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This is the News…

 
 
sleazenation
21:52 / 17.07.05
In another thread, Smoothly suggested the idea of a thread on the relative merits of various TV news and current affairs programmes.

So, what news programmes do you watch, what is your favourite and what is their format?

Personally, I have a news habit that possibly borders on obsession. OK so I don’t have a morbid fear of missing any particular news programme – but I do watch rather a lot of news.

I start in the morning before work usually with some brief snatches of BBC Breakfast News (broadcast both on BBC1 and BBC News24). This is a Magazine format programme that includes bulletins as well as features and trails for events that will be coming up later that day. It’s likely to include some author of programme maker plugging their wares at some point. By and large it is quite light and frothy – the consistency of a morning cappucino.

I might also catch bits of the today programme on BBC Radio 4. Far more serious, The Today Programme features segments on global politics but also plays a large part in setting the political agenda for the day. This will be the first port of call for Ministers setting out their latest policy or replying to criticism or controversy in the papers.

Once I’ve left the house I usually pick up a paper to read on the way to work. I usually have a good idea of all the paper’s front pages thanks to newsnight/bbcnews24 on the previous evening which includes coverage of the early editions of the next day’s papers. I tend to pick up the Guardian, mainly because of the jobs section on a Monday, Technology section on a Thursday and Arts sections over the weekend. The Independent has recently stated featuring more highly designed covers devoted to single story, and this has often caught my attention enough to buy it.

At work I tend to glance at the BBC news website during the day and read any interesting looking articles.

In the evening I usually watch Channel 4 News, in preference to the BBC’s two main half-our long flagship news bulletins at 6 and 10 (respectively termed the 6 o’clock news and the 10 o’clock news). Channel 4 News is both longer than either of these programmes and tends to offer a greater range breadth and depth of coverage. In addition to bullitin style coverage of the main events of the day it also regularly features interviews with ministers and representatives of various NGOs discussing the issues of the day.

Later in the evening (10.30pm) there is Newsnight on BBC 2. Newsnight’s format is quite close to the 7 pm Channel 4 News, but with less on the news of day, outside of a very brief overview, and an even greater commitment to breadth and depth of coverage on world events, with an additional focus on the field of UK politics. Newsnight raises larger questions and also offers an overview of the next days papers…

In addition to this, I watch a fair bit of BBC News 24 (rolling news cut with pre-packaged themed segments) and BBC Radio FIVE LIVE, a rolling news and sport station.

So, yeah, as a great all round news programme, that has a remit that covers more than a simple rundown of the main stories and events of the day Channel 4 wins out, but it is only ahead of Newsnight by a nose.

How about you guys?
 
 
Smoothly
02:15 / 18.07.05
I don't even look at the news until I get to work - I struggle to get out of the house as it is, without that distraction. I have a look at the front pages of all the papers when I arrive at the office (which is a pretty good way to grasp the day's big picture), then switch on Sky News.
I like Sky News, partly for its sensationalism. It has a tendency to cry wolf with its 'Breaking News' banners, but if rumour is brewing, it'll be the first to make a splash of it. I have TV on my desktop rather than a stand alone set, and just click to it every now and again - so strong visual cues suit me. If anything looks interesting, I can slip headphones on and pick up the story.

I don't tune into any particular daytime bulletins, but watch the Channel 4 News at 7 if I can. I'm very keen on Jon Snow as a broadcaster - there's something about his lack of polish and slightly rumpled demeanour that appeals to me. He is, in many ways, the anti-Trevor McDonald. He's not got the forensic style of Paxman, or John Humphreys' dogged tenacity, but an easy manner can bring out the best from interviewees, particularly on softer subjects. I also like Krishnan Guru-Murthy - there's something everymanish about him. I also like the fact that the programme gives a relatively high priority science and technology stories (credit, I guess, to Julian Rush's skills lobbying behind the scenes).

I probably relatively modest in my aspirations, but I feel pretty much set if I just watch that and Newsnight at 10.30. I'm an unashamed fan of Paxman, but it's Newsnight's women that are its greatest strength, IMO. Kirsty Wark, Martha Kearney, Susan Watts, Stephanie Flanders... all fantastic. Its world news sometimes feels a bit US-oriented, but that feels increasingly pertinent, and anyway complements Channel 4's slight lean towards European news. Also, Newsnight does economics in such a way that even a schmoe like me can understand it.

