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What car do you drive?

 
 
Sax
07:52 / 20.07.05
Motor cars generally being seen as the Great Satan of Barbelith, what with their propensity for guzzling up the world's feeble resources, polluting the atmosphere, killing people and generally being A Bad Thing, they don't get much of an outing here on the boards.

Some of us, doubtless, do have them, though. Like guilty secrets. Like the packet of McVitie's digestives squirrelled under the sofa cushion. Like the deformed half-brother in the basket. Like the Toploader CD hiding inside a Godspeed You Black Emperor casing.

So. Your car. Did you buy it because you like cars, you enjoy the brum-brum noise it makes, it makes you feel special? Or maybe you have one for necessity - you live in Wales, for example, or have to ferry your deformed half-brother around every evening so he can sate his abnormal lusts on ladies of the night.

I must admit to not having a great affinity with cars in the way that "blokes" are apparently meant to. I always put the fluids in the wrong pipes and never remember to add oil until the thing grinds to a crushing halt on a motorway somewhere.

I currently have a battered up Rover 200, which is the Devil's Car and has cost me absolutely hundreds of pounds because I was sold a pup. I need transport because of my job - I'm a journo who has to be able to dash off and hassle single mums and celebrities at the drop of a hat, and also because we live several miles out of town and also need to drop our kids off at nursery in the morning and pick them up at night. Those things not being as they are, I could probably live without a car and wouldn't mind doing so.

On the other hand... I really want a new Mini. I used to have an old Mini, which was the wasps nipples and made me feel sexy and nice.

Also, with two kids and the associated clutter that comes with them (going to the shops is a military operation, and when you get there you can't buy anything because there's no room in the car), I really probably should invest in some kind of *spits* people carrier. Which, bizarrely, would be more eco-friendly than the old oil bucket I'm currently running.

So. Your car. Do you like it? Is it just a functional piece of metal? Do you run one when you don't really need to? And do you know you were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off?
 
 
Ariadne
08:21 / 20.07.05
I've no car, just three bikes. That said, I live in the middle of a city with good buses, so it's easy to be car-free. And I've had so many crap cars that I really love not having one to worry about.

That said, my first car was a gorgeous orange 1972 Mini, and I loved it. Even if it only worked intermittently.
 
 
sleazenation
08:49 / 20.07.05
Like most Londoners, I don't need to run a car to get around, so i don't own one. Unlike many Londoners I can actually drive...
 
 
Loomis
08:59 / 20.07.05
Getting rid of my car about 6 years ago was the best thing I ever did, and was made possible by my living in the city. I love not having to worry about whether it will start in the morning or whether it will shit itself on the motorway or whether I will have an accident and get involved in some insurance fiasco. Of course this is because I have only owned old cars. And I must admit I have had some good times cruising along in my car with the sun shining and the stereo blaring (when it wasn’t chewing my tapes).

Cars have only ever been a mode of transport to me; I've never been "into" cars. What I miss about cars is that I would often like to drive off to the countryside to go walking in the mountains and I wish I had a car to be able to do so. And for the occasional trip to Ikea or wherever. But I much prefer hopping on a bus with a book then sitting in traffic. Plus I never looked after them, as the stories of my two cars will attest.

I washed them once a year max which in hindsight wasn't the best idea since the acid from lumps of bird shit ate away the paint and I ended up with big shrivelled spots all over the bonnet. I wasn't too bad with topping up oil and water because I had to be with such old shitboxes, and I changed the odd part when things fell off. Fortunately my dad was quite handy with such things (having fully restored a vintage car from a pile of rust in a paddock to a beautiful driveable saloon), so he helped me change some bits and save lots of money on services, etc. Without that help I would have no doubt chucked wads of cash down the drain which isn't so good when you're a penniless student.

My first car was a Mazda 929 which was about twenty years old. Worked fine on the whole and was dead cheap. And it was a sexy light brown colour, which became two tone when I had to replace a rusty door with a dark brown one I got from a scrap dealer. Sold that after a couple of years for the same price I bought it for. Result!

