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Batman comic recommendations?

 
  

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The Falcon
13:49 / 19.06.05
Penguin story? The Clayface one is in the 'Across the Universe' DC book of Alan's work on the company's characters (not inc. Killing Joke, Whatever Happened...? and Swamp Thing, but otherwise - I'd thought - comprehensive.)
 
 
Benny the Ball
17:17 / 19.06.05
Maybe the Penguin story wasn't Moore, but it was in the same annual - about the Penguin falling in love with some socialite old lady if I remember correctly?
 
 
The Falcon
19:30 / 19.06.05
Yeah, actually, looking at my GN, which contains the cover to the annual, I see it was by Collins/Breyfogle.

Sorted.
 
 
skolld
17:35 / 21.06.05
after that critique of 'Year Two' i decided to go back and read it again (i had read it when it first came out, and i was still enamored of McFarlane)
and ya know, it really wasn't as good as i remembered. I still didn't think it was horrible, but definitely not the first thing i'd buy.
I also ran across a copy of a Batman/Judge Dredd crossover, what did you guys think about that one?
 
 
Withiel: DALI'S ROTTWEILER
20:13 / 21.06.05
I've read the trade to the Batman/Judge Dredd crossover because of the art in the first issue by the chap I can't remember the name of what painted SlaĆ­ne. The first issue is fun because of the art, especially the frame (reproduced on the back of the trade) where Batman and Dredd look as if they're about to kiss passionately and walk off into a glorious sunset of vigilante-love. The second one's like one of those large battles small children have with action figures, and the third one's so ugly and bad that I've blocked it from my memory. It was something to do with the Joker becoming a Dark Judge, and had really really horrible plasticy-airbrush art.
/shudders.
Get the first issue if you can, because some of it (especially the rendering of Judge Anderson's profile in on e frame) is really nice. Avoid the others like the crotch-rot.
 
 
matthew.
21:38 / 21.06.05
Possible threadrot here, but I have a question. Is it possible that I'm the only one who doesn't read current Batman because of this pathetic Bat-family?

The Bat-family is gigantic now. There's Robin, Nightwing, Oracle, Huntress, Bat-hound, Batgirl, blah blah blah.

Whatever happened to sole vigilante who struck fear in the hearts of men? Now he's some old guy pretending to be a general (thanks FM for that characterization for the rest of fucking time).

It's time for Batman to return. I'm talking the Dark Knight. The Detective. The Batman.

I want a Batman that actually uses detective skills; not jumps from roof to roof punching garishly costumed "super"-villains and badly written mafioso types. I want Batman to work alone. Like he started. I want him to solve mysteries and avenge his parents' death.

I don't want Batman hanging around with a gigantic army of children who each have a gigantic continuity behind him. It's impossible to read Batman anymore because I can't remember all of it.

So, to DC, I say this: restart Batman's continuity or give me more flashback stuff. I hate the Bat-Family. Give me the baddest mother of all: The Batman.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:32 / 23.06.05
Or do they do it because they actually have come to the conclusion themselves that Dixon's politics and comics are shitty?

His politics mean nothing to me, since Beau Smith has the same politics, and his stories are fun and well written...his writing is so formula driven that he gave an interview to a writer's mag outside of comics where he claimed to have a standard comic story template where he could plug in plot elements and it would break the action down by page...to the point of how every one of his stories has a specific number of fight scene pages, a single page of advancing the next plot device, etc...

As for Good Batman Lurve, I'd recommend the first Archive, since DC has published it at $20, or the "Batman Chronicles" which reprinted the first batch of stories in a paperback and may reprint them chronologically onward if sales are good enough. I also highly recommend the SECOND Neal Adams collection, as the first is filled with silly Bob Haney stories that are nearly impossible to read all the way through, but the second is filled with Denny O'Neal's stuff. I also really recommend any of the "Batman Adventures" comics, especially "Mad Love" which was the first Harley Quinn story in comics.