The Newsnight brand has expanded recently, and along with the Friday night cultural review programme, there have been some quality Newsnight debates and interviews. Panels nearly always well balanced and thoughtfully researched. Newsnight's stance is probably slightly more to the centre than the pinker Channel 4, and panels generally feel fastidiously well balanced and they can normally attract the heavy-hitters. Both programmes do pretty well for exclusives, something that doesn't seem to be part of the brief for BBC1 and ITV.

If there's no Big Brother, rolling news goes on late at night as background - although BBC News 24 more often that not. There's something about the Beeb which I find reassuring. If Auntie doesn't have anything more to tell me from the day, I feel I can go to bed safe in the knowledge.

As for current affairs programmes, there isn't a particular strand I feel a strong loyalty towards, and apart from Question Time, there's none that I'll make an effort to view regardless of the subject. The BBC has fucked around with Panorama so much, some of the corporation's evident loss of confidence has rubbed off on me as a viewer. Trevor McDonald on ITV pulls off some tremendous scoops, but they feel squandered somehow, and it's become much more of a consumer show in the main. Dispatches on 4 is often good, but stand-alone documentaries tend to be stronger than the flag-ship brands on all channels. Pervertedly, I quite like Andrew Neil's Politics Show with Michael Portillo and Diane Abbott, but mostly to gawp at their combined ghastliness.

More to say on this, but it's late and the TV is telling me that it's okay to go to bed.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
03:15 / 18.07.05
I echo Smoothly in news patterns and basically watch the same programmes. I do make an effort to watch This Week because I find the political take on events quite interesting and it both rounds up the general news and provides that.

I've recently become more inclined to watch Newsnight because it's featured some great articles although I did scream at the complete lack of Muslim women featured on one of them last week.

I check the BBC news site about once a day, I usually run my eyes over the headlines and then choose stories at random if they interest me at all. I glance over the international page first and then the UK page.

Channel 4 news is by far my favourite. I find the style very easy and it tends to prioritise news stories in the way that I would want them to be.
 
 
sleazenation
20:38 / 18.07.05
Further indictment of my news obsession:

After watching a repeat of Have I got News for you the continuity announcer points out that coming up next is a specially extended Newsnight featuring the first Western interview with Iraqi cleric Moqtadr Al Sadr and I literally went ‘oooooooo’ with active interest…
 
 
Smoothly
21:41 / 18.07.05
I've just been thinking how right I was about Newsnight myself.
Is it my imagination, sleaze, but when Eddie Mair did the markets, did he say something strange at the end? Almost like an on-air resignation? Didn't he say:
"FTSE 100 index down, meanwhile the pound was down against the euro, and against the dollar, down ... I know how it feels."

My girlfriend wrinkled her brow at the same moment and said she heard the same, so I don't think I imagined it.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
23:29 / 18.07.05
can't say as I am much of a television news hound.

it upsetsssss ussss too much. I end up yelling and ranting at the cathode ray tube as it winks at me, seemingly knowingly...

my father, however, cannot, willnot, mustnot miss the weather...

so thank the gods for strict scheduling of the local weather report (on the CBC), and the canadian weather channel.

at least with those reports, it's something you know is going to affect your life directly. everything else says maybe.

ttfn
ten ix
 
 
Smoothly
00:32 / 19.07.05
What is it with the weather? It's on all the time. In 5 minute news bulletins, about 2 minutes is devoted to the latest developments in air pressure. And you know what, I don't give a fuck. The most I want to know is: do I need a coat. I don't care if rain is patchy or scattered or intermittent or coming in from an easterly direction.
I know I know I know that some people can find space to care about nothing but the weather - people with barometers in their hallways and a confident line in small talk, but some people care about all sorts of things, and yet we're not relentlessly updated with the state of state of Britain's beaches, bird migration or the racing form. And there are things that matter much more to most people than direction of the prevailing breeze that don't get anything like the same exposure. I'm sure more people care more about the state of the roads or public transport than they do the weather. And what about when they spin the globe around to cheerfully tell us that it's unseasonably balmy in Randomville Nebraska? No offence to the Randomvillians, but Who. Gives. A. Fuck? I mean who? How many people watching that are thinking, 'What a stroke of luck. I'm flying to Nebraska tomorrow for an air-conditioning convention!'?

Maybe it's different in Canada when there's a real risk of avalanches or tornadoes or something. But I'm talking about Britain where, + or - 1 degree and a fair chance of light precipitation 11 months of the year, there's an 85% chance that tomorrow will be just like today.
Makes me mad.
 