My second car was an Audi 100, which was more than twenty years old, thus was very cheap, but still running pretty well. It had a dodgy wheel joint that clunked every time I turned a corner but I still waited over a year to replace that. I went through a stage of many months where the thermostat didn't work so every time I got in and out of the car I had to open the bonnet and manually turn the engine fan on and off. I also had a long stint with a dodgy battery that had to be regularly jumpstarted and fiddled with. Problem being that in Audis the battery is under the back seat. Friends would be amused when they came to get a lift in my car only to find that the back seat was in pieces because I had got tired of putting it back together.

I persevered with this car for about 4-5 year and drove it into the ground. It suffered a great deal at my hands I'm afraid. One day when accosted by a giant spider while driving, I pulled over and proceeded to rip all the interior off the driver's door looking for the bugger. These bits went in the boot with other assorted flotsam.

I don't know how I kept passing rego but I did it somehow with the help of an eccentric mechanic who used to race cars in Britain. One day he asked me about uni and when I told him I was doing a class on ethics, he questioned the point of that. He then gestured to his dog in the corner and said: “If I want to fuck my dog and he appears to like it, who’s to say it’s right or wrong?”

I eventually got rid of this car at the age of about 24-5, and haven’t looked back. The fortune I save in registration and insurance can pay for plenty of taxis and hire cars when necessary.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
09:51 / 20.07.05
I need the car for work, honest guv'. I've a green VW golf, with electric windows, which is a few years old. Borrowed the money to pay for it when my old Golf went kaput. Living in Harrow, far north-west London, there are excellent transport links, lots of shops and a supermarket within easy walking distance. I work shifts in another suburban borough and having a car is a requirement for my job as I'm a keyholder for sheltered housing schemes and install emergency alarms in families homes all over the borough.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the freedom of being able to drive whenever I want. I took my mam on holiday to the Lake District last month, although I could've rented one, and it's convenient when scoring in the middle of the night. Like Loomis said, it's a pleasure to have the windows down on a sunny day with the stereo blaring %toploader% at full volume. Usually though it's overcast, I'm stuck in traffic and I need my inhaler.
 
 
Loomis
10:08 / 20.07.05
I should add that cigarettes taste much better when behind the wheel of a car. I think it's something to do with using the little car ciggie lighter, despite the fact that they must be the most dangerous idea this side of a helicopter ejection seat.

Do modern cars still have them built in?
 
 
Brunner
10:19 / 20.07.05
Cars I have owned (with comments):

* Off-white 1971 Morris 1300, acquired 1988 for NZ$1,700. Engine blew up 1 yr later at 60 miles an hour on the motorway. Sold for scrap NZ$300.

* White 1983 Mazda 323, acquired 1989 for NZ$5,000. Great car but written off in 1990 and eventually sold for scrap (NZ$500) as I had 3rd party insurance only. I learnt my lesson re insurance and driving with my glasses on!

* Orange 1977 Datsun 120Y estate, acquired 1990 for NZ$1,850. Eventually required 2 litres of engine oil every fortnight to keep it running. Swapped for next car.

* Silver and rust 1979 Daihatsu Charade hatchback. Swapped 1991 for above Datsun. Sold 1993 for NZ$300 when leaving NZ.

* Brand new 2001 green VW Polo. Company car for 3 years. A reliable car completely devoid of character.

* Brand new 2004 blue and white 1600cc Mini Cooper with loads of extras. Company car for 6 months. The only car I have had any passion for. I cried when I had to gave it back.

* 2004 purple 1 litre Nissan Micra. Imagine going from a Mini Cooper to a Nissan Micra??? Still, it has low CO2 emissions and high miles per gallon. Thinking of trading it in for an LPG converted VW camper....
 
