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Mystery Gypt
16:07 / 15.10.01
mercury rev have a new video jam packed with occult symbolism -- a tree of life, a hawk headed horus, etc. i was wondering if any symbol-experted magic user could help out with some annotations on it.

the video is at http://www.mercuryrev.com

click on the "vibrations" button/word in the menu at the bottom of the second
screen...

then you'll be able to view the Night and Fog video...
 
 
Mystery Gypt
17:47 / 19.10.01
c'mon guys -- you collective mind of incredible symbolic recall -- hook me up with some interpretations. it's fun!
 
 
Kobol Strom
18:12 / 19.10.01
Its definately The tree of life.I noticed one of them is dressed up like one of The Templar Knights,and the reference to vampires in the lyrics and vampire women in the video,suggests a literal interpretation of the poular myth that Vampire stories were brought out of Eastern Europe and into Britain by The Templars on their journeys from Jerusalem.In a book called,'From the ashes of the fallen angels',by Andrew Collins,he argues that the origin of the vampire stories was popular amongst Templars because of the connection to Grail Lore.The cup of eternal youth being the opposite of The power of the blood for eternal life.Collins goes on to talk about the idea that The Templars were interested in finding natural examples of 'duality'.In the video there are spiders on magnifying glasses that are set up seemingly like a sundial,but I think its just to fit with the lyrics. I think a lot of the imagery isn't so much occult as a derivation of these eastern european 'superstitions'.I'll see if I can dig up more on the Vampire/Templar thing.
 
 
Kobol Strom
19:26 / 19.10.01
Starts off symbolically breaking the ties of a relationship because of the revelation of the proverbial snake in the grass.A truth was found out,perhaps an imposter.They have ended a relationship.The ties are cut,represented by scissors.The chains that bound him to this person are lying limp on the ground could signify a ritual cleansing ceremony of some kind.


I think they're trying to link the subject of the song to the grail romances.
'again and again,the protagonist - by intermarriage with this family,by his own lineage or both-became lord of the grail and everything connected with it.On this level,at least,we seemed to be dealing with something of a concrete historical character.One can become lord of a castle or a group of people.One can become heir to certain lands or even a heritage.But one cannot become lord or heir to an experience.

This is confirmed in the last shot,a zoom in on the part of the tree called 'Tiphereth'.
'Of the 'stages' of cabalistic initiation,one of the most important was the stage known as tifaret.In the tifaret experience the individual is said to pass beyond the world of form into the formless,or in contemporary terms,to 'transcend his ego.'Symbolically speaking this consists of a kind of sacrificial death.The death of the ego,of ones sense of individuality and the isolation such individuality enatils :and,of course,a rebirth or resurrection,into another dimension of all-encompassing utility and harmony.
For Medieval Cabalists initiation into tifaret was assocaited with certain specific symbols.These included,a hermit,or a guide,or a wise old man,a magestic king,a child,a sacrificed god.In time other symbols were added as well-a truncated pyramid,for example a cube and a rose cross.The relation of these symbols to the grail romances is sufficiently apparent.In every Grail narrative,there is a wise old hermit-a Perceval's or Parzival's uncle frequently -who acts as a spiritual guide.'
,from The Holy blood and The Holy grail',
by Baigent,Leigh & Lincoln


So the video is basically about a girl saying that -'there is no one alive who knows how I felt when I got dumped by this cold hearted bastard.'

And I'm not so sure about the vampire references any more,I think she just digs ceremonial magick and wearing black.Mmmmm.

[ 19-10-2001: Message edited by: kobol strom ]
 
 
Tragopan
19:35 / 19.10.01
can anybody recomand some good occult bands?
I'd like to build a colection....

T.
 
 
De Selby
01:49 / 20.10.01
is the only criteria, that the band be 'occult', or do you have a specific genre(s) in mind?
 
 
Mystery Gypt
07:31 / 20.10.01
i've always thought of tiphareth also of being the place of the Holy Guardian Angel, as well as Christ Crucified; if you put a nail through tiphareth you can rotate the entire tree around that center point and see a lot of interesting revearse correspondances between certain spheres. if i remember correctly, the number 21 (tiphareths number) can get you a long way towards interesting symbolic relaitonship between the sphere, the word for nail, and the death tarot card.
 
 
Tragopan
22:13 / 21.10.01
-is the only criteria, that the band be 'occult', or do you have a specific genre(s) in mind? -

All and everything.

What's your favourite bands?
Occult/Paganistic
I know there is a lot of gothic bands beeing inspired from diferent traditions.
I don't know the gendere very well yet, but would also be interested in other genders.
Are there other bands similar to Dead can dance and Mila mar? (I like them very much.) and what would you call that gender by the way?

Thanks

T.
 
  
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