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Planetary 23 (w/spoilers)

 
 
This Sunday
02:48 / 01.07.05
Just read this.
Okeh, I didn't see this origin - which is, to be fair, somewhat generic in the sense that it could have been entirely predictable. The age thing with Chase vs Drummer interests me. I hadn't noticed before, but Snow and Jakita age incredibly slowly, so you can't judge time by their physicality, much. I mean, Snow's haircut implied the era more than anything, during the Holmes/Dracula/Open Conspiracy issue.
As usual, more questons arise than are answered, though the idea that Snow's purpose is the big cosmic scheme is to collect/save/preserve solidifies a lot of tangential material in the series and makes the last couple issues of Elijah more reasonable.
I don't buy into the 'Ellis lost track of the story' or that he intends to continue the series indefinitely, milking it for all the money he can. This series works much better on rereads than 'Transmet' did, certainly. The plan and pace pan out.
So...
Was 'Planet Fiction' a rescue mission, then? I think so.
What's Dowling smell like, I wonder?
Where'd our li'l Drummer-boy get his sticks from, then? You'd think nobody'd be around or nice enough to gift them.
Is it me, or does every issue of Planetary end with a totally gleeful moment?
Is there going to be any real use or thematic point to Stone or Brass by the end of this?
 
 
ciarconn
12:29 / 01.07.05
At a first read, it felt weak, flat.
But there are some tasty bits left around.
a part of the Drummer´s brain is in informational space... it´s virtual.
the Drummer knows everything. Or so he says.
so... the Drummer doesn´t just talk with machines... he is a kind of gestalt with information
I do not even want to talk about the potential a being like this would have
So Dowling wants to control him, and he is such a badass that he terminates his extended family just to have the only one colectable.
And Snow has worked with Stone in a very close manner. (loved the SHIELD reference)
The flower at the end means something I can not fathom, but it is the repeatingm factalic representation of the snowflake
 
 
This Sunday
13:02 / 01.07.05
Leather's not-grandaddy saw the flower while chemically motivated to a higher plane, right? And, so, Snow. So if they experience this super-information-high plan of all things as the flower, maybe The Drummer, with his mega-intuitive info powers can look at a flower and see the hyper-informational-map-of-all-things - which is to say, the snowflake?
Maybe somebody on the creative side just got tired of the snowflake motif, and moved it over to flowers with loads of petals?
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:02 / 01.07.05
I took the flower image as meaning that snow intends (via timetravel whatever) to save the currently dead Ambrose Chase. To achieve this he may well need the 4's technology.
 
 
Mr Tricks
20:04 / 01.07.05
oh and.. sort of appropiate that someone with "cold" powers would be destines to save/preserve stuff.

. . . refrigerator man . . .
 
 
Triplets
20:27 / 01.07.05
Elijah Snowflake
 
 
louisemichel
07:39 / 02.07.05
"worst rescue ever."
great line. great page. great issue.
 
 
admiral sausage
19:35 / 03.07.05
Was actually a bit repulsed by the exploding boys head sequence, but did enjoy Snow freezing the guards piss right up into his body, also intrigued by what Dowling smells of. I know that Ellis isnt that popular around here, but Planetary really is one of my favourites, usually after each issue comes out I reread the whole series.

So, questions answered, Drummers origin (nice to know, but not that important to the whole scheme of things... or is it ?), Snows jibe about his hair, Ambrose Chase is alive (?)

Questions raised ? how is Snow going to save Ambrose Chase (or is he at all) ? Is Snow keeping William Leather away from the rest of the team to protect them, or doing it so he has free reign to torture Leather for killing someone important to him ?
 
 
Jack Denfeld
20:46 / 03.07.05
What was Drummer's origin? Can someone spoil it for me?
 
 
Aertho
20:58 / 03.07.05
He's an angel.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
21:02 / 03.07.05
He's an angel from Heaven?
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:32 / 03.07.05
No, Vermont.

Seeing John Stone again made this for me - he's still one of my favourites from the whole series.
 
 
admiral sausage
21:32 / 03.07.05
Half of the Drummers brain exists in some informational dimension (cyberspace or somthing) The Four killed all of his family and had him working for them as a child creating the internet. He was rescued by Snow, Jakita and Ambrose.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
22:18 / 03.07.05
I have this sneaking suspicion that Dowling smells like that really foul rubberized plastic that they used to make toys in the late 80s to early 90s.

Notable that Dowling has a very distinctive smell, while Elijah is "absent in the olfactory landscape," as we saw in his meeting with Doc Brass. Interesting inversion / parallel there.

Intrigued by the idea that this might all be to save Ambrose somehow. And we never did see what became of the Fictional Man from Planet Fiction; he was still at large.

Snow preserves, while Sparks sparked changed (and had to change herself, reincarnating while the other century babies have continued to live well past).

Haven't heard from Anna Hark in a while.
 
 
Aertho
01:05 / 04.07.05
So NOBODY thinks Drums is an angel?

F that S.

I know it was months ago, dearies, but we just met a trio of angels that ate information, and piloted an informational drive spaceship. Maybe he's just on a science-kick, and information is information is INFORMATION, but I'm thinking there's something else there.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:18 / 04.07.05
Oh, duh, the "Not Silver Surfers." Possibly - there's something about him while he has his head shaved - but I'm not sure the reasoning behind him being one of them; could this be like Gaiman's Death incarnating and having a retroactive life and history? Seems a trifle complicated.
 
 
Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown
07:28 / 05.07.05
Jenny is the defense mechanism of a given century. She embodies that century. When its over, she dies. Now, the question there is whether she died pushing her power to kill God, or whether she just died becuase of the date. I think that the nature of the world may resolve the final, fatal battle for a Century Spirit around a given event at the close of that century.

The other century babies seem to embody some basic sort of concept or archetype, but Jenny was unique in that she had a specific purpose to fulfill.

I will not bring up the latest Authority crap and its "Garden of Ancestral Jennies". That was just evil.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:39 / 05.07.05
In what sense 'evil'? I thought the explanation given as to why it exists, why it looks like the Doctors' Garden, and why we've never seen it before was elegant enough.
 
 
Captain Zoom
23:33 / 06.07.05
I figured that Snow was going to run Brass' snowflake computer and grab an Ambrose from one of those rotations just before he dies.

Or that the rescue would involve Snow knowing he's in a fictional reality raising himself to real reality to send a rescue mission into the earlier issues of Planetary to rescue the living Ambrose.

(But then I was a bit high when I read the issue.)
 
  
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