 
Axolotl
10:20 / 20.07.05
Back when I lived in the suburbs I had a car as it was essential to get work and get around. Now I live in the city I don't bother as a) I don't need one & b) I can't afford one.
My first car which was passed to my sister and then back to me was a Mini dating from the year of my birth. I loved it despite its rusty appearance and occasional break downs. It was fun to drive and gave the impression of far greater speed due to the nearness of the ground, I even fitted my own stereo from scratch.. It eventually went to that great scrap heap in the sky after an MOT where the mechanic pointed out that he could push a pencil through the floor.
I also owned a vintage Saab 99, from which the 900 evolved. This cost me £250 pounds and only lasted 9 months before breaking down, however while it lasted it was great. Incredibly large & heavy it involved a full upper body workout at every roundabout but the ride was luxurious, the seats heated & very comfortable and it drew admiring glances wherever I went. I thought about upgrading to an old Saab 900 turbo but couldn't really justify it to myself.
 
 
Olulabelle
10:20 / 20.07.05
I was given a courtesy car the other day with no cigarette lighter, but with a power socket.

Phones have become the new smoking.

My car has both. I bought my car using some of the money my Father left me. It's a new beetle and it's lovely and I know I shouldn't like cars but I can't help it.
 
 
Brunner
10:23 / 20.07.05
Yeah, most cars do still have cigarette lighters. But these days you are supposed to use them not for cigarettes but for charging mobile phones or mp3 players, or powering a car vac or heating water for tea via those ridiculous car kettle things you can buy from SAGA magazine...
 
 
William Sack
10:48 / 20.07.05
I have a Skoda Octavia estate. I am not a petrol-head, and don't know a great deal about cars, but it gets the Jacksons from A-B. I quite like the fact that it is essentially the same car as an Audi A4 (A6? I never know) or a VW Passat, but with a Skoda badge on the front and costing a couple of grand less.
 
 
Jub
11:57 / 20.07.05
I'm hearing that Jackson. A-B. I don't really understad the allure of endlessly talking about them and salivating over them a la Clarkson. very odd.

I'm on the lookout to buy a car if any london 'lithers are looking to sell. PM me.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:21 / 20.07.05
I love cars. I love them so much that I can actually watch Top Gear. I love how fast they go, I like slamming the gear box into place, I like torturing old cars so they go faster, I love driving and the only thing that ever makes me sad about living in London is not needing a car.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
13:08 / 20.07.05
See, I love watching TG as well and slavering about engine capacities, fuel injection, 0-60 stats etc. Friend and I are going to try and get in the audience at some point.

But I don't have a car licence/have no desire to get one, so it's a purely aesthetic thrill for me. I love comparing car design/detailing and the overall performance stuff...

(However, I do have a bike licence, so I suspect it's just displaced bike-love, as there's very little about bikes on telly, and much of the principles are the same. No bike though, and even if it were affordable, not so sure I'd get one these days.)

Have no desire to get a license, haved lived in cities/small towns for years and my lifestyle doesn't is such that have never noticed a need for a car. Also aesthetically/politically/personally/environmentally am massively in favour of public transport. I love travelling long-distance by train, for eg.
 
 
ibis the being
19:14 / 20.07.05
I too need a car for work. I'm an independent contractor (as if I haven't mentioned that a million times already) and need enough space to cart around gallons of paint, dropcloths, stepladders, a shop vac, etc.

After my last used van fell apart, I got a tip about a used Dodge Caravan from another contractor I'd worked with. Coincidentally it was sitting idle as a summer beater in the vacation town where my dad lives. On a visit to dad I checked it out and bought it for $500 on the spot.

It has a little problem - fan doesn't work so I frequently overheat, particularly in this nasty July weather, and I haven't had the spare bucks to fix it yet. But so far it's been serving me well, knock wood.