 
X-Himy
02:04 / 19.07.05
I am in America, a veritable wasteland of television news. The reaction I have to watching television news gives me hives, so I avoid it as much as possible. It is utterly puerile. I get most of my news from various newspapers (and websites whereof), and political blogs (I am liberal, so thus liberal blogs, though I try to read some conservative ones to see what the other side thinks).
 
 
Tryphena Absent
02:39 / 19.07.05
The most I want to know is: do I need a coat. I don't care if rain is patchy or scattered or intermittent or coming in from an easterly direction.

I think it's for people with plants. If it's patchy you might still need to water your really thirsty plants but definitely leave the lavender alone.
 
 
Loomis
08:06 / 19.07.05
Smoothly = on the money. Fucking weather reports! All I want is a number and a picture. Just tell me 18 and show me a little cloud with a rain drop or a little sun with a smiley face. What else do you need? Who gives a fuck about high and low pressure systems and a detailed explanation of why it will be 18 and not 20? Sometimes you're standing in front of the tv trying to get out the door but just waiting for them to tell you what the temp will be and they're busy showing you an animation of the entire fucking week's cloud systems, ticking through 8am, 9am, 10am ... argh!

But back on topic, I must confess to quite a strong dislike for tv news. I can't stand the repetition.

Presenter 1: "Our main headline today: the pope is ill."
Presenter 2: "That's right Jim, the Vatican has today released a statement that the pope has been in hospital overnight with a chest infection."
Presenter 1: "Now here's more from our correspondent in Rome. Good morning Jill."
Reporter out front of a hospital in Rome: "Good morning Jim, Yes as you've already heard the Pope has spent the evening in this hospital here with a chest infection. The Vatican has said that he expects to make a full recovery."

*cue shots of a random hospital window in Rome.*

Reporter: "Now it's back to you in the studio."
Presenter 1: "Thanks Jill. Now here's Heather with the rest of today's headlines."
Presenter 3: "Thanks Jim. Good morning to you at home. The Vatican has today released a statement ..."

*Loomis tries to gouge his eyes out with a sharp corner of toast.*

I have however recently got into the habit of watching ten minutes of BBC breakfast while I eat my brekkie. Mostly for something to stare at while I try to rouse my brain and also to get the weather. Plus they have a little Scottish news segment from 7.55 to 8.00, which is handy.

I never got into news at all until the internet. Now I can flick through the Guardian and BBC sites and get the main stories in a few seconds, and then read actual articles about the stories I'm interested in. That way I don't have to sit through half an hour of stories about granny murders and random politicians mouthing the same random stuff about the NHS or whatever. I find it very difficult not to sink into a state of apathy when watching that, because it’s the same day after day.
 
 
Nobody's girl
08:27 / 19.07.05
Hm, well, generally I start the day with BBC news online. I like the format and if I want to know more will generally trawl the web for more depth. If I'm on a schedule in the mornings then I have been known to listen to the Today show on radio 4 which I find very informative, though recently I have had the luxury of avoiding mornings, though with the impending arrival of the baby this blissful state of affairs wont continue for much longer, I'm sure!.

If there's news I'm particularly interested in then I'll watch channel 4 news in the evening, if I'm REALLY interested then I'll also check out Newsnight, though since the election I am suffering a little bit of news fatigue.

I do enjoy the illusion of democracy that Question Time creates, I usually end up shouting at the panelists on the TV- great fun. I was recently in the Edinburgh audience, though as the friend I came with had her question picked I waited to comment on that issue and they ran out of time. Pah!

When I feel the need for some Scottish news (rare) then I have little choice but to tune into the BBC's Reporting Scotland, though frankly the standard is very poor. The gratuitous, sensationalist coverage of the Jodi Jones murder trial really pissed me off, so much so that I ended up writing a complaint in about it. I also hate the way that Reporting Scotland is often half news, half sport. If I want to read the Daily Record, I'll buy it thanks! Unfortunately the only alternative to Reporting Scotland for Scottish news is the ITV equivalent which is actually worse. Maddening.

Lastly, every now and again, I will listen to the world service as I'm nodding off. Each time I listen to it I think, "this is great, I really ought to tune in more often" and then fall asleep and forget all about it until the next time.
 
 
sleazenation
08:39 / 19.07.05
Smoothly - no you didn't imagine it - I spotted it too.

Last night's Newsnight (specially extended) seemed something of a triumphalist look-how-great-we-are editions as they celibrated how they first tracked down the Afghan warlord who had been convicted of torture earlier that day and broadcast Moqtada Al Sadr's first interview with a Western news organization.

