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Referenda, yes or no (a vote?)

 
 
Sjaak at the Shoe Shop
14:58 / 13.06.05
While referenda have been well established in some countries, the currently ongoing vote on the EU constitution is quite novel in its wide spread use. Apparently it is becoming a well accepted tool. However, are we sure that is a good idea?

A couple of objections that could be raised:

1) The recent EU votes show that referenda quickly get ‘polluted’. They quickly diverge into any direction where a stakeholder sees an opportunity to win votes (i.e. if you don’t like foreigners vote against EU constitution, if you are religious vote against IVF, etc);


2) The idea of a representative democracy is that the subject matter can be quite complex and the parliament is elected to get into the details of all pro’s and con’s. If this is abandoned the result can be paralyzing, i.e. the state budget in California;


3) Results are sensitive to the way questions are posed, in doubt people will say ‘no’ to whatever looks like change. A yes/no vote on a complex subject is inappropriate (i.e. if the voter has doubts on one component of the EU constitution should he reject it and hope it is improved?);


4) Referenda may lead to cowardly behavior in politicians, deferring difficult decisions to a popular vote. What is wrong with a politician saying ‘this is what I stand for and if you don’t like it vote for somebody else’? Cowardly may be too hard a word, but how far do they still feel accountable for any decision taken in this manner?

So let’s have our own referendum: what do you think?
 
 
sleazenation
16:11 / 13.06.05
What's the question?
 
 
electricinca
18:29 / 13.06.05
I'm slightly confused but I think the suggestion is we should hold a referendum on whether societies should use referenda as a tool for making political decisions.
 
 
lord henry strikes back
19:10 / 13.06.05
OK, so a question was not actually stated, but I like where Matanza is going with this. Matanza, give us a single, vote-on-able question, and let's see some responses. Of course we get to annotate our ballots, which should make for some interesting reading.
 
 
Sjaak at the Shoe Shop
06:49 / 14.06.05
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear enough, but what I meant to ask was how you feel about the usefulness of referenda, under what conditions they can be held or whether they should be held at all?
 
 
sleazenation
08:32 / 14.06.05
Actually, aside from pointing out that there wasn't a clearly stated question in the first post, my point was that in referenda much relies upon what the question actually is and how it is phrased.

Australia's most recent vote to retain the Queen as head of state ended in the majority voting for keeping the queen, but not, it seems because she is so universally popular in Australia but because the alternative presented in the question was less palatable than the status quo.

The devil is in the detail of the question, and phrasing it most adventageously to gain the result the government is looking for. Referenda are not necessarily any more democratic at all.
 
  
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