It had a cassette player which was v. exciting as I got to drag out all my old tapes to listen to - and then it broke. Bleh. Radio all the way. And I can't use the A/C because of the overheating thing.
 
 
astrojax69
21:23 / 20.07.05
i ride a bike to work most every day - and love it - but with a s/o and two big kids, one of whom now drives more than i do, and a photographic business on the side, we certainly need a car. we lease one, so get a new one.

came back from an o/s trip a few years ago where we were impressed with a little 101 pug we'd rented in portugal, in need of a car as we'd sold the last before departure, so our shopping list on the first day home was 'bread, milk, vegetables, car, rice, fruit, cereal...'

looked at a few different ones in our price range - two incomes - and got a 307 peugeot. very nice, smooth, efficient and a neat sound system. but i hardly ever drive it, just pay for it!

that said, i would love to get a motor bike again. owned an old v8 rover as my first car, a small v8 kingswood ("not the kingswood! just put tomato sauce in the glovebox..") as a second, then - best thing i ever did - had three bikes: an r65 beemer, a ducati 900 & a k100rs beemer before regressing to become a poor student on shanks pony. sold the last after it sat and rusted (not literally) in the shed for six months or more... loved the duke. want another one... whooosh!

so current pug is only the second next car i've had - so went fifteen years without owning a car. can't see myself without one now, though. australia is a big place! [mine and s/o's families live variously up to 1500km away; nearest is 300k's]
 
 
Benny the Ball
21:41 / 20.07.05
List of cars and details;

VW Polo - fantastic car, green old and totally reliable (reliable to not work unless the choke was out full in the winter, reliable to have the windscreen wipers cross over and create a usless x when it rained too hard and you switched them on, reliable to laste for a week on a fiver of petrol).
Ford Escort - black and old and another totally reliable car. Cheap to fix, only had an old radio/cassette thing, the cassette was broken and the radio only picked up two stations (five live being one of them) so long journeys were fun, but it could do them without breaking out in an automotive sweat. If more than two people were in the car, it stuggled.
Nissan Primera - given to me by a friend, leaked, the footwell on the passanger side slowly collected with rain water, got broken into and had nothing in particular stolen from it (excet the windscreen wiper blades, which I only discovered one morning on the way to work in the rain) slowly died on me, over a long and expensive period of time, the head gasket cracking as I just about made it off the M4 on the way to work one morning - got the damn thing taken away.
Honda Civic - brand new and bought with the ex. A lovely car, smelt, felt and dealt beautifully, only had 4 miles on it when I drove it away from the dealership. When me and the ex split up my half went to her. She pranged it about four times, but it's still in great shape.

Since then I've either had cars hired for me from work, used my housemates Ford Focus (which is okay) but not too often, normally to collect Mrs The Ball from the Airport.

I do have a scooter, a 50cc vivacity pergeout thing, which is great for short journey's, but is dull to ride when you are going any kind of distance. Still, I love it.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
00:18 / 21.07.05
I've got a pretty new black VW Golf, but I live in rural Maine, and you need that shit if you want a job. The cigarette lighter in it is deadly, though- it LAUNCHES right out of the socket, so you have to keep your hand right in front of it unless you desire a trash fire. I have unpaid bills and empty cigarette packs all over the passenger side floor, which is right where it usually falls. I thought German engineering was supposed to be all sweet?
 
 
aus
03:45 / 21.07.05
When I lived in Melbourne, I could go for a year or more without a car. Now I live in Nashville and I wouldn't be able to get to work without one.

I've owned and/or driven:
1969 Mazda R100 - my first car, it cost $300, went in straight lines OK but didn't like going around corners. It's engine filled up with oil and water overnight, so I sold it for $75 to someone who intended to put a bigger rotary engine in it, lower it to the ground and race it.

1970 Mazda 1200 - almost the same car, but with smaller wheels, four doors and a much more economical and reliable engine. It could get over 40 miles per gallon (not the US gallon, the other gallon) if driven conservatively in the suburbs. I could get it up to 60 miles per gallon if I really tried. I ran into the back of a Kingswood and the little Mazda crumpled up like a cigarette packet. The Kingswood did not have any visible damage aside from a slight dent in the rear bumper.

1974 Leyland P76 V8 - it was great fun to own. A family of four could comfortably live in it and perhaps rent out the trunk to a poor student. That would be five people living in a house that could exceed 100 mph and was used for various immature street racing antics after minor engine modifications. My partner at the time didn't like big cars, so I sold it and bought...

