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Help? Again? Please?

 
 
Lugue
01:17 / 15.06.05
Ooh, I might be the lurking type, but I am one open to the help of the Lith.
Which makes me, I'm sure, an utterly horrible human being and completely unworthy of even signing in, or some such...

...but, I'm in a bit of a rut, and as shy and void of potentially valuable content to share on this board, I'm actually rather enamored with the thing and have been for a while, and this'd seem the most logical place to place this.

So, basically, to put it simply and oh-so-dramatically, school sucks cuz I be like all teen and such and etc.!!! (or rather, is proving to be growingly unchallenging, dull, and unrewarding, on a number of levels), and pretty much the only person I have a truly proper bond with (besides the touchy feely thing; the one I can actually *talk* to about everything) is off to greener pastures, which makes this the best possible time to start reassessing a thing or other, I suppose.

Oh: I'm 16, on the 11th grade, studying in the general "Humanities" field (Languages, Human Sciences), and, as fucking stupid and arrogant as it sounds, can do stupidly well in school and do "brilliantly" as far as English goes, or so is hammered.

And not holding much hope for nearby schools, I'm actually keeping open the thought of trying to actually make it to London, mayhaps, or, to be perfectly honest, just about anywhere in Britain that doesn't turn out to be painfully isolated and is adequate education-wise. This either for the 12th grade (A-levels?) or Uni.

So, basically, little Portuguese pseudo-Quen is trying to ask Barbelith what it knows about chances for foreign students, mostly in the UK, and very hopefully, scholarships.

The British Council doesn't seem to have what was hoped (from talks with friends), as far as making my life ridiculously easy, and googling about hasn't gotten me far at all (absence of chances or weak web-fu; I know not), yet because of all the hopeful build-up over the last years here and there, I'm still crossing my fingers to see if I can get on easily.

Yes, tis selfish, yes, I do rant, yes, I know that most of this yells "UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS AFROBOY!", but bare me on just this one; I'm trying to check for the better routes, before checking the rather more down-to-earth efforts I'll be having to make, and even then, this remains more of a possibility than a certainly defined path.

So, asking you wonderful creatures for some help, I cease, and ask:

How does it all work, B.?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
02:03 / 15.06.05
These seems to be the two sites that you should take a look at Funding for International Students at HERO and The Council for International Education website.
 
 
Cat Chant
08:09 / 15.06.05
See also Erasmus, though I think that's only for exchange programmes (ie only one year in England, rather than the whole course). Individual universities might also have their own programmes - sometimes there are these mad scholarship funds with really specific requirements (like, say, if I died and left a bequest to De Montford University to fund a scholarship for a Portugese student called Quen), so it's worth, um, keeping researching, though I'm not sure where - someone from Erasmus might know, of course, or your school's Careers office (if it's any use).
 
 
Lugue
17:54 / 15.06.05
Thanks a lot to both for the tips, I'll get around to reading those first two sites in particular when I find the right headset (just 3 hours of sleep make a hazy, unfocused boy).

Deva, as far as Erasmus goes, from what I know, it'd seem to be a well-defined, timed exchange, which I'm not really looking for, though it's hard to tell the timespan I'd be spending anywhere anyway (yes, I'm doing with the broad again, but...).

I'll certainly try and check for the specific scholarships you mention, but it seems hard - specially taking in consideration the complete lack of support or counselling at school.

(Not so much there being no point in seeking help at school, as there being none provided.)

Will, I say, read, when I can, and again, with the thank you's.
 
 
Olulabelle
18:09 / 15.06.05
Quen, you could also try looking through educationUK.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
18:18 / 15.06.05
So, basically, to put it simply and oh-so-dramatically, school sucks cuz I be like all teen and such and etc.!!! (or rather, is proving to be growingly unchallenging, dull, and unrewarding, on a number of levels), and pretty much the only person I have a truly proper bond with (besides the touchy feely thing; the one I can actually *talk* to about everything) is off to greener pastures, which makes this the best possible time to start reassessing a thing or other, I suppose.

Oh: I'm 16, on the 11th grade, studying in the general "Humanities" field (Languages, Human Sciences), and, as fucking stupid and arrogant as it sounds, can do stupidly well in school and do "brilliantly" as far as English goes, or so is hammered.


Trust me you're not alone. I know this is going to sound patronising but bear with me: there's a scene in 'Wonderland Avenue' where JIm Morrison dumps a case loads of classic books on a desk before the (then) teenage narrator, and says that he won't speak to him again until he's read them all. Or course Mr Mojo Rising was an arrogant bastard, but I wish someone I admired had done that to me when I was sixteen; it would have saved me a lot of time later on in life and introduced me to some of the best "friends" anybody can have.

When things aren't going so well, I remind myself how it will all probably feel much different in a year's time looking back. i.e. think back a year to a similarly distressing major / minor problem. A lot can happen in a year, no?

