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Who's your favorite DC supervillain? Marvel? Which company has the best?

 
 
Jack Denfeld
18:21 / 14.06.05
Who is your favorite DC supervillian? Who is your favorite Marvel supervillian? Who has the better supervillians?
 
 
COBRAnomicon!
18:39 / 14.06.05
DC: The Joker, when done well. He's simultaneously funny and (reasonably) scary, and has a great visual design. His penchant for anarchy opens up a lot of story possibilities. And he enriches the Batman universe by providing a bad-crazy counterweight.

Marvel: Magneto. he was the first supervillain I ever loved, because he's got a believable (and powerful) motivation. And like the Joker with Batman, the way he complements Xavier adds a lot of texture to the X-mythos.

I wouldn't say either company has the best; they both have their greats and their Maximus Lobos.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
18:51 / 14.06.05
DC, I'm a huge fan of silver age (and current age?) Bizzaro. A lot of his silver age stuff makes me laugh out loud, which I hardly do when I read comics. I don't know if he's a good pick as supervillian though. Joker's cool because he's almost like Elseworld's supervillian. His insanity let's writers depict him anyway they feel like. Mafia gangster style Joker, silly goofy Joker, psycho beat the sidekick with a crowbar while laughing Joker.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
19:24 / 14.06.05
Doom, motherfuckers.
 
 
This Sunday
21:07 / 14.06.05
Marvel: Doom
'Cause he's Doom and all, Van Damme be damned. And Doom really is Richards. Yes.

Wildstorm: Whoever it is keeps doing things like screwing over the visceral bits in late-Authority (Vol. 1), resurrecting Gen 13 in not-particularly-good-at-all series by Claremont, and green-lit the Jenny Sparks mini - which had a few interesting bits, but still.
Greatest unseen villain lurking behind the scenes in the metaverse of our reality, or something.

DC: Darkseid.
Kirby's antilife-equation-seeking New God of Evil, Oppression, and allatgoodstuffsbabyyeah. He who's waiting to give us all our Severin's pay. The sitting in an easy chair reading not-Mein-Kampf, inspired Vader and Thanos, not to be confused with Doug Side, manic self-promoter and patient, potent, voracious bastard. Die for Darkseid!

Or...

DC: Ten Fingered Man. 'Cause you just know he's the kind of ass who'd keep sticking his eye-tipped fingers in your face at random moments, just to irritate and creep you out. 'Dude, getcher eyes outta m'face,' and all.

Wildstorm: Father. 'I kill ye with lecture!' Died in his one appearance, got his Nazi-lovin' creator shot and frozen, misquoted Nietzche all over the place, had half his face missing.

Marvel: Sublime. With one sweep of his mighty wordprocessor, Grant Morrison successfully killed the central conceit of the X-Men. And had Beak, essentially, claim to be pimping the evo-static godboy. Not that anybody believed him. And of course, in the end, Sublime seems to've won out anyway. See recent issues of Uncanny for example(s). The point of pushing the envelope should not be just to put everything back in the envelope at the end.
 
 
The Falcon
21:29 / 14.06.05
Yeah, I dunno how much I like supervillains.

Kid Miracleman, that's a good one. Batroc, because he's a stupid villain. Batman, Spider-Man and the Flash have the best rogues, but I don't like the Joker or Goblin much.
 
 
Benny the Ball
22:59 / 14.06.05
I love Darkseid, when done right he is just so powerful and terrible. My favourite Darkseid moment is from the Mignola drawn mini series which name escapes me, when Superman sees Darksied, calls his name and flies to attack, and the next panel shows Superman just flying back, having been swated away, Darksied barely carring.

From Marvel, probably Doom or Galactus, just because I loved Secret Wars so much.

Also, Maximan was pretty nasty.

I've always been more of a DC man than Marvel, so would go with them.
 
 
Juan_Arteaga
23:19 / 14.06.05
-- DC --

Don't laugh, but I really like Sportmaster. If I could, I would probably pitch a Sportmaster series for DC. There is something fascinating about a normal guy with a baseball bat going against demi-gods that sometimes wins. I even have an old issue where Sporty kidnaps the entire Justice League and a bunch of supervillain and makes them play baseball just to prove a point to his catsuit wearing wife.

