Local Drama at the Turn of the Twentieth Century
Daphne Pi-Wei Lei, Tufts University

At the turn of the twentieth century, when China had been ruled by the "non-Chinese" Manchurians for more than two centuries, and was facing the dual threat of Western colonization and internal political turmoil, a "true" Chinese identity desperately needed clarification and confirmation. During this era, the traditional genre of border-crossing drama—which regularly featured the marginalization of "barbarians" and the celebration of Chinese nationalist ideologies—took on a new mission in the form of popular local drama.

Late Qing border-crossing drama needed a new strategy to marginalize the new barbarian threats faced by the Chinese; the association of barbarians and beasts was part of this strategy. Su Wu’s barbarian wife, an ape-woman, is a good example. Theatrical convention illuminates certain popular beliefs of the time. As a huadan ("flower female," a dramatic type for "vivacious female" opposed to "dignified female," qingyi), the ape-woman always demonstrates her tantalizing sexuality (atypical repertory for huadan), and her tragic feminine pathos (in the parting scene, a necessary plot component in border-crossing drama). As the populace experienced direct social and economic effects of Western imperialism at the turn of the century, the search for a Chinese identity was at least as important to them as it was to the educational and economic elite. The double marginalization which took place in border-crossing drama of the time—the femininizing and bestializing of the barbaric Westerners—was a way both to secure a uniquely theatrical pleasure and to enact Chinese superiority for local audiences.


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Unconditional Love
02:17 / 08.08.05
Alien Kind
Foxes and Late Imperial Chinese Narrative

Rania Huntington

To discuss the supernatural in China is "to talk of foxes and speak of ghosts." Ming and Qing China were well populated with foxes, shape-changing creatures who transgressed the boundaries of species, gender, and the metaphysical realm. In human form, foxes were both immoral succubi and good wives/good mothers, both tricksters and Confucian paragons. They were the most alien yet the most common of the strange creatures a human might encounter.

Rania Huntington investigates a conception of one kind of alien and attempts to establish the boundaries of the human. As the most ambiguous alien in the late imperial Chinese imagination, the fox reveals which boundaries around the human and the ordinary were most frequently violated and, therefore, most jealously guarded.

Each section of this book traces a particular boundary violated by the fox and examines how maneuvers across that boundary change over time: the narrative boundaries of genre and texts; domesticity and the outside world; chaos and order; the human and the non-human; class; gender; sexual relations; and the progression from animal to monster to transcendent. As "middle creatures," foxes were morally ambivalent, endowed with superhuman but not quite divine powers; like humans, they occupied a middle space between the infernal and the celestial.
 
 
Unconditional Love
02:23 / 08.08.05
Chinese Fox Myths
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
08:42 / 08.08.05
Franky Furbo anyone?

One of my fave books of all time.
 
 
Unconditional Love
08:44 / 08.08.05
that book sounds cool, will search it out.
 
 
Anthony
18:43 / 08.08.05
had a dream last night actually about cuddling a baby fox. are fox spirits on the ascendent or something?
 
 
FinderWolf
20:09 / 08.08.05
at the end of his Animal Man run, Grant Morrison talked about an "imaginary" fox friend he had as a child, named Foxy. I remember him mentioning this in some other interview or piece or something also.
 
 
Scrambled Password Bogus Email
21:19 / 11.08.05
that book sounds cool, will search it out.

Thank you, circles! I read it many many years ago and vowed that when I had a child I would obtain it and make a part of their upbringing

But I was lazy.

For some reason, your post there made me get off my ass, and I am now, as of this morning, proud possessor of a first edition hardbock copy courtesy of the Internet Bookstore (it's out of print, Jeebus knows why).

Anyhoo, 'twas you who inspired me to put my money where my mouth was, so I thank you most sincerely.

:-)
 
 
Unconditional Love
23:04 / 11.08.05
cheers, every read the brear (sp) rabbit stories? i was read them as a child, thats what it all started to remind me of, especially anths post.
 
  
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