Daihatsu Handivan - the two-cylinder engine sounded like a motorcycle when one of the mufflers died, which was fine by me. We packed it full of everything we owned and drove it from one end of Australia to the other at about 70 km/h (45 mph). We wore it out.

1988 Daihatsu Charade 1.3 (my only new car) - with a 16 valve engine and a light body, this thing was decently quick as well as being economical. On the open, deserted roads of the Northern Territory, I legally cruised it at around 150 km/h (95 mph), which was more a limitation of me than the car. I had this car for quite a few years and drove it across Australia in the other direction. I crashed this one and thereafter went without a car for a while.

At the same time, I had a Honda C110 that I bought second hand from Australia Post. It was our second vehicle. I loved this thing because it cost nothing to run and becasue I could ride it at full throttle anywhere without getting a speeding ticket. I also rode it down walkways on the sides of buildings, parked it in my boss's office... basically, a red Honda C110 can get away with anything. People were used to seeing them ridden on footpaths because that's what Australia Post do with them. Do posties still ride C110s?

1980 Triumph TR7 ($3000 plus plenty more!) - I had a V8 put in this thing and I had all sorts of plans for it, but I got it airborne on the way up to Sydney. The flight was OK, but the landing was a bit rough.

Then I moved to the USA.

1985 Dodge Omni - I got it for free and it probably wasn't worth much more. I kept it going until it wouldn't go any more and nobody could work out why. Then we bought something else for my partner and I took over the...

1996 Saturn SL1 - so this is what I drive now. I didn't choose it - it was here before me. It seems reliable enough, but it uses oil as I've heard most of the S-series Saturns do. It gets around town OK, but we use the other car whenever we're traveling together, which means I drive the second car. How did this happen to me? Where's my sports car? Where's my motorcycle? Where is that large automobile? What is that beautiful house? Where does that highway go? Am I right? Am I wrong? MY GOD! WHAT HAVE I DONE?
 
 
aus
22:35 / 21.07.05
I knew I would kill this thread with my awesome array of automobiles.
 
 
lekvar
00:05 / 22.07.05
I have to have a car in order to get to work, since the Bay Area public trans system, while better than most areas in the US, is still pathetic. It's a '99 Pontiac Sunfire, and it has managed to completely overcome my innate distrust of American auto manufacturers.

I took a year of auto shop back in high school and realized that I was going to have to be monetarily secure enough to be able to pay someone else to deal with the stuff that goes on under the hood. To quote Sam from Sam & Max: Freelance Police, it's dark and foul-smelling and I might get something on my hat.

I gave up the auto for 3 years in the 90's, and it was great. I was living in a smaller city so I could get anywhere worth being using my feet or a bike. I'm hoping to move to Berkeley, Oakland or San Francisco soon and I look forward to being able to retire the Sunfire and going back to a car-free lifestyle.

For the most part I don't care about cars as symbols, unless they are small and sleek. The Arial Atom is pure sex. My dad just got himself a BMW z3, and every now and then the thought occurs to me that only one small accident stands between me and that car...
 
 
astrojax69
00:06 / 22.07.05
Do posties still ride C110s?

yes, aus, they do. nostalgia's not what it was, but some things never change!
 
 
Seth
04:29 / 22.07.05
I have an eleven year old Ford Escort van, the white kind that makes me look like a painter/decorator. I love it. There's no power in the engine, but it's diesel and gets me from Southampton to Birmingham and back on half a tank. I can fit all the band gear in the back. And if I fancy a late night trip out to the beach or forest it's easy. I have a huge number of options open to me that I wouldn't have otherwise. The stereo's great and I love driving, especially at dawn. All in all passing my test was one of the best things I've ever done, and I wish I'd done it sooner.
 
 
Triplets
11:03 / 22.07.05
Do you keep a fresh stock of sweets and puppies at all times?
 
 
Seth
17:07 / 22.07.05
No, but I do keep a few naked children locked up in the back. Just in case my dick needs feeding.
 
 
Triplets
17:24 / 22.07.05
Well played, sir, well played.
 
  
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