--Marvel--

Not really sure. Never seen one I really, really liked.
 
 
Shrug
23:32 / 14.06.05
Emma Frost and/or the original Hellions.
They weren't necessarily villains. Obviously they were reactionary but I don't think that their position on it all (human/mutant relations in the MU) was any less valid than x-men's.
 
 
Fritz K Driftwood
23:38 / 14.06.05
DC-
Darkseid is cool, but Lex Luthor is the MAN! He is Doom with out the mask. I'm also a fan of Brainiac (the original, not his progeny). Also, glad that Black Adam has finally gotten it together.

Marvel-
The Red Skull. Obviously didn't get the memo about WWII. Actually, some of the Skull's underlings are pretty cool/bizarre/weird, like Mother Night, Crossbones & the wierdest one of all Armin Zola (the guy with a television in his stomach for his face and an antenna for a head).

MODOK! MODOK! MODOK! MODOK! MODOK! MODOK! MODOK! MODOK!
 
 
Krug
05:43 / 15.06.05
Ozymandias.

The Devil in Shade the Changing Man.

The Joker was great in Arkham Asylum and Killing Joke.
 
 
Evil Scientist
07:30 / 15.06.05
Venom, back as he was before all that Lethal Protector nonsense. A slobbering mass-murderer with entertaining lines like "Brains! Yum!". Favourite moment is when he has Spiderman unconcious in his claws and lets him go in order to save a baby because "We were innocent once."

He's just a big lug.

As for my DC villains. Lex Luthor's the definite top dog. No super-powers, just brains and a massive corporation. It's a toss-up between Morrison's version, and Millar's (in Red Son) as the best representation of his shiny-headed character.

Outside of Marvel/ DC, I always like Herr Star from Preacher. Sweary, shooty, maniac badguy with an increasing number of missing body parts.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:54 / 15.06.05
And he likes to be sodomised - hilarious! That's not what mah daddy taught me a real man does!
 
 
Triplets
08:46 / 15.06.05
Ra's al Ghul: He's calm, cool and collected. And he's lived for hundred of years. Moriarty to Batman's Holmes. He's got his own sanctum sanctorum and a fairly sympathetic cause that just happens to involve killing millions of people. Plus he loves his nemesis like an adopted son.

AND he has a pocketful of NINJAS. Ace!
 
 
Sax
09:09 / 15.06.05
Paste-Pot Pete and his nocturnal emissions.
 
 
Phex: Dorset Doom
09:18 / 15.06.05
Deathstroke 'The Terminator'
Who can name themselves 'The Terminator' and still have the entire DCU treat them as seriously as a case of terminal crotchrot? Homeboy Slade Wilson, that's who.
 
 
Axolotl
09:45 / 15.06.05
The Red Ghost. Result of Cold War era paranoia - check. Evil genius with control over his body's density - check. Army of superpowered monkeys - check. What's not to love?
 
 
This Sunday
13:32 / 15.06.05
Red Ghost: Crap hairstyle. Check. Not worth the time it took to put on costume. Check.
Revised, given the monkey-boost and all... could be great.
Anybody know if he ever got his brains back from the monkeys,though?
 
 
Warewullf
17:00 / 15.06.05
DC:
Darkseid. Just a hell of a lot of fun when written properly.


Marvel:
Thanos, all the way. When drawn by Ron Lim and written by Jim Starlin. Love this guy. He became God to please Death!
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
03:40 / 23.06.05
Darkseid is cool and all, but he'd be nothing without DeSaad. It's all about DeSaad...at least until Kirby killed him in one of the last issues of The New Gods. I also have a lot of love for Granny Goodness.