On the weather - if all you want to know is do you need a coat then you should probably just take one with you out of habit - chances are you'll need it roughly 3/4 of the time...
 
 
Smoothly
09:37 / 19.07.05
It was a bit of a showcase edition, wasn’t it. Which is what made Mair’s Colin Baker moment even more peculiar.

One last thing about the weather: This morning I was told that there was a 50% chance of rain. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but another way of saying that is that they have *no idea whether it will rain or not*. Not a clue. It might do, but equally it might not. Who knows. We’re not making a prediction either way.
I ask you; what is the fucking point?
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
12:32 / 23.07.05
My default channel on the telly is News 24, however I hate how cluttered it is. Rather than spend money on trying to make the graphics look more whizzy, I'd cut down on somethings:

Sports report. Fair enough on the weekend when there's not much happening, but twice an hour every hour? Fuck off! Weather every half an hour? Unnecessary, except perhaps in the morning when you're planning your day. Basically I want the news to work in an hourly rather than quarter-hour way, meaning that when interviews get interesting the reporter doesn't interupt and say "Well we have to leave it there as Damien is going to tell us all again about the Sloth Racing from Chepstow".

Channel 4 News, good when I watch it, but I mostly forget. A prime example of Channel 4 living up to it's remit, rather than the FriendsBigBrotherWillandGrace rolling hell that it is the rest of the time.

Newsnight, though I only tend to watch the first half then lose interest. It's work on the recent London bombings and the related issues has been fairly good, but Government has got the measure of it now, and just fields some smug insufferable arse like John Reid or Hazel Blears who seem genuinely incapable of answering a question at all. It's also the only BBC program that gives the Lib Dems airtime outside of Election time in the form of Menzies Campbell on issues relating to the Iraq War.
 
 
Not Here Still
12:19 / 27.07.05
OPB sleazenation:

Further indictment of my news obsession:

After watching a repeat of Have I got News for you the continuity announcer points out that coming up next is a specially extended Newsnight featuring the first Western interview with Iraqi cleric Moqtadr Al Sadr and I literally went ‘oooooooowith active interest…


You think that's bad? Since I moved into a house with Sky, I've been watching al-Jazeera for their news coverage sometimes... despite the fact I can't speak Arabic. Someone also came downstairs late one night, and found me passed out on the sofa after having come in and picked out one of those channels you do late at night... er, BBC Parliament

My usual news day?

Wake up, radio four on Longwave on as I doon't get FM. Today programme while I get up.

I drive a long way to work, so Today programme during drive too (and Yesterday in Parliament when that's on, due to longwave)

Regional paper (Daily Post) and sometimes the Guardian or Mirror, though the latter is rarer since Piers Morgan went. Read in work; also look at BBC News and Google News as time allows, plus the NME website (though I rarely buy the NME itself).

PM (ie, the evening news on Radio 4) on the way home; BBC news at six if in in time, bits of Channel 4 news. Avoid ITV national news like the plague for the same reason I avoid the Daily Mail - sensationalist bollocks.

Flick round the news channels such as Sky, CNN etc, watch a little Fox just to remind me how bad a news channel it is (unlike ITV it has less pretence at being unbiased, despite its "fair and balanced" claim).

Don't often watch Newsnight but will do; then bed, maybe late night news at 11 or 12 on Radio 4, sleep, repeat...

I think I rate PM very highly out of all the above, mainly because of Mair. He has a clever style, is witty and unafraid to take the piss. (Possibly where the Newsnight thing came from, though didn't see it)
He's also a well-informed journalist who teases info out through politeness, and often gets better results than the brasher Paxman or Humphrys.

In work,
 
 
sleazenation
21:20 / 27.07.05
Really enjoying the segment on the protocol for naming countries on tonight's Newsnight; educating the audience in relevant, topical and fun way...
 
 
Planet B
21:26 / 27.07.05
I am in America, a veritable wasteland of television news. The reaction I have to watching television news gives me hives, so I avoid it as much as possible.

Agreed. About the only news I watch is BBC America, Democracy Now and The Daily Show. The rest of the mainstream offerings are rubbish, especially local newscasts. But, at least there's the Newsbreaks to liven things up in that regard.
 
 
Olulabelle
21:55 / 27.07.05
Sleaze you are a true newshound. That is so much news!

I listen to the Today programme on Radio 4 everyday for an hour because that's how long it takes me to get to work. I love it, they don't rush people through interviews and they ask difficult questions. I hope I keep the habit when I stop working (as of tomorrow). I also listen to PM on the way home and sometimes a bit of the 6 o'clock news. For the last year most of my news has been radio led and I really enjoy it.