BTW, I'm not a big Doors fan, nor am I saying you should follow the same path that Danny Sugerman walked, but look how quickly his life changed. Also, you do have the Interweb.....

"Shine on you crazy diamonds!"
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
18:27 / 15.06.05
Although saying all that, remember, as Morrissey sings: "There's more to life than books, you know. But not much more, not much more..."
 
 
Broomvondle
19:05 / 15.06.05
Yes, you would do well to take heed of Morrissey's words he is not, as is commonly assumed, an arrogant/self loathing middle aged singer/songwriter. He is, as I have recently discovered, an enlightened Buddha who compassionately stays on earth to show the alienated teenagers of the world the way to the cessation of suffering - all the solutions are cryptically encoded into his lyrics.

...and when you're laughing and dancing, and finally living, hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly.
 
 
Lugue
22:16 / 16.06.05
Lula, thanks for another link. I know it sounds bullshitty, but I'll have to wait a bit till I come round to properly checking 'em, though (and for the self-pitying explanatory side-note, I had what was, in total, a five-hour long English exam today and my mind isn't exactly in the most inspired of states, to go about choosing what to do).

And please, don't get Mozza (the fairest wank-buddy) into the thing, it's not like there's not enough of him in the pseudo-self-aware-yet-maybe-not-quite teen drama that is Just My Own, Dammit!™

Trust me you're not alone. I know this is going to sound patronising but bear with me: there's a scene in 'Wonderland Avenue' where JIm Morrison dumps a case loads of classic books on a desk before the (then) teenage narrator, and says that he won't speak to him again until he's read them all. Or course Mr Mojo Rising was an arrogant bastard, but I wish someone I admired had done that to me when I was sixteen; it would have saved me a lot of time later on in life and introduced me to some of the best "friends" anybody can have.

When things aren't going so well, I remind myself how it will all probably feel much different in a year's time looking back. i.e. think back a year to a similarly distressing major / minor problem. A lot can happen in a year, no?


Sorry. But. What?

The Interweb provides a distraction and not much of an actual solution, ahah, and, hum, books? I read.

There's not this whole "ooh my school's like the suxzor???!" thing going on. I mean, there is, but quite literally: incompetent teachers, badly thought out programmes, even irrelevant subjects (Computer Class? How old are we, for fuck's sake? Yes, obligatory. Yes, bollocking Word and Powerpoint classes. Ooh ta love! I was here all, like, Humanity - the name sounds so utterly dramatic when translated! Go us! - students don't fare well in Portugal, really, but now I know Excel formulae and how to create a fucking folder! Oh kiss me you shrieky paranoid midget yoooou! Rantoff).

So. If you're picturing a revolted student turning away from the scholarly as a way of saying that, y'know, it's all so empty (God knows it's what you've left in my mind), hum, well, no, not quite that dramatically teeny.

And for the useless update, I reckon, from most of the wordies around, that I'll keep the trip for the first year of college, as makes a bunch more sense than my sexy flights of fancy, I'll admit.

Might for now just change to some other school nearby. For a new number of subpar teachers and with some luck, even less interesting people!

...And heaven knows... I'll be miserable then...

Will again thank you all as it's about time I start setting down some sort of plan for the near (or not so near) future, or.

Well, there's a bit of a recurrent thing around here (as in, this town) where you're either a bit of a wanker (no, not the Mozza-type, the other, healthier one) or end up rather pointlessly wandering nearby. Frighteningly recurrent.

There's this sort of general incapability to do something. We're train stations away from the capital and yet there's this tendency to just drift along stupidly. *It's in the seabreeze*.

Hence the hesitation as to the "let time pass" thing. It has, for me and for the ones around me, and it hasn't turned out that nicely.

Hence me making with the plan-good-be! thing, hence me asking, hence me ranting, hence me, again, thanking you all for the info so far, hence me stopping the rantiness.
 
 
paranoidwriter waves hello
22:26 / 16.06.05
Apologies. : )
 
 
Lugue
22:41 / 16.06.05
Oh, no, no reason for that, I just... think you... kind of lost me there.
 
 
Cat Chant
16:39 / 17.06.05
I'll certainly try and check for the specific scholarships you mention, but it seems hard

Yeah... sorry I can't be more helpful. Have you tried the library? I got it into my head to do a PhD in the US once and I spent many days in the library - they had whole books listing the tuition rates and available scholarships to different institutions. I assume there's a similar thing for the UK.

I don't know anything about the educational situation in Portugal, but can I ask why you're thinking of coming to the UK? Does it have a good reputation? (I was just having a conversation with someone in the university I currently work at [not much longer, whoo!] about how French academics laugh at the shoddiness of British universities. So, depending on what you want to study, you might better find out about the relative status/quality of UK universities for your subject - unless your decision is more about the country/the language/etc...)

Incidentally, Quen, my understanding of what paranoidwriter was saying was simply that you should just ignore school (insofar as you can) and take refuge in books. But I don't know if that's right.
 
  
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