At Marvel? Sub-Mariner. He was never really a hero, and John Byrne making him allergic to air was just stupid. He was ALWAYS an egotistical prick, and was damn good at it.
 
 
penitentvandal
06:07 / 23.06.05
Am I the only guy who thinks Deathstroke was trying too hard, though? I mean, when your supervillain name is 'Deathstroke', you're not really giving us any new information by adding the phrase 'the Terminator.'

I don't know, maybe there are a whole bunch of guys called Deathstroke in the DCU, and Slade had to call himself what he did to distinguish himself from 'Deathstroke: the hairdresser' and 'Deathstroke: the bus driver' and 'Deathstroke: the collector of small antique pottery.'
 
 
Haus of Mystery
09:00 / 01.07.05
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...



The Gentleman Ghost

Ace Batman baddie.
The Joker. Psshhh...
 
 
Spaniel
10:41 / 01.07.05
You're all being absurd.



M.O.D.O.K's having a pee
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:57 / 01.07.05
ancient Zen koan

First there is a tree
Then there is no tree
then there is...
M.O.D.O.K!
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
19:04 / 04.07.05
DC: Lex Luthor. Heartless corporate bastard. The best thing John Byrne ever did was revamp him from lame mad scientist to evil CEO. It's also great that a plain human being gives the most powerful hero ever the most headaches. Honorable mention: Darkseid. He's one baaaaad mofo.

Marvel: I'll go with Magneto over Doom, because Luthor does everything Doom does, and does it better. You can be almost be sympathetic to Magneto at first glance, with his primitive us-or-them mentality. His views are seductive, as the current neoconservative administration in the US proves. they both operate with similar views. As a side note, is Magneto still a holocaust survivor, or has that been retconned because it would make him so old?
 
 
rabideyemovement
19:28 / 04.07.05
Yes, he still is a survivor of the holocaust, though that couldn't last much longer. I expect them to retcon his origin and Punisher's very soon.
 
 
Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo
23:01 / 04.07.05
DC: Lex Luthor. Heartless corporate bastard. The best thing John Byrne ever did was revamp him from lame mad scientist to evil CEO

Actually, that was Marv Wolfman's idea. Of course, I like the fact that the best thing John Byrne ever did was use one of Marv Wolfman's ideas.
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
14:41 / 05.07.05
That figures. Byrne really is useless, isn't he?
 
 
matthew.
00:08 / 06.07.05
Thanos, all the way. Does it get more hardcore than having The Infinity Gauntlet?

That being said, I dislike how every cool villain becomes a hero, like Thanos.

That being said, The Joker rules the roost in DC's world.
 
 
John Octave
01:26 / 06.07.05
Yes, [Magneto] still is a survivor of the holocaust, though that couldn't last much longer. I thought they took care of this by having some supervillian de-age him and then restore him "to the prime of life" or something. So it doesn't matter how old he chronologically is, because physically he's whatever he is.

Anyway. My favorite DC villain is the Riddler, when they play him right. He's a foppish intellectual with a green bowler hat who's out to prove that he's SO much cleverer than you. He makes a mockery out of Batman by giving him clues. "Ooh, the WORLD'S GREATEST DETECTIVE tracked me down. I wonder if it was because of the VERY OBVIOUS CLUES I gave him. Good job; maybe we can try this sometime where I don't give you hints, eh?" The Riddler can never really lose because he never really tries to win. Or at least, that's the way I think he ought to be; in comics his characterization's kind of all over the place.

Marvel? Doom and Magneto are the obvious favorites, but I've always had a soft spot for the Taskmaster for some reason. Neat skull-mask-and-hood thing going on, and the photographic reflexes thing is a good trick. He can use Captain America's shield, Daredevil's billy club, and Spider-Man's web-shooters etc. in combinations against his foe.

As for which company has the better villains, I think Marvel uses theirs better, but the sheer zaniness of DC's villains have more potential. I'm still sad that Geoff Johns killed the Rainbow Raider. If used properly, Rainbow Raider could beat any Green Lantern with a yellow weakness (do they have that anymore?) and possibly interfere with the intake of Superman's yellow solar radiation. He's total badass, and his real name was Roy G. Bivolo, so he had that going for him. Crying shame.
 
  
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