I watch the early evening BBC news and then of course Points West because it's sweet and local.

I don't watch the main evening news because I'm usually doin something else, but if I'm at the lovely man's house I quite often watch News 24, and would choose to watch it over random channel surfing.

I also like to watch Newsnight, but I don't make a date to do it.
 
 
Bed Head
05:03 / 28.07.05
I think I rate PM very highly out of all the above, mainly because of Mair. He has a clever style, is witty and unafraid to take the piss...He's also a well-informed journalist who teases info out through politeness, and often gets better results than the brasher Paxman or Humphrys.

Hm, I rather prefer the World At One to either PM or Today, even though it’s shorter these days and they don’t usually seem to get access to the heavyweight interviewees that the other two do, which counts against it. But I really like Nick Clarke. I absolutely love his voice. But more, he comes across as kinda like the radio4 equivalent of Jon Snow, ie principled, left-leaning chap, the type who’d happily spend decades hanging around the Westminster bubble because he digs the whole scene, because he's into the details, rather than a big ‘character’ like Eddie Mair. Mair seems to consciously model himself after Paxman, if you ask me. He’s still rather genteel and radiofourish compared to Paxo, but he wears his irreverence as style, and I do sometimes wish he wouldn’t. It gets in the way. Eddie Mair interviews can be a bit ‘Famous, Award-Winning Journalist Eddie Mair versus (whoever)’, like a performance, whereas Clarke is quieter, but seems able to be endlessly insistent on the principles, rather than the characters, despite having less airtime for his interviews. If that makes any sense. I'm desperately trying to recall examples to illustrate any of this, and completely failing. But yay Nick Clarke, anyway, because he's rather stranded in a shorter news programme in the middle of the day, and he doesn't deserve to be.

When John Humphreys retires, I’d rather see Nick Clarke taking over the Today programme than Eddie Mair, anyway. I fear for the future if we get stuck with a Mair-helmed Today. And, yes, okay, I want to wake up to the sound of Nick Clarke's voice.

heh. I listen to all three, anyway. And I actually look forward to Westminster Hour on Sunday night.


TV, when I get to see it, I’m firmly on the side of Channel 4 news rather than Newsnight. Aside from the rather excellent newsy bits, C4 has the trump card that is Liam Halligan, economics correspondent:



Owner of the very finest head of hair on any television programme, ever. That’s important, too.
 
 
Bed Head
05:15 / 28.07.05
More: I do like how all the Radio4 programmes have distinct flavours. Same station, but different teams working on each programme, and the people who’ve posted here have their own particular favourites. My love for Westminster Hour might be a Rawnsley thing, now I come to think of it. I might feel differently if I had to listen to him all week long, but an hour on Sunday night makes his in-depth, well-connected parliamentary stuff seems novel and different and a bit oooh, why isn’t more news like this?. Which works every time for me.

No-one digs The World Tonight/Robin Lustig/Clare Boulderson combo, though? 10PM weekdays on Radio 4? I wonder if they’re getting anything wrong, or if it’s just an awkward time for lithers to be gathered around their radiograms.
 
 
sleazenation
08:20 / 28.07.05
As far as Sunday political stuff goes, I STILL miss Fi Glover and Charlie Wheelan bickering on Sunday Service on BBC Radio FIVE LIVE...
 
 
Bed Head
08:55 / 28.07.05
Does Broadcasting House not work for you, sleaze? Don’t you fancy Fi on Four, or is there just not enough of it?
 
 
sleazenation
09:17 / 28.07.05
There is never enough Fi Glover, Broadcasting House is good (a recent discovery for me, and Tom even 'appeared' on a segment for them), but I miss the repartee between her and Wheelan.

Which, I think, brings us on nicely to the subject of female news presenters and journalists; who are your favourites and who would you like to see move on to bigger and better things.

On economics I really rate the cool intellect of Newsnight's Stephanie Flanders (daughter of one half of the 50's musical combo, Flanders and Swan) especially over the patronizing tones of Julia Cesar on BBCnews24 (although I must admit she has a great name).

I also rate Tristana Moore, Orla Geurin, Kirsty Wark, Elinor Goodman and Martha Kearney (Channel 4's Sarah Smith wins a mention for sharing a name with the doctor who character of the same name who was also a reporter...)
 