I second the Greg Rucka recommendation as well. Up until the Big Silly Crossover, his stories were some of the best Batman series comics since the early 80's and Don Newton was saving scripts by mediocre writers. Too bad there's not a good collection of Newton's stuff available...him and Aparo are two of my favorite Batman artists.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
07:38 / 19.08.06
Can I take it from this that no-one liked Hush? Other than the shameless crowbarring in of yet another old friend of Bruce Wayne that has never been mentioned before I thought this was a fun story, each chapter ramping things up, Batman isn't played for a chump, he's allowed to be clever it's just that he's playing against someone who might just be smarter than him. And Jim Lee's artwork is better than I've seen in a long time. So is Harvey Dent really Harvey again, or has he reverted to Two-Face yet?
 
 
Bubblegum Death
07:59 / 19.08.06
He became Two-Face again near the end of James Robinson's run. I don't remember how or why.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
08:05 / 19.08.06
I liked "Hush" a lot, though I remember my enthusiasm tailing towards the final episodes. I realise I'm very much in a minority here, but I thought the art was dynamic and detailed, with lots to relish; that it worked as a mystery story and a pleasurable tour around the Batman cast; and that this was a resourceful-investigator Batman I could dig.
 
 
Sniv
10:16 / 19.08.06
I really enjoyed Hush when it was coming out. As mentioned, the art was very good and the story, while a bit showy and not incredibly intellectual was still twisty fun and each month I had no idea what was going to happen in the next issue, which can only be a good thing.

Yes, Loeb's writing is a tad patronising and sparse, but if you're looking for a balls-to-the-wall, action packed couple of hours of fun, you could go far worse than this.

I also have a big soft spot for Chuck Dixon. I know absolutely fuck-all about his politics, but his first 60 issues of all his bat-titles were great. I consider his post-Knightfall run on Detective comics with Nolan and Hanna to be one of the definitive runs on Batman (right up until the end of Legacy, or #700), it has a sense of fun and family that was never again matched (until the last issue of Batman, maybe...). Great Batman and Robin stories, which is something that's all too rare these days.

Dison also did a few great "Year one" stories around the start of the decade too. If you read in the right order, you get a nice history of the first few years of the Bat-family. Start with a few non-Dixon books: Year One (obviously), Year Three or Legends of the Dark Knight #100 (Y3 is out of cntinuity now, but they're essentially the same story), then The Batman Chronicles: The Gauntlet, which is a great story of Dick Grayson's first night out as Robin in Gotham by himself. Now, start with the Dixon. Robin: Year One follows on nicely from The Gauntlet and is a charming little story in its own right. Follow this up with Dixon and Beatty's Batgirl: Year One which features some lovely artwork by Marcos Martin and go right into Nightwing: Year One to finish it up.

Yes, this is incredibly geeky, but if you have the time and money, it's a great read and is a really consistant and colourful look at the past of the Bat-family. Highly recommended.
 
 
DavidXBrunt
17:47 / 20.08.06
Pedants Revolt - The third Batman vs Judge Dredd story wasn't about the Joker at all, that was the Riddler story. The first one had Bisley art with Death, Mean Machine, and the Scarecrow. The second had The Ventriloquist and was drawn by Cam Kennedy. Third was the Riddler and had Carl Critchlow art. Fourth was the Joker story you mentioned.

Aaaaanyway, if you can get hold of the original Batman - Greatest Story Ever Told then you're well advised to. Some belting stories, a nice overview of 50 years, and lots of great artists.
 
 
Axolotl
18:22 / 24.08.06
Has any one been reading Matt Wagner's recent Batman mini-series? There's Batman & the Monster-Men which has just been collected into TPB and the first issue of Batman and the Mad Monks was out this week.
They're set just after Year 1 with a younger Batman just starting off and they're really good. Matt Wagner's art is as ever excellent with a really nice solidness (solidity?) to it which I love.
Fans of Morrison's hairy chested love-god will be glad to note that Bruce as a playboy is a theme that runs through the books.
 
 
grant
18:33 / 24.08.06
Is it playing the same games as Wagner's Sandman Mystery Theatre? I thought those were cracking reads. Maybe even rollicking.
 
 
John Brown
23:56 / 01.09.06
I was just stopping in to recommend the relatively recent TPB of Batman and the Monster Men.

I really enjoyed Wagner's depiction of Batman in the Grendel cross-over and Faces and was glad to see him get another opportunity to take a turn with the character.
 
  

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