 
_Boboss
09:39 / 28.07.05
i'm looking forward to what marr will do with frost's show. frost was a perfect example of telly knowing it's slot. genteel, sedate discussion of the week behind and ahead's events with the gret and the good who all remember frost from when he was like a comedian type so are keen to sit and jaw. he'd royally skewer them quite often - usually the most newsworthy thing to happen aon a sunday was frost getting an unguarded quote from a minister. when he asked ruth kelly about opus dei, and the look on her face, and her reply 'i receive spiritual support from them' - all priceless telly, worth geting up on sunday for.

marr doesn't have the immediate stateliness that frost would use to hook the baddies in with, looks more like a standard whip-thin journo, but he's dry, cheerfully cynical (unlike humf&paxos the other george foreman grillers) and knows his shit, and i think he could be very good once he's settled in to the armchair.
 
 
sleazenation
10:10 / 28.07.05
I dunno, I never had much time Breakfast with Frost, maybe because it was on Sunday Mornings, maybe because I always felt him to be too soft on his guests... maybe I just didn't watch it enough...

I'd love to talk a bit about Private Eye, but this probably isn't the forum, although I'm not sure what would be the right one...
 
 
Not Here Still
12:26 / 29.07.05
Bed Head:

He’s still rather genteel and radiofourish compared to Paxo, but he wears his irreverence as style, and I do sometimes wish he wouldn’t. It gets in the way. Eddie Mair interviews can be a bit ‘Famous, Award-Winning Journalist Eddie Mair versus (whoever)’, like a performance, whereas Clarke is quieter, but seems able to be endlessly insistent on the principles, rather than the characters, despite having less airtime for his interviews. If that makes any sense.

I quite like the performanc aspect in one way - that Mair seems aware of doing something more than continually plugging away at the 'why is this lying bastard lying to me' style. I also like his asides. But I know what you mean, sometimes, too.

Don't hear much Nick Clarke but I've liked what I heard...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
12:41 / 29.07.05
I have to agree with Sleaze's upping of Stephanie Flanders and Martha Kierney, Stephanie always has that little gleam in her eye. However, ever since Jan Ravens on Dead Ringers did Sophie Rayworth as an over-eager head girl I've always thought of the BBC News office as full of public schoolgirls, whilst the boys are on the other side of the room talking about cars and getting lagered up.

Sorry, this is really going off topic and into my own fantasies now isn't it?

Actually, the BBC seems to have more women doing the news but concentrating the men in the 'key areas', chief political correspondant, David Frost's replacement, John Simpson who doesn't actually have a proper job so they invented a post for him...
 
 
Bed Head
12:46 / 29.07.05
Mair seems aware of doing something more than continually plugging away at the 'why is this lying bastard lying to me' style. I also like his asides. But I know what you mean, sometimes, too.

Don't hear much Nick Clarke but I've liked what I heard...


I don’t really hate Eddie Mair that much, when it comes down to it. When I was posting, I remembered he’d trailed PM particularly badly the previous afternoon, is all. But really, I was just running him down to make Nick Clarke sound better. I’ve been mulling over whether I could get away with using the same trick to make up’n coming Anita Anand sound like a total 100% supergoddess compared to Fi Glover, who I’m not finding as completely ace as I used to. They both do very similar chat/banter-type shows about newsy items and topical ishoos, but Fi Glover often sounds very scripted, and Anita Anand totally doesn’t. I’d really like to hear her given a go on Broadcasting House the next time Fi Glover goes on holiday; at the moment she’s stuck out on 5Live, late night, bloody mediumwave, which is no way to listen to the radio.
 
 
Not Here Still
13:22 / 29.07.05
Sorry, this is really going off topic and into my own fantasies now isn't it?

Kind of feared that would happen as soon as the 'let's discuss female presenters' angle came up, myself. At least no-one's expressed a liking for twinkletoes Kaplinsky yet...
 
 
sleazenation
11:19 / 30.07.05
Dude - news presenters of my fantasies is a whole other list... and probably extends to Jan Ravens...

... And I'm not sure there is much of a gendered glass ceiling for certain jobs - Martha Kearney is Newsnight's political editor afterall and Elinor Goodman is Channel 4 News' Political Editor - yes neaither of them got the job to succeed Andy Marr as the BBC's chief political correspondent but I honestly beilieve that Nick Robinson wasan exceptional candidate for that role - he was one of the only journalists producing truly incisive reporting on the General Election, particularly his interogation of Blair on issues of comparing economic policy with the Tories to unjustifiably slanted degree